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kinglordsupreme19 said:
I think 9 would also have worked. I still wonder why they didn't bother to get Ecclestone for the special.
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Truth be told, I'm not a huge 9 fan... I guess he kind of works, but I just don't see him as "The War Doctor" in the way I could see Hurt or McGann.

As for why Eccleston didn't come back, they tried to get him, but basically he was a whiny bitch and didn't want to be typecast (even though he's barely done anything since, certainly nothing on the level of Doctor Who.) Eventually he said he would only come back if they gave into a bunch of ridiculous demands he had (the only one I remember offhand being that they had to bring back a shitty director he liked working with who hadn't been with the show for years by that point)
 
kinglordsupreme19 said:
There's a lack of concrete information about that. While it's likely he refused, he has alluded to in recent interviews that he had a bad rapport with certain parts of the Dr Who production crew and that he left (or was forced out) because of politics and was put on a 'blacklist' of some sorts.
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I think I found what your'e talking about:
https://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2018-03-19/doctor-who-christopher-eccleston-russell-t-davies/

I've heard in different places (including a video where he touches upon it to a class in an acting workshop he's at) that he bailed because he didn't like the way the crew was treated behind the scenes by the higher ups and didn't want to deal with that. The higher-ups were pissed off because he more or less gave them gold (say what you will about Series 1 but it wouldn't gave gone past that if it wasn't any good) and was bailing after only one season. I didn't know he had problems with RTD, that's actually surprising to me.

Give it time, he'll come around. He's supposedly going to make an appearance selling autographs at a London Comic Con later this month, that's a quicker turnaround than Tom Baker.
 
Mr. 0 said:
I think I found what your'e talking about:
https://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2018-03-19/doctor-who-christopher-eccleston-russell-t-davies/

I've heard in different places (including a video where he touches upon it to a class in an acting workshop he's at) that he bailed because he didn't like the way the crew was treated behind the scenes by the higher ups and didn't want to deal with that. The higher-ups were pissed off because he more or less gave them gold (say what you will about Series 1 but it wouldn't gave gone past that if it wasn't any good) and was bailing after only one season. I didn't know he had problems with RTD, that's actually surprising to me.

Give it time, he'll come around. He's supposedly going to make an appearance selling autographs at a London Comic Con later this month, that's a quicker turnaround than Tom Baker.
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He strikes me as a self-important diva. His contributions to the show exist, but he's nowhere near as good of an actor as he seems to think he is in interviews and such.
 
Mr. 0 said:
The Eighth Doctor - The Time War 2 is out today.
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I pre-ordered it so it dropped into my downloads yesterday, but I prefer to listen to it on CD so I'm waiting for those to arrive which could take a day or two.

Excited though - can't wait to see what they do with the Twelve.
 
TheImportantFart said:
I pre-ordered it so it dropped into my downloads yesterday, but I prefer to listen to it on CD so I'm waiting for those to arrive which could take a day or two.

Excited though - can't wait to see what they do with the Twelve.
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You'll have to let me know if it's worth getting. (funds are a bit low at the moment)
 
Speaking of people who formerly played the Doctor being divas:
http://comicbook.com/tv-shows/2018/07/11/doctor-who-tom-baker-50th-anniversary-comments/

To hear Tom tell it, he was treated like shit by literally everyone on the set of the 50th anniversary episode *except* Matt Smith, and I don't buy it for a minute. (For the record, I don't doubt that Smith treated him well... He seems like a massive fan of classic who, and class act to boot.)

But.. if *nothing* else, Tennant also seems like a class act, and probably even more than Smith is also mega fan of classic who, to the point where I always like to pretend that his dialogue in "Time Crash," where he's sperging out over his (now) father-in law was improvised from his own personal opinions... (and hell, he did end up marrying the dude's daughter...)
For that matter, Moffat himself (for all his faults) is also massive fan of classic who... probably the reason why he asked Baker to be a part of the 50th in the first place, even though it was a totally unnecessary, and frankly canon-breaking cameo.

Tom Baker is, to this day, *still* viewed by many (though admittedly, not me) as being "the best Doctor of all time," I find it extremely difficult to believe that he was treated badly by *anyone* on the set of the 50th, let alone everyone but Matt Smith.

I find it much more likely that he was just salty that the (now inexplicably 30+ years older) 4th Doctor wasn't the singular focus of the 50th anniversary, and instead just a blink and you'll miss it cameo at the end... (Even though he personally decided to bow out of more than one anniversary special where he would have *definitely* had a larger role than other doctors.)
 
