Lolcow Doug Jackson / SV Seeker - Boomer hubris personified, an incompetent lunatic's dreams slowly crumbling to dust because of his own poor decisions.

[Graysum]

Reading through the YT comments on one of the videos, using a barge was to transport it was suggested, maybe that could be a way to get it directly to the gulf and get this shit show started.

 

[cuddle striker]

Reading through the YT comments on one of the videos, using a barge was to transport it was suggested, maybe that could be a way to get it directly to the gulf and get this shit show started.

would that work? won't he still need some kind of insurance to get a barge to do that, or are there libertarian madman barge captains that will go up the Mississippi for this?

 

[Graysum]

would that work? won't he still need some kind of insurance to get a barge to do that, or are there libertarian madman barge captains that will go up the Mississippi for this?

The commenter had stated that the barge itself would only need insurance as it can haul cargo, vessels, etc... so he would only need insurance at the gulf which might be less of an issue since it would be a much larger port. ( This is reaching but he made it this far by being retarded maybe he can make it to the sea). As for a barge captain well it might be cheaper to higher one then 3M insurance.

 

[Eydallur]

The commenter had stated that the barge itself would only need insurance as it can haul cargo, vessels, etc... so he would only need insurance at the gulf which might be less of an issue since it would be a much larger port. ( This is reaching but he made it this far by being retarded maybe he can make it to the sea). As for a barge captain well it might be cheaper to higher one then 3M insurance.

Riding piggyback on a more seaworthy vessel does seem to be the only way to get the Seether out of Tulsa. God knows how much it'd cost though.

 

[TurdFondler]

He will never get it insured. Even building your own powered johnboat out of tried and tested plans turns into a prohibitively expensive fiasco. You pay an engineer an hourly rate, essentially. With typical DIY builds at least you can submit a set of plans and the engineer only has to inspect the workmanship.

I dont understand why he couldn't start smaller. There are loads of free/cheap sailboat plans online. There's no reason he couldn't have converted a plywood kit to steel and used that to build up experience.

I didn't think too much of the repurposed school bus motor until I saw the size of the boat. I guess it's just going to be redlined the entire trip? Not to mention marine motors have all kinds of mods to let them deal with salt water.

 

[Eydallur]

I dont understand why he couldn't start smaller.

But then he wouldn't be able to lark about in the caribbean diving for sunken treasure or take researchers to study glaciers.

The most baffling thing about this pig headed approach to boatbuilding is the huge amount of man hours sunk into ridiculous and tasteless ornamentation instead of focusing on the fundamentals that would make either him or his boat capable of ocean passage.

 

[glow]

This is a brilliant thread and I have learned so much about boats reading it. I'm glad to see it out of PG basically immediately too, well done OP.

Look at he position of the bilge keel, that makes no sense at all, in this positon on a sea going vessel that's not going high speeds it's fucking worthless. I don't even start about the danger of runing a ground in shallow waters with that "thing".

I had to do some research to understand what this is exactly. A bilge keel prevents boats from rolling, and I guess capsizing - it's this thing here:

The article on Wikipedia specifically says:

Also, a bilge keel should not protrude from the hull so far that the device could be damaged when the vessel is alongside a pier, even with a few degrees of adverse heel

So taking another look at the bilge keel posted earlier you can imagine what happens in shallow waters:

I'm not really sure where it would go for best effect however. I'm guessing it should be smaller and mounted further up the hull?

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

This is a brilliant thread and I have learned so much about boats reading it. I'm glad to see it out of PG basically immediately too, well done OP.


I had to do some research to understand what this is exactly. A bilge keel prevents boats from rolling, and I guess capsizing - it's this thing here:

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The article on Wikipedia specifically says:


So taking another look at the bilge keel posted earlier you can imagine what happens in shallow waters:

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I'm not really sure where it would go for best effect however. I'm guessing it should be smaller and mounted further up the hull?

Hard to say were exactly the bilge keel should be without knowing the flow conditons of the hull.
The bilge keels he used on his nighmare boat would work with a small sailing vessel about half the size or less of his construction tho. What he did is, taking a bilge keel for a way smaller vessel which also uses the bilge keel to rest on the ground during ebb tide and slapped it on his ships hull.
That's exactly why stuff like this exists, but good luck explaining this to that delusional anti science moron.

 

[Eydallur]

I had to do some research to understand what this is exactly. A bilge keel prevents boats from rolling, and I guess capsizing - it's this thing here:

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Bilge keels on a sail boat are not the same as bilge keels on a motor vessel. Sailboats are designed to heel (lean over) and thus the keel and its ballast must be of sufficient mass and situated at appropriate depth to keep the boat from losing stability (tipping over, aka capsizing) when under power. A motor vessel doesn't have to contend with a heeling moment and so its keel and ballast only need to be configured to maintain sufficient stability when encountering the rolling moment of heavy seas.

