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IDanceonTrannyGraves said:
Would be interesting if they finally brought Braxiatel to the screen. He's been around since the NAs.

Edit- I forgot about Romana mentioning the Braxiatel collection so he predates the NAs.

Completely off-topic, here's a picture of Jeremy Corbyn holding a Sil Dvd. It is supposedly not photoshopped and I think it's hilarious.View attachment 3385894
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The way his eyebrow is cocked plus the 1/2 moon specs and the hair are near 1:1 Brax.jpg

Also the irony of Jezza & Sil , jesus.
 
The other rumour I'm hearing is that

NPH might be the Master of the Land of Fiction and that's why the new Doctor regresses back into Tennant.

That actually makes sense but I guess we'll see.
 
IDanceonTrannyGraves said:
The other rumour I'm hearing is that

NPH might be the Master of the Land of Fiction and that's why the new Doctor regresses back into Tennant.

That actually makes sense but I guess we'll see.
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Would be a bit weird to have the Doctor regress but not the Tardis (and to have a new screwdriver to boot). Not impossible, but I'm leaning more towards the Toymaker right now.
 
Finally finished the latest War Master boxset from Big Finish. The only high point was the last episode , which appeared to borrow from the nanite things in Stones of Blood.

Entertaining if you like hearing Tennant and Jacobi bicker , but not much else.
 
The Soviet Union stopped being an ideological threat decades ago, and modern writers don't seem like the types to go red scare 2.0 because of China, so why can't we have any good Cyberman episodes that focus on the transhumanist elements?

With no attempt at allegory for communism, all we're left with are robot zombies.

Why not have a multipart episode that shows a society embracing cybernetics for the sake of survival, throwing away their humanity piece by piece? Instead of focusing on the immediate horror of instant Cyber-conversion like the hacks who wrote the Tennant-era Cyberman stories, writers could instead explore the philosophical questions implied in The Tenth Planet: "what would you give up to survive? Is being competitive worth the price of fundamentally altering your body and mind? How much of your humanity could you give up before there's nothing of 'you' left? Is there inherent value in maintaining an unmodified human form?" There's all sorts of ways the potential horrors of transhumanism could be examined, but nuWho consistently disappoints on that front despite having no compelling ideological reason to do so, unlike Cold War era authors of Cyberman stories.
 
crowabunga said:
The Soviet Union stopped being an ideological threat decades ago, and modern writers don't seem like the types to go red scare 2.0 because of China, so why can't we have any good Cyberman episodes that focus on the transhumanist elements?

With no attempt at allegory for communism, all we're left with are robot zombies.

Why not have a multipart episode that shows a society embracing cybernetics for the sake of survival, throwing away their humanity piece by piece? Instead of focusing on the immediate horror of instant Cyber-conversion like the hacks who wrote the Tennant-era Cyberman stories, writers could instead explore the philosophical questions implied in The Tenth Planet: "what would you give up to survive? Is being competitive worth the price of fundamentally altering your body and mind? How much of your humanity could you give up before there's nothing of 'you' left? Is there inherent value in maintaining an unmodified human form?" There's all sorts of ways the potential horrors of transhumanism could be examined, but nuWho consistently disappoints on that front despite having no compelling ideological reason to do so, unlike Cold War era authors of Cyberman stories.
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Wasn't that the deal with the Toclafane?
 
Flexo said:
Wasn't that the deal with the Toclafane?
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I had forgotten about them. Just shows how conceptually boxed Cybermen are if a one-off monster did a better job exploring some disturbing implications of transhumanism than the superficial poster-child of it. At least, I think; now that I look further, the finale for Capaldi may have been interesting and explored similar questions even further than the Toclafane did, but I gave up on Doctor Who somewhere in 11's run so I've never seen those episodes.
 
