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starborn427614 said:
Some reviews for "Boom" seem to be out in the wild. There's a few more than these here, but aside from The Telegraph's they're mostly along the same lines.

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I'm going to have to agree with these reviews. BOOM is the only Gatwa episode I've seen. It is fun, tense and mostly well-executed.

Its interesting seeing the Doctor in a no-win situation where every one of his plans ends up going sideways and making things worse. And he didn't fail in the classic Moffat way where the Doctor is wrong. No, in fact the Doctor is right the entire time. Things just get fucked up due to bsd luck or things out of the Doctor's control.

And while the ending is a MASSIVE asspull, I'm glad it didn't come from the Doctor being "clever."

The downsides? Gatwa sucks at dialogue. He's monotone and lacks emotion. He seems to be more of a physical performer and, like the review says, the premise basically robbed him of the opportunity to display his physicality.

I wish BOOM was a Capaldi episode, because it would've been an instant classic. Gatwa just doesn't have the chops to pull it off.

9/10
 
Stab You in the Back said:
I'm going to have to agree with these reviews. BOOM is the only Gatwa episode I've seen. It is fun, tense and mostly well-executed.

Its interesting seeing the Doctor in a no-win situation where every one of his plans ends up going sideways and making things worse. And he didn't fail in the classic Moffat way where the Doctor is wrong. No, in fact the Doctor is right the entire time. Things just get fucked up due to bsd luck or things out of the Doctor's control.

And while the ending is a MASSIVE asspull, I'm glad it didn't come from the Doctor being "clever."

The downsides? Gatwa sucks at dialogue. He's monotone and lacks emotion. He seems to be more of a physical performer and, like the review says, the premise basically robbed him of the opportunity to display his physicality.

I wish BOOM was a Capaldi episode, because it would've been an instant classic. Gatwa just doesn't have the chops to pull it off.

9/10
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It's always a fun idea to imagine another Doctor in the place of the current one. I can't imagine anyone else doing Heaven Sent other than Capaldi, but Matt Smith or Chris Eccelston would bring a similar, yet totally different kind of intensity to it.
 
DoubleD said:
There is another reason for this, something that didn't even occur to me when I said:

Because now that I think about it, the "14" nomenclature was probably done (at least in part) to set him up to turn evil and become the Valeyard. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the original series stated that the Valeyard falls between the Doctor's 12th and final incarnations. (I know there were a bunch of other origin theories offered for this character in extended media, but this is the main one, is it not?)

Well, 14 is after 12 and before the final incarnation, which makes me wonder. It wouldn't have worked quite as well if they'd just kept calling him the 10th.
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i thought it was to make it look less obvious they went from white woman to black man almost immediately like the literal daily mail comment sections were joking theyd do
 
I particularly enjoyed your use of the phrase “Thoughts and Prayers” throughout the episode. Because I think it’s something that in this world is absolutely futile when people say it, usually after a massive incident. Was that the intention there?

Yes, well I always think, how about, “I’m sending thoughts and prayers”… how about cash? You could send cash! Or, help! What the hell is that? I’m against it. It’s like saying, “I’m very, very saddened about these needless deaths.” I’m glad you gave me that useful piece of information! I thought I might have cheered you up.

I think it is vacuity. How can people come out with this crap in the face of genuine tragedy? You come out with thoughts and prayers? Say something useful or do something useful. Be respectful. Don’t reach up for a line off a shelf and throw it in the grieving faces of the massively traumatized.

Yes. My hope was, if we can get “thoughts and prayers” going as a villainous catchphrase, like “Exterminate!”, people might stop saying it.
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Well... I now hate Moffat as much as the fandom.

Bossman Josh is right - sink the entire island of Britain. It's the only way to be sure.
 
it's amazing how annoyed leftoids get at that useless phrase, yet have signalboosted trigger warning, solidarity, from the river to the sea, black lives matter, silence is violence, check your privilege, you are valid, both sidesing, pride, metoo, yes all men and pretty much every single useless hashtag that has resulted in zero reduction of dead bodies
 
Flexo said:
sink the entire island of Britain
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The only reason the show is still going is the huge fanbase in America propping it up. Its going to be more Americanised if the license fee is scrapped and the Beeb really need to sell its shit overseas to keep the lights on.

So sink America if you want rid of this.
 
Ratings freefall

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IDanceonTrannyGraves said:
Ratings freefall

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For all the cope that this isn't the full picture because it was pre released on iPlayer: the BBC has that iPlayer data in real time. If there was anything to shout about there we would already have heard it.

Whilst I'm sure we will have iPlayer/D+ claims in a week or so about how well the show has done these won't be verifiable and remember how they count views. 30 seconds of watch time counts as an iPlayer view so if your a little slow with an autoplay after something you actually wanted to watch or start watching and decide within the first 5 mins that it's retarded and switch off, congratulations, you're a viewer (and fan) of this masterpiece.

whogoesthere said:
The only reason the show is still going is the huge fanbase in America propping it up. Its going to be more Americanised if the license fee is scrapped and the Beeb really need to sell its shit overseas to keep the lights on.
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What huge fanbase in America? Used to be the case ten years ago but US viewing figures in recent years have been tragic.
 
