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Blacklight said:
You think he's going to go back in time to Buck Breaking days and he's going to watch as black men are raped by racist plantation owners and cry a single gay rainbow tear?
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I would give everything to have nasneed write an episode about buck breaking as a pure historical with RTD's wackiness making it even more ridiculous
 
Steelmanning this a bit. RTD's run of Who was popular because it was bright, fun, and poppy -- he hired Billie Piper as a companion and did a Weakest Link/Big Brother parody, fer chrissakes, he's a total pop culture fiend. It's also been rumored for some time that Davies has been pretty pissed seeing what a hash the BBC made of NuWho after his departure. If I was him, and I knew the internal politics (and Politics) of the BBC would never allow anyone to cast a plain white dude in the lead, but I had to fix the show and get folks back on board, there are worse ways to go than to cast a black gay male to silence the woke wammens and turn the show into the Fabulous Pop Culture Sci Fi Hour with a young, charismatic lead, giving you plenty of shielding to quietly bring back the wackjob scifi and goofball ideas that the show should be wallowing in.

This is the guy, after all, who kept lying to the BBC about what he was up to in the early days and pretended to take their notes (including "forgetting" to kill the Big Finish audiobook license and "forgetting" to cancel and reboot the the monthly mag), eventually shutting them up by delivering a top rated money-printing machine, so it's not outside the realm of possibility that he's taking the only road available to save the show from continuing as the Woke, Dour Lecture Hour With a Magic Phone Booth In It. Not copium, just thinking it through. The more I watch that clip video above of the actor in that teen dramedy, the more I think, yeah, this guy is supposed to bring the Fun back to the TARDIS, and in probably the only way the Karen Council at the BBC would allow.

Or I'm wrong and the show is going down in glorious flames.
 
alright fine said:
Steelmanning this a bit. RTD's run of Who was popular because it was bright, fun, and poppy -- he hired Billie Piper as a companion and did a Weakest Link/Big Brother parody, fer chrissakes, he's a total pop culture fiend. It's also been rumored for some time that Davies has been pretty pissed seeing what a hash the BBC made of NuWho after his departure. If I was him, and I knew the internal politics (and Politics) of the BBC would never allow anyone to cast a plain white dude in the lead, but I had to fix the show and get folks back on board, there are worse ways to go than to cast a black gay male to silence the woke wammens and turn the show into the Fabulous Pop Culture Sci Fi Hour with a young, charismatic lead, giving you plenty of shielding to quietly bring back the wackjob scifi and goofball ideas that the show should be wallowing in.

This is the guy, after all, who kept lying to the BBC about what he was up to in the early days and pretended to take their notes (including "forgetting" to kill the Big Finish audiobook license and "forgetting" to cancel and reboot the the monthly mag), eventually shutting them up by delivering a top rated money-printing machine, so it's not outside the realm of possibility that he's taking the only road available to save the show from continuing as the Woke, Dour Lecture Hour With a Magic Phone Booth In It. Not copium, just thinking it through. The more I watch that clip video above of the actor in that teen dramedy, the more I think, yeah, this guy is supposed to bring the Fun back to the TARDIS, and in probably the only way the Karen Council at the BBC would allow.

Or I'm wrong and the show is going down in glorious flames.
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Find it funny/weird because I remember RTD era for having some of the best dark episodes, like Midnight or Family of Blood. The pop culture stuff was the most grating part of the RTD era for me. I seem to be the only person who liked Waters of Mars so I guess my taste is edgelord though lol.

I hope he doesn't go full woke. RTD era Dr. Who straddled the line between leftism and moderation, and so wasn't too insufferable. He can write good plots when he gets serious, and maybe salvage the show.
 
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The Valeyard said:
This "best of" compilation with Ncuti Gatwa as Eric in Sex Education has convinced me not to bother with the show.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZoEsh6Wo0DU
Hopefully he