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crowabunga said:
Why not have a multipart episode that shows a society embracing cybernetics for the sake of survival, throwing away their humanity piece by piece? Instead of focusing on the immediate horror of instant Cyber-conversion like the hacks who wrote the Tennant-era Cyberman stories, writers could instead explore the philosophical questions implied in The Tenth Planet: "what would you give up to survive? Is being competitive worth the price of fundamentally altering your body and mind? How much of your humanity could you give up before there's nothing of 'you' left? Is there inherent value in maintaining an unmodified human form?" There's all sorts of ways the potential horrors of transhumanism could be examined, but nuWho consistently disappoints on that front despite having no compelling ideological reason to do so, unlike Cold War era authors of Cyberman stories.
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They did that as a Big Finish audio with the 5th Doctor and it was really good. I wish they had done that on the series instead of the retarded Two Masters clusterfuck we got.

Also there's a rumour that
MEL of all fucking people
is coming back. Sweet fucking merciful christ.
 
IDanceonTrannyGraves said:
They did that as a Big Finish audio with the 5th Doctor and it was really good. I wish they had done that on the series instead of the retarded Two Masters clusterfuck we got.

Also there's a rumour that
MEL of all fucking people
is coming back. Sweet fucking merciful christ.
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Spare Parts. Worth checking out.
 
crowabunga said:
Cool, thanks. Never listened to Doctor Who audiobooks before, are there any others worth giving a shot?
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Keeping it to the Monthly Range, off the top of my head I remember really liking the following:

Jubilee - Sixth Doctor Dalek tale. Somewhat adapted into the TV episode Dalek.
Storm Warning - Eighth Doctor's first Big Finish Story
The Chimes of Midnight - Eighth Doctor
Seasons of Fear - Eighth Doctor
Embrace the Darkness - Eighth Doctor
Night Thoughts - Seventh Doctor

Will update if I can remember more. You should be able to find lots of Big Finish on Auiobookbay or some other torrent site.

For spinoff ranges:
Companion Chronicles
The Eight Doctor Adventures (original Eighth Doctor spinoff range with Lucie Miller, haven't listened to any of the subsequent ranges)
Jago and Litefoot

I got into Big Finish through the Eight Doctor stories so my likes skew towards his stories. Most of my favorites from the Monthly Range are in the first 100 stories. As time went on the series just got less interesting.
 
feral cat #6385 said:
Keeping it to the Monthly Range, off the top of my head I remember really liking the following:

Jubilee - Sixth Doctor Dalek tale. Somewhat adapted into the TV episode Dalek.
Storm Warning - Eighth Doctor's first Big Finish Story
The Chimes of Midnight - Eighth Doctor
Seasons of Fear - Eighth Doctor
Embrace the Darkness - Eighth Doctor
Night Thoughts - Seventh Doctor

Will update if I can remember more. You should be able to find lots of Big Finish on Auiobookbay or some other torrent site.

For spinoff ranges:
Companion Chronicles
The Eight Doctor Adventures (original Eighth Doctor spinoff range with Lucie Miller, haven't listened to any of the subsequent ranges)
Jago and Litefoot

I got into Big Finish through the Eight Doctor stories so my likes skew towards his stories. Most of my favorites from the Monthly Range are in the first 100 stories. As time went on the series just got less interesting.
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Strongly agree with this, the Eighth Doctor gets some of the best audio adventures. His time with Lucie and Charlie were both fantastic and range from fun takes on regular DW stories to higher concept sci-fi ideas which aren't possible to film on the shoestring budget the BBC gives the main series.
 
IneptRobot said:
Strongly agree with this, the Eighth Doctor gets some of the best audio adventures. His time with Lucie and Charlie were both fantastic and range from fun takes on regular DW stories to higher concept sci-fi ideas which aren't possible to film on the shoestring budget the BBC gives the main series.
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There's lots of gems in early Big Finish. Colin and Sylvester get a lot more to work with and original companions to play off of.
 