DoubleD said:
There is another reason for this, something that didn't even occur to me when I said:

Because now that I think about it, the "14" nomenclature was probably done (at least in part) to set him up to turn evil and become the Valeyard. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the original series stated that the Valeyard falls between the Doctor's 12th and final incarnations. (I know there were a bunch of other origin theories offered for this character in extended media, but this is the main one, is it not?)

Well, 14 is after 12 and before the final incarnation, which makes me wonder. It wouldn't have worked quite as well if they'd just kept calling him the 10th.
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Meta 10 would have made a hell of a lot more sense being 'the Valeyard' than 10 again as 14... especially in the context of 2024 NuWho... Not that any of it matters at all when "the timeless child" is a thing,
 
BetterFuckChuck said:
it's amazing how annoyed leftoids get at that useless phrase, yet have signalboosted trigger warning, solidarity, from the river to the sea, black lives matter, silence is violence, check your privilege, you are valid, both sidesing, pride, metoo, yes all men and pretty much every single useless hashtag that has resulted in zero reduction of dead bodies
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Bingo. I am prepared to be wrong but I would be curious to look at any of Moffat's social media and see if he's repeated any of those classic signal phrases himself.

whogoesthere said:
The only reason the show is still going is the huge fanbase in America propping it up. Its going to be more Americanised if the license fee is scrapped and the Beeb really need to sell its shit overseas to keep the lights on.

So sink America if you want rid of this.
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You're right.

We best just kill all humans to be sure.

"ChatGPT, define for me, 'cringe'."

ChatGPT:
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Ian Levine is having another breakdown

His shitty IG filter recons are getting roasted and he can't handle it

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whogoesthere said:
The only reason the show is still going is the huge fanbase in America propping it up. Its going to be more Americanised if the license fee is scrapped and the Beeb really need to sell its shit overseas to keep the lights on.
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Doctor Who has no fanbase left in America. It died out after the 50th.

If only we were in this universe.
 
IDanceonTrannyGraves said:
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Aren't 2 million views still a high bar for modern TV? Anything over a million and not a major event is usually considered viable now.
Milkshake Sniffer said:
What huge fanbase in America? Used to be the case ten years ago but US viewing figures in recent years have been tragic.
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Dr. Who was a tumblr thing in the USA wasn't it? BBC America started to fund the series with Matt Smith after Tennant had carried the series to it's peak modern popularity around the same time.
 
Shiverpeaks said:
Aren't 2 million views still a high bar for modern TV? Anything over a million and not a major event is usually considered viable now.

Dr. Who was a tumblr thing in the USA wasn't it? BBC America started to fund the series with Matt Smith after Tennant had carried the series to it's peak modern popularity around the same time.
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It got bigger under Smith.

Capaldi and Jodie tanked shit so hard it’s mind boggling.
 
One of the things I have found interesting about Davies writing about Christianity in Doctor Who is whenever its mentioned, it is usually in either a positive or neutral context. Considering that he is gay, it's something I wouldn't have expected.
 
Shiverpeaks said:
Aren't 2 million views still a high bar for modern TV? Anything over a million and not a major event is usually considered viable now.
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"Viable"? By what metric? No one is claiming that it's viable in the normal sense of generating more income than expenditure. The BBC being a "public service broadcaster" is playing a slightly different game but still needs, sort of, real world (i.e. financial) viability; hence the focus on BBC commercial and worldwide with all the licensing and partnership deals.

It also needs those ratings (viewership). Not only for direct commercial reasons but because if people aren't watching there's no justification for the tax imposed with criminal sanctions on anyone who watches broadcast television (or live streaming) regardless of whether any BBC content is viewed. Or for that matter, the BBC itself. It's not much of a public service broadcaster if 97% of that public (that's roughly the figure you get using that 2m viewing figure) decline to use that service.

If the argument is being advanced that it's "viable" because other broadcasters are also failing that's not much of an argument. If your premise is correct it doesn't mean that the BBC is succeeding; it means that others are failing alongside the BBC.
 
Milkshake Sniffer said:
"Viable"? By what metric? No one is claiming that it's viable in the normal sense of generating more income than expenditure. The BBC being a "public service broadcaster" is playing a slightly different game but still needs, sort of, real world (i.e. financial) viability; hence the focus on BBC commercial and worldwide with all the licensing and partnership deals.

It also needs those ratings (viewership). Not only for direct commercial reasons but because if people aren't watching there's no justification for the tax imposed with criminal sanctions on anyone who watches broadcast television (or live streaming) regardless of whether any BBC content is viewed. Or for that matter, the BBC itself. It's not much of a public service broadcaster if 97% of that public (that's roughly the figure you get using that 2m viewing figure) decline to use that service.

If the argument is being advanced that it's "viable" because other broadcasters are also failing that's not much of an argument. If your premise is correct it doesn't mean that the BBC is succeeding; it means that others are failing alongside the BBC.
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The BBC isn't failing in any of it's real goals. It's always been the propaganda arm of the British government or the people funding the British government behind closed doors. The TV license is hated and most people want rid of it and the BBC. But enough people watch BBC news and the soap operas to keep it funded as a viable 'grass roots' bulldog to sick on opponents and educate middle age women on the issues of the day through Eastenders.
 
LolRaccoon said:
One of the things I have found interesting about Davies writing about Christianity in Doctor Who is whenever its mentioned, it is usually in either a positive or neutral context. Considering that he is gay, it's something I wouldn't have expected.
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He has his faults as a writer and just in general, but he's usually respectful of people's faith.
 
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