Don’t Celebrate When People You Disagree With Get Murdered

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Early Monday morning, 32-year-old Ryan Carson was stabbed to death at a bus stop in the Bedford-Stuyvesant neighborhood of Brooklyn. He and his girlfriend were on their way home from a wedding. She was forced to helplessly watch as a deeply disturbed stranger repeatedly plunged a knife into her partner’s chest.

You might think that the only possible response to this event would be some mix of sorrow and anger on behalf of Carson and his loved ones.

But you would be wrong. In view of many extremely online, spiritually unwell conservatives, Carson’s brutal death was a form of karmic justice. You see, the young man had advocated for safe injection sites after losing friends to opioid overdoses. And he dedicated his adult life to working on various left-wing causes, above all the promotion of recycling and environmentally friendly approaches to dealing with solid waste. And his girlfriend had advocated for police abolition. Therefore, Carson had reaped what he’d sowed. The far-right provocateur Mike Cernovich disseminated a surveillance video of Carson’s death, beneath the caption, “Hey bro just like chill out bro I’m on your side bro go attack the magats bro bro bro noooooo.” Other conservatives turned photos of Carson’s dead body into memes about the perils of wokeness.

Days earlier, the nihilist right greeted the murder of progressive Philadelphia journalist Josh Kruger with the same grotesque glee. Kruger overcame homelessness and drug addiction to become an employee of the city government, and then an activist and reporter. Kruger had argued that the prevalence of homicide in Philadelphia was dictated more by national trends than the conduct of local police. To some right-wing fanatics, voicing that opinion rendered Kruger worthy of death.

The moral obscenity and intellectual bankruptcy of this perspective may be too obvious to warrant elaboration. But on the off chance that there is someone out there who both (1) believes that Carson and Kruger died as a result of bad policies that they had imposed on their respective cities and, therefore, were responsible for their own deaths, and (2) is nevertheless amenable to reason, I’ll briefly explain why this point of view is sick and dumb.

For one thing, no set of criminal-justice policies could fully eliminate the existence of random homicides. So long as we live in a free society in which people are allowed to own sharp objects, stabbings will occur. Therefore, no individual homicide can prove anything in particular about what criminal-justice policy should be like. And even if this weren’t the case, as of this writing, there is no actual link between any progressive public policy and the killings of either Carson or Kruger.

In recent years, progressives in New York City successfully reduced the use of cash bail, an institution that effectively enables the wealthy to avoid imprisonment before trial while condemning the poor to incarceration before they’ve been found guilty of any crime. Many conservatives therefore suggested that Carson’s death was a result of cash-bail reform. But this claim has no factual basis. There is no public evidence that Carson’s killer would have been in jail but for the liberalization of New York’s cash-bail laws, which were partially reversed earlier this year.

Again, even if there were a demonstrable link between cash-bail reform and Carson’s death, this would not tell us whether ending cash bail is a worthwhile policy. Confiscating all privately owned assault weapons in the United States would reduce the lethality of some mass shootings. In the context of gun policy, however, conservatives insist that personal liberty must take precedence over the minimization of crime. If we must accept some tragic deaths to preserve the right to own an AR-15, then it doesn’t seem crazy to believe that we must do the same to preserve the right of the poor not to be imprisoned before being found guilty of a crime.

Some conservatives contend that anyone who endorses police abolition deserves no protection against violent crime, since such radicals wish to deny the broader population such protections. This is dubious moral reasoning. But it is also a misunderstanding of (what most activists mean by) police abolition. Almost no one endorses the elimination of all police tomorrow. Rather, police abolitionists typically subscribe to a utopian vision in which the necessity of policing is drastically reduced through egalitarian economic reforms, likely over a period of generations, while all remaining crime is handled by institutions of law enforcement so radically different from contemporary policing as to warrant another name.

Personally, I think we are always going to need state law-enforcement institutions that resemble contemporary police (though I think those institutions can and should be run in a far more equitable, nonviolent, and effective manner). And I also think that there’s significant empirical evidence to suggest that drastically reducing police head counts would lead to more violent crime.

Regardless, though, it simply is not the case that New York City or Philadelphia have implemented police abolitionists’ desired policies. Indeed, NYC has the most police officers per capita of any city in the United States. It also invests far less into public health insurance, jobs programs, education, child care, and other social services than police abolitionists recommend. Carson was not killed in a city that had embraced the radical left’s vision for criminal justice, but, rather, one that had thoroughly rejected it.

Given these realities, if you responded to Carson’s death by gloating on social media about how progressives were finally paying a price for their policies, then you were not speaking rude truths but, rather, repugnant bullshit. In most cases, conservatives were using their supposed concern for victims of violent crime as a rationalization for sadistically mocking a victim of violent crime whose politics they did not like. This behavior is not politically incorrect. It’s morally grotesque.

Faced with such criticisms, conservatives tend to invoke instances in which people on the left mocked the deaths of right-wingers. And it is true that many liberals celebrated the killing of January 6 rioter Ashli Babbit. Babbit’s case isn’t exactly analogous to Carson’s, as she was killed while trying to break into a legislature in a bid to block the peaceful transfer of power, while Carson was simply trying to get home. Nevertheless, it was morally wrong for liberals to make fun of a woman who’d been killed as a result of her indoctrination into a political cult while her loved ones were still in mourning. And I said so at the time.