Lot of Eighth Doctor recommendations here. That's always a very popular take but respectfully they've never really grabbed me. If you're a fan of Classic Who (and I think you have to be at least a little this to enjoy the old Big Finish audios), here's a quick dash through some of my favourites. You'll notice a lot of Sixth Doctor stuff. IMO, he has some of the best audios of the lot and he really got a lot better treatment by audio scripts than he did on TV.
  • Jubilee (Sixth Doctor). Already recommended and already noted that it was the inspiration for the TV episode Dalek. More nuanced than that, though. Caveat - you'll have some tolerance for absurdities in your stories despite the dark tone of the story.
  • Davros (Sixth Doctor). All time winner of the best pre-credits introduction ever. Like Jubilee it indulges in a mix of whimsical British satire with the dark tone. Do not confuse with I, Davros or whatever it is called. If it doesn't start with "When I press this switch..." you have the wrong one.
  • King Maker (Fifth Doctor). One of the funniest ones of them all. I'm trying not to recommend just the funny ones but there's stuff in this that cracks me up even now. Also, it has Christopher Ecclestone as Richard III. And a certain snappily dressed villain with a moustache... ;)
  • Council of Nicaea (Fifth Doctor). A pure historical - something I really wish we got more of with Doctor Who. Then again, these days it would just be Woke explorations of slavery and segregation so maybe ignore I said that. This has Erimem (one of my favourite companions alongside Evelyn Smythe). Erimem really is something special amongst the companions in my opinion. Truly interesting and has a refreshingly different perspective on things.
  • Peri and Piscon Paradox. By turns funny and sad. Definitely you require familiarity with Fifth and Sixth Doctor era but if you like Peri (and I can give you a couple of good reasons why you should) then this is ace.
I haven't listened to all the Fourth Doctor audios but I'm afraid what I heard of them wasn't that good.
 
Overly Serious said:
Lot of Eighth Doctor recommendations here. That's always a very popular take but respectfully they've never really grabbed me. If you're a fan of Classic Who (and I think you have to be at least a little this to enjoy the old Big Finish audios), here's a quick dash through some of my favourites. You'll notice a lot of Sixth Doctor stuff. IMO, he has some of the best audios of the lot and he really got a lot better treatment by audio scripts than he did on TV.
  • Jubilee (Sixth Doctor). Already recommended and already noted that it was the inspiration for the TV episode Dalek. More nuanced than that, though. Caveat - you'll have some tolerance for absurdities in your stories despite the dark tone of the story.
  • Davros (Sixth Doctor). All time winner of the best pre-credits introduction ever. Like Jubilee it indulges in a mix of whimsical British satire with the dark tone. Do not confuse with I, Davros or whatever it is called. If it doesn't start with "When I press this switch..." you have the wrong one.
  • King Maker (Fifth Doctor). One of the funniest ones of them all. I'm trying not to recommend just the funny ones but there's stuff in this that cracks me up even now. Also, it has Christopher Ecclestone as Richard III. And a certain snappily dressed villain with a moustache... ;)
  • Council of Nicaea (Fifth Doctor). A pure historical - something I really wish we got more of with Doctor Who. Then again, these days it would just be Woke explorations of slavery and segregation so maybe ignore I said that. This has Erimem (one of my favourite companions alongside Evelyn Smythe). Erimem really is something special amongst the companions in my opinion. Truly interesting and has a refreshingly different perspective on things.
  • Peri and Piscon Paradox. By turns funny and sad. Definitely you require familiarity with Fifth and Sixth Doctor era but if you like Peri (and I can give you a couple of good reasons why you should) then this is ace.
I haven't listened to all the Fourth Doctor audios but I'm afraid what I heard of them wasn't that good.
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The Eight Doctor stories were the first Big Finish I listened to because it was "a new Doctor Who." Wasn't until much later I checked out the rest of the range. Agreed on the Fourth Doctor audios. Very disappointing. Nest Cottage is better than anything Nick Briggs has shit out.

Jubilee and Davros are two excellent sixth doctor stories.

Omega and Master are pretty good too (fifth and seventh doctor).
 
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