Bilge keels on a sailboat just means twin keels. Shorter than a single fixed keel design, they allow for approaches closer to shore and intentional beaching without tipping over as the tide recedes. The major downside is they enlarge the wetted area of the hull (means you can't go as fast and you will drift more) and require more ballast to provide the same righting moment as a single, deeper running keel.
A niche keel design found almost exclusively in boats 40' or shorter, bilge keels aren't really suitable for overweight and underpowered boats. In short, just another example of how little thought went into the design of the Seether.

Here are some more basics of sailing.
More bigger more gooder. Speed is a function of wind, sail area and wetted waterline length minus drag. The longer your boat the better for going fast in a straight line.
The more beam the better. A shallow, flat bottomed box is more or less the ideal monohull design since it'll be heeling over on the outer extremity of its hull with the entire rest of it providing righting moment.
Speed is safety, Your rudder is only effective if water is flowing past it, if you're going the same speed as waves that are overtaking you then you will lose all steering authority.

 

[Zeke Can't Sleep]

Wasn't the guy who build that "architectural landmark" actually a member of Something Awful?

lol yes! There's also a video that Fredrick Knudsen (Down the Rabbit Hole) did on his second channel talking about the Groverhaus if anyone's interested.

I feel bad for people who can't just admit they are only good at one field and can't let others be hired on to use their skills to make a project even better. I guess that would defeat the purpose of showing how big brain at building they are...

 

[Eydallur]

What's this? A hint of regret?

 

[Red Velvet Frappe]

Huh, I'm not surprised that he lost his wife and family to this metal monstrosity.

"They'll allow him to be around me when they grow up or he grows up." It doesn't surprise me that this boomer has been estranged from his family.

I might make it a project to go through some estranged parent groups, because there is a slim chance he's not in one of the forums complaining about his ex wife and how childish his son is for not letting him see his grandson.

Look at how safe it is for toddlers! I'm sure he'll love all that unsanded aluminum.

 

[Eydallur]

Huh, I'm not surprised that he lost his wife and family to this metal monstrosity

Quote from anon:

His wife left him and his only kid hates him. He burns through friends, and then jumped the shark with his ridiculous "prank." His current girlfriend is only in it for money and small-time celebrity status. Nobody close to him sticks around. I don't blame him for having a death wish.

Found a thread about Doug during his infamous prank video. Apparently a lot of these guys were longtime followers. One guy there even made the most impressive bit of Doug's boat, that octopus casting on the steering wheel. They go from shock and sadness Doug might be injured to disgust when it all came to light that it was a prank. Pretty entertaining bathroom read to get a snapshot in time of the Doug saga.
http://forums.thehomefoundry.org/index.php?threads/svseeker-update.968/

 

[glow]

http://forums.thehomefoundry.org/index.php?threads/svseeker-update.968/

Note that this URL seems to be going via the 4chan link redirector which returns an error when I go to it, the correct URL is http://forums.thehomefoundry.org/index.php?threads/svseeker-update.968/

I guess the 4chan crew are interested in him too, got a link to the thread?

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

In theory if he got someone to barge it out to the gulf he still would have the same problems he has now with regards to putting that abomination in the water. No harbor master is going to allow that thing to touch water until it is insured. And no insurance company will insure it until it’s been inspected by a marine engineer. It looks as though this saga has come to an end for now.

I will add this to my watchlist in the hopes that one day Doug will fulfill his dreams and get this floating groverhaus in the water.

 

[Eydallur]

I guess the 4chan crew are interested in him too, got a link to the thread?

This is the current thread on /diy/

/diy/ - /svsg/ - Sailing Vessel Seeker General - Do It Yourself - 4chan

/svsg/ - Sailing Vessel Seeker General - "/diy/ - Do It Yourself" is 4chan's imageboard for DIY/do it yourself projects, home improvement, and makers.

boards.4channel.org

 

[Pee Cola]

I'm not a machinist or an engineer, but how the fuck would a CNC mill work on a boat? More to the point, who'd actually need a CNC mill on a boat?

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

I'm not a machinist or an engineer, but how the fuck would a CNC mill work on a boat? More to the point, who'd actually need a CNC mill on a boat?

I am both and while yes in can be helpful not on a boat that size. Most ships with machines like that are large naval vessels or floating plants/specialized repair ships. The only upside is that the mill in question is Tormach Chineseium.

 

[Pee Cola]

I am both and while yes in can be helpful not on a boat that size. Most ships with machines like that are large naval vessels or floating plants/specialized repair ships.

I can understand why some large vessels (both naval and civilian) would have a CNC mill on board, if not an entire machine shop. It just seems silly on a 75' boat with one dude on board.

The only upside is that the mill in question is Tormach Chineseium.

Future anchor?

 

[Torque Wheeler]

I can understand why some large vessels (both naval and civilian) would have a CNC mill on board, if not an entire machine shop. It just seems silly on a 75' boat with one dude on board.

Future anchor?

You never know when you'll be out at sea and you need to fabricate important parts on the fly, like replacement Klingon Bat'Leths to bolt to the ceiling