DOTA 2

Yall ever think the game will step back on the absurd complexity of things? I looked through my early alpha screenshots and it was just.. simple. A fucking 53g branch for stats. I can't even begin to wrap my head around this new state of "creep items" and 3 kinds of banks and what have you.
The game is less complex than it has ever been. What you've mentioned is trivial.
 
Yall ever think the game will step back on the absurd complexity of things? I looked through my early alpha screenshots and it was just.. simple. A fucking 53g branch for stats. I can't even begin to wrap my head around this new state of "creep items" and 3 kinds of banks and what have you.
Nahhhh alotta that stuff just gives you more options.
It does however make the game harder to learn (Since there is just more "stuff") so the amount of new players joining is going to be even less than it already was :(
 
windrunner -> windranger
dumbest namechange of all time

total blizcuck death

making skellykang a goost won't bring back HOTS.
That name change never made sense to me at all. Blizzard obviously has copyrights to Alleria Windrunner, but Valve changed the model when the made DOTA 2 so she didn't look like the Warcraft 3 model anymore. Didn't make sense why they would change the name, Windrunner itself isn't a copyright.
 
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dota 2 players be like, "yeah i'll queue up"
 
I suck at playing offlane but had to play a ton of it for the Battlepass thingy, so I figured just going aura tank was the easiest approach, and Underlord brings a pretty strong laning phase with him to make things even more comfortable.

Please tell me you are not going full Russian Battlefury, Harpoon, BKB, Daedalus etc with him. You are going for tanky/aura/disruption items, right?
 
I suck at playing offlane but had to play a ton of it for the Battlepass thingy, so I figured just going aura tank was the easiest approach, and Underlord brings a pretty strong laning phase with him to make things even more comfortable.

Please tell me you are not going full Russian Battlefury, Harpoon, BKB, Daedalus etc with him. You are going for tanky/aura/disruption items, right?
No. I just get Mana Boots -> Mek -> Pipe -> Guardian Greaves. Sometimes, I rush an HP ring from pipe before anything else. After GG I don't really know what to get. The item guides suggest Lotus Orb but in my matches single target damage is so infrequent I rarely do and usually skip to Veil/Shiva's. I've experimented with Blademail but in matchups so far it hasn't been worth it.

One item I'm a secret fan of is Vlad's. Nobody seems to get it anymore but I want to say its aura is crazier than ever has been and it's 2200g for 20% AoE damage increase, like wtf.

I was a big fan of Medallion of Courage on basically everyone back in the day. Throwing it on some agi carry homo and watching his hopes and dreams melt was always hilarious.

I played 300+ Nature's Prophet games in beta / early years. He's not the same at all anymore, but Underlord's ultimate is a global with similar game sense requirements that I already have. I feel like my use of the ultimate is extremely impactful. I also feel his ultimate is much more easily understood, telegraphed, and utilized by pub players in my mid-tier mmr skill level than Io's is.

Edit: I might in the future play with his Agh's or an AC. I like the idea of an AC on him because you never need to build damage for Underlord and attack speed increases his DPS significantly. But it's a really expensive item. Maybe only on an attack damage heavy team. His agh's I've seen in turbo as a very, very annoying spell that effectively allows him to create three pits of malice mid-fight, but Agh's is a very costly item (esp. after mek/pipe) and I don't think that that is impactful enough on its own to be worth it.
 
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I started playing Dota last month after having played League for many years. I had to scratch the moba itch and I won't put vanguard on my PC, so I figured it was time to try out something new. Has been fun so far aside from Peruvians in my lobbies and, apparently very controversially, having no surrender vote.
Is this game just super snowball meta right now or what? Feels like once one team is ahead at the 20m mark they basically can't lose unless they go weapons grade retarded. I almost never have close games which is a shame because those are the most fun. Don't get me wrong games still take 55 minutes even if it's a complete curb stomp but people sure do love fountain farming.
 
That's just how Dota is. Your job is to not let them get ahead, catching up from behind is a feat beyond the skill level of most pub teams.
That's unfortunate. I keep getting told how Dota has so many catchup mechanics compared to League and how it's always winnable which is why you should never surrender but it really just feels like coping to me. Dota feels like it has very few comeback mechanics comparatively. Dota definitely feels like a win more kind of game in general.
 
That's unfortunate. I keep getting told how Dota has so many catchup mechanics compared to League and how it's always winnable which is why you should never surrender but it really just feels like coping to me. Dota feels like it has very few comeback mechanics comparatively. Dota definitely feels like a win more kind of game in general.
FWIW I haven't played the game in a very long time and the game has changed a lot, so maybe I'm wrong. But generally if the opposing team is playing ahead cautiously and yours is uncooperative and can't get pickoffs or outfarm them (most people are shit at farming) then there's no magic trick that'll win you an unwinnable game.
 
FWIW I haven't played the game in a very long time and the game has changed a lot, so maybe I'm wrong. But generally if the opposing team is playing ahead cautiously and yours is uncooperative and can't get pickoffs or outfarm them (most people are shit at farming) then there's no magic trick that'll win you an unwinnable game.
That's the feeling I have gotten, but then Dota players get so defensive about surrender vote option and I super do not get it. If one team has a 20k gold lead I really don't want to play 25 more minutes just to lose. Like beating a dead horse. I know I lost and now I would rather get into my next game. It isn't even like it stops the "ff mindset" because instead I just have people AFK/DC from the game if they want out. I actually have gotten way more DCs and AFKs here than i ever did in League.
I do really like pause button for when people DC and not on purpose though. Really good tool.
 
That's the feeling I have gotten, but then Dota players get so defensive about surrender vote option and I super do not get it. If one team has a 20k gold lead I really don't want to play 25 more minutes just to lose. Like beating a dead horse. I know I lost and now I would rather get into my next game. It isn't even like it stops the "ff mindset" because instead I just have people AFK/DC from the game if they want out. I actually have gotten way more DCs and AFKs here than i ever did in League.
I do really like pause button for when people DC and not on purpose though. Really good tool.
I think the concern about surrender votes is that toxic players would abuse it and it would make pubs even shittier. It's better to be forced to play games you can't win than to lose games you could've actually won just because some nigger from Peru flamed the team into surrendering.
Though honestly seeing how much the game has changed makes me think Valve might eventually add some kind of surrender feature at some point.
 
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That's unfortunate. I keep getting told how Dota has so many catchup mechanics compared to League and how it's always winnable which is why you should never surrender but it really just feels like coping to me. Dota feels like it has very few comeback mechanics comparatively. Dota definitely feels like a win more kind of game in general.
Depends on the patch. This is absolutely a snowball patch but there have been rubberband patches. IMO, one of the biggest difference between low and high skill lobbies is that high skill players know how to push an advantage and close out games. If you're curious, go look up VODs of TI4 and then look up VODs of DAC 2015 and spot the difference.
 
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