UnKillFill said:
I find it much more likely that he was just salty that the (now inexplicably 30+ years older) 4th Doctor wasn't the singular focus of the 50th anniversary, and instead just a blink and you'll miss it cameo at the end...
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He's in his mid-80s, dude.
His mobility is shit and he records all his Big Finish stuff at a studio near his house. He was leaning on his cane the entire scene. Even Tom Baker isn't so deluded as to think something like that was even feasible.

If there's any truth to that story, then for all we know his treatment could have been influenced by his behavior back during his tenure on DW coming back on him (i.e. they've read/heard/been told horror stories).

Or he could have been miffed at the fact that he was most likely ignored until it was time to do his bit before he went home, IDK.
 
Mr. 0 said:
He's in his mid-80s, dude.
His mobility is shit and he records all his Big Finish stuff at a studio near his house. He was leaning on his cane the entire scene. Even Tom Baker isn't so deluded as to think something like that was even feasible.

If there's any truth to that story, then for all we know his treatment could have been influenced by his behavior back during his tenure on DW coming back on him (i.e. they've read/heard/been told horror stories).

Or he could have been miffed at the fact that he was most likely ignored until it was time to do his bit before he went home, IDK.
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I concede your points that he is both old and barely mobile, I really do not see what difference that makes to that news story though...

Do you seriously believe that the almost universally recognized "best" doctor would really be treated as terrible as Baker claims he was treated...? (Unless he was a true terror on set, which I actually do not discount... It wouldn't be so far from what I've heard of him.)
 
Here's a (shaky) video of the SDCC panel. I haven't watched it through yet, but once I do I'll try and bullet point the new info for you guys.
- Jodie seems cool but damn am I annoyed by her voice. Hopefully it's a grower.
- No returning monsters/characters
- 13 described by Jodie as "a pillar of hope". More descriptors: "A lot of energy, a lot of childish wonder, energetic, can get angry, very playful, fidgety, quite fidgety, (not a lot of stillness I'm afraid), a joy for life, loves new experiences". 3 words to describe Jodie's doctor from each cast member-- Tosin Cole says ""young"" (Jodie asks him to say that), bubbly, and "funny" (Jodie also asks him to say that). Mandip Gill says humorous, witty, and energetic. Bradley Walsh says "really flippin awesome". Matt Strevens [producer?] says effervescent and kickass,
- With all the new companions, it's an "ensemble piece".

[WIP]
 
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Oddly enough I actually ran into one of the upcoming companions, Mandip Gill, tonight in a local supermarket.
Surprisingly, she didn't say much, but she did allow me to take a pic for proof.
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Yeah I totally changed my opinion, Series 11 won't be nearly as shitty as I previously hypothesized. >.>
 
Looks alright. Glad to see they aren’t hitting the identity politics bottle.

Yet.

If they actually manage to keep the Daleks out of this series I’ll be seriously impressed. I’ve heard a rumour that due to an agreement with Terry Nation’s estate (who sound like utter dicks) the Daleks have to appear once every series which is why they show up in random cameos in series they “won’t be appearing in”. Not sure if it’s true, but it would make sense.
 
UnKillFill said:
He strikes me as a self-important diva. His contributions to the show exist, but he's nowhere near as good of an actor as he seems to think he is in interviews and such.
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He's very much the artiste, but you run into that a lot in actors. More's the pity- if he could have swallowed his pride and come back for the special, he would have walked away with it. Given all the build-up, I was really hoping for Eccleston to come back. Hurt was great, but the fact that they had to retcon in a new Doctor just to fill the slot sticks in the craw a bit. (Is there a reason they couldn't have McGann do it?)

As far as the 13th Doctor, I'm sticking with ScrumpMonkey's prediction, reproduced below. I'm sure the actors themselves are lovely people, but I frankly have zero confidence in the people behind the camera, or the ones calling the shots at the BBC. After the botched home abortion that was Series 10, I'm officially off this bus unless/until I hear that it's significantly improved.

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Krokodil Overdose said:
Is there a reason they couldn't have McGann do it?
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Apparently Moffat said he wasn’t satisfied with the Eighth Doctor being the one who fought in the Time War. Which as others have pointed out is bullshit, because if Moffat had listened to the audio dramas he would know that the Eighth Doctor went through so much shit, particularly in the finale of the Eighth Doctor Adventures, that it actually makes sense he would want to torch the shit out of the Daleks.

I know the Big Finish stuff is extra-curricular material, but even then McGann’s tenure is such a massive blank canvas to most people I think they could easily have bought him going off to fight the Time War. Certainly no bigger pill to swallow than the fact there’s a whole other Doctor we never knew about.
 
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