There are a million ways to criticize political ideas and movements that you do not like. Gloating over the violent deaths of people you disagree with is among the most vile and ineffective ways of doing so. You will not persuade anyone that your side has moral authority on questions of crime by publicly mocking a murder victim.
 
Does this person not realize it's not the fact they were on the left that's causing people to react to it? It's because they were specifically anti police, anti gun and antifa sympathizers that causes people to think it's funny that they were murdered by criminals in high crime cities ruined by these policies. Nobody celebrates the fact some guy was stabbed by an 18 year old black guy while he was defending his girlfriend. They think he was brainwashed by the left for choosing to walk in that direction because he was afraid of being racist.
 
Does this person not realize it's not the fact they were on the left that's causing people to react to it. It's because they were specifically anti police, anti gun and antifa sympathizers that causes people to think it's funny that they were murdered by criminals in high crime cities ruined by these policies.
did you expect honesty and thoroughness with a leftist?
do you really think they'd specify that when it'd give evidence that their ideas don't work?
 
You, and people like you, made them like this. You've spent years wishing horrible things on conservatives. You've done everything in your power to disenfranchise them, and excused it as "We're only fighting FASHISM dood, don't you wanna fite the fash?" Conservatives now realize you're completely against them, and they're going to laugh when you- their self-proclaimed enemies- die from your own stupidity.
 
You, and people like you, made them like this. You've spent years wishing horrible things on conservatives. You've done everything in your power to disenfranchise them, and excused it as "We're only fighting FASHISM dood, don't you wanna fite the fash?" Conservatives now realize you're completely against them, and they're going to laugh when you- their self-proclaimed enemies- die from your own stupidity.
>ruin people for sharing their beliefs on social media
>banks refuse to let you use their service
>advocate for the mutilation and sexual abuse of children
>give everyone's money to politicians who are already rich

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I'm not celebrating, there's certainly no balloons or cake, but, I am experiencing what I can only call a grim indifference on the inside.

Like watching yet another Imperial Stormtrooper bite it on the Death Star.... yeah, he had a name and a mother, but, I miss him not. He was ultimately a cog in a machine that desires my elimination.
 
And he dedicated his adult life to working on various left-wing causes
Communists aren't human.
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Okay, Eric. What are your thoughts on the death of Ashli Babbitt?
Indeed. As I am sure most have seen in the thread on Ryan Carson's murder, someone pulled up tweets from a now locked down (or has it been deleted now) twitter account belonging to Ryan Carson gloating over Rush Limbaugh's death. That thread is here, it is somewhere around page 18 or 19 iirc.


One key difference though is that Rush Limbaugh's death cannot be attributed to the politics and policies he endorsed. The crime wave that has his New York and San Francisco and other blue strongholds is directly attributed to the policies this stupid twat not only endorsed, but made his profession. Of course, a refusal to come to a reckoning about racial differences are also a part of it, but those things were allowed to explode out of control.

And Twitter is awash with leftist pigs gloating over Babbitt's death, Limbaugh's death. Then you have things like the Herman Cain award on twitter.

So yeah I will chuckle, yeah I will celebrate. Lefties can go fuck themselves with their naked, abject hypocrisy.

Finally, and it is kind of sick to say this, Carson's death is at least somewhat amusing. He pushes off the nig-nog like a girl playing flag football, then trips on the hostile architecture bus bench, slamming his into it before getting stabbed, all while that hussy girlfriend looks on somewhat passively. Then the blackie's gf coems up and asks "are you all right." 😆😅😂🤣
 
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I've watched the left celebrate everything from people dying, murder, cities burn down, and a whole host of other shit, just because the victim was of the opposite political spectrum. Not to mention all the people (a number of them being Hollywood celebrities, you know, the people who claim to be the moral guidance of the country) say how they want to rape, molest, and murder the previous President's youngest child. As much as I try not to, I will dance on every one of you mother-fucker's graves before pissing on it; I didn't make this decision, until I saw how it was a positive for one side, don't blame me, blame yourself.
 
To some right-wing fanatics, voicing that opinion rendered Kruger worthy of death.
No, it's that Kruger was a smug fucking cunt to everyone not of his camp.

Don't give me this "NOOOOO THAAAT'S MEEEAN", emotional blackmail, shitlibs. You gleefully gravedance over my people. Turnabout is fair play.

I will not shed a tear whenever progressives get dismembered by their feral pets.

"You, who are without mercy, now PLEAD for it!?"
 
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I'm not celebrating, there's certainly no balloons or cake, but, I am experiencing what I can only call a grim indifference on the inside.

Like watching yet another Imperial Stormtrooper bite it on the Death Star.... yeah, he had a name and a mother, but, I miss him not. He was ultimately a cog in a machine that desires my elimination.
As individual persons, they may be generally innocent, but they're all guilty because they work for the evil Empire.
 
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