"Doxing" in 2025

"If we change the language normies will respect us!"

"When has changing our language made us respected?"

"The normies will change their mind!"

"OK, but when have normies changed their mind before?"

"Omg you fucking incel."
Normies literally change their mind all the time. Feeding ammo to your enemy is retarded. Making yourself look worse to spite your enemy is incel mindset.
 
Normies literally change their mind all the time. Feeding ammo to your enemy is retarded. Making yourself look worse to spite your enemy is incel mindset.
I'm sure calling doxing by a cute term will totally make posting someone's IRL name, DOB, and address acceptable to normies.

Literally nothing will come out of using the word "dox." Rapist Elliot Fong Jones and his lawyers have already screencapped this thread and can prove that one day Kiwi Farms (a website out to murder vulnerable transgender people) decided to call "dox" by another name. There's 12+ years of people using "dox" on this site to mean whatever gay euphemism is decided upon (better get that word filter up!). Biased judges don't follow the law so they don't need to see the word "dox" to haul the site through the legal system.

It's not illegal to call a legal action by an illegal name. If I call getting ice cream getting crack because the ice cream is addictive and tasty, I'm not actually in trouble. I can even sell ice cream with drug-themed names and call my ice cream shop the "Crack Shack" (because it's in a shack and it's addictive like crack) and literally no one can do a thing about it.
 
I put my vote toward calling it "enlightenment". It has the play on words with shining light on things as well as being a sort of passive aggressive, snobby elitism bend that really drives cows wild! Madder than a mad cow!
 
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I'm coming around to "Phonebooking" but only if we shorten it to "PBing" or something else like that. It just needs to be short, and most of the suggestions aren't.
 
THANK YOU.
I wa subtly aware about 'doxxing' having two different definitions, but you not only made this clear but also brought into ligh the current zeitgeist; people are purposefully mixing up the two and are successfully bringing the law into this. In this world being more conscious of privacy (even if not doing proper safeguarding), doxxing will become a more prominent subject later on.

What is worse is how both meanings are in a way in a continuum; simply reposting information that is publicly available can easily lead to harassment at best; look at what nearly happened to Nick Fuentes and who died along the way. You can blame others not 'performing proper opsec', but some forms of doxxing (secon definition) are the results of loads of hoops that an average Internet user would not comprehend.

By the by, I vote towards 'phonebooking', since phone books give perspective over this privacy debacle.
 
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do any of the laws use the word doxing?
Yes, they do. THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE OP.
Illinois Public Act 103-0439 said:
This Act may be cited as the Civil Liability for Doxing Act.
(a) An individual engages in the act of doxing when that individual intentionally publishes another person's personally identifiable information without the consent of the person whose information is published and:
(1) the information is published with the intent that it be used to harm or harass the person whose information is published and with knowledge or reckless disregard that the person whose information is published would be reasonably likely to suffer death, bodily injury, or stalking...
 
I never said you did, my point is the reason Null has to worry about stuff like this is because of what lolcows think and do. It doesn't matter what the legal definition of doxing is if nobody cares enough to make a stink about it.

Liz Dong Gone is the perfect example, because his entire crusade is motivated by him being butthurt over the Trans Lifeline scam being exposed and then his little 'consent accident' tweet. Documenting either of those things isn't anything close to illegal but because it makes him Big Mad he has dedicated his worthless life to ruining Josh and the Farms.
It's less about the cows and more about the people that can be swayed to be anti-Farms. You'll never convince a cow that they earned the dox via bad opsec, but you can mitigate trouble with normal people who aren't familiar with laws.
 
I don't know how often that happens but anyone who is okay with going THAT deep in infodumping sounds like the type of autist that thinks they can get away with everything because 'i have autism please be patient with me and let me do whatever the fuck i want'. Latest memory that comes to mind is when that guy who messed with DSP's internet connection signed up on the forum to admit that it was him who did it and he legitimately did not care about any consequences that would come from doing it.

I really really wish having autism would stop being a 'get out of jail free' card by authorities.
Shit like that's happened a few times on the forum- some example off the top of my head is that Chris Chan's landlord's full unredacted SSN was slapped into his OP for all to see and it's still there to this day. There was also an example of a humiliation fetishist who posted a picture here of them holding their SSN card while wearing nothing but a shitty diaper and the reasoning was "of course were not gonna take this down because the idiot willingly posted it here themselves"- but that begs the question if an underage user of the forum posted their own uncensored nudes here would the site's management refuse to take it down for the same reason? It's a giant legal liability regardless.

At the very bare minimum there needs to be a rule against posting personal information that can directly and immediately be used for financial crimes like forgery, fraud, and identity theft (SSNs, bank account and routing numbers, credit card information, etc). Otherwise it's really playing with fire and it's a gamble to end up like RaidForums.
 
This is so retarded.

Changing what you call it won't stop people from knowing that doxxing (form b) tends to lead to harassment, intimidation, threats, or swattings because it does. Most people do not have the ability to look up 'public information' to find someone's address so that they can show up at their doorstep or call in a false hostage situation on their target in an attempt to get a swat team to show up and shoot them. If you publish the address of a victim and then someone else swats that victim, people are going to look at you as an accomplice and equally as guilty because of cause and effect. Doing this nerd shit where you say society has to change its operations to wise up and not do that isn't a realistic goal because people (such as police) are retarded and you have to deal with people as they are, not imaginary 150IQ people who factcheck and are wise to internet bullshit. Playing pretend and saying "It's not doxxing, it's journalism" is just useless cope yapping, its like muslims saying "its not rape, it was consensual sex with a 12 year old". Stop playing pretend. The saw killer had a better argument for innocence because after all, he gave them a key to the bear trap over their heads and they just had to cut open their own flesh to get it if they didn't want to die.

I can easily imagine a situation where doxxing leads to swatting. I can't imagine a situation where redacting someone's address causes unintended harmful consequences.

When you have a popular or controversial lolcow or eceleb figure and someone doxxes them out to millions of people, its like rolling a 10,000 sided dice and expecting it to never roll a critical hit of 10,000. You are absolutely statistically guaranteed to have some violent psycho retard see it and decide to do something stupid.

Julian Assange / Wikileaks released some files back in 2010/2011 if I recall which people were critical of because they weren't properly redacted which put some people's lives in danger, but then wikileaks worked to improve the redacting process after facing some backlash and heat. I hope Null figures it out but I doubt it
 
Changing what you call it won't stop people from knowing that doxxing (form b) tends to lead to harassment, intimidation, threats, or swattings because it does.

What was said in the OP is it's not a good idea to use doxxing as a blanket term for both things.

Is it correct that spread of public information in a far more accessible manner will lead to it being paraded around and evil actions done with this info? Yes, but KF's goal is not to encourage people to do dumb shit with it, or to encourage them to do anything with it aside from keep it up and archived. This site is built on "look, don't touch." and this request is so that the word that's already had its meaning shifted 180° doesn't get further confused around the forum.

Don't know what the fuck you're on about.
 
I think I may stick with "ID" and "ID'd" as an alternative to "dox" and "doxing"/"doxxing".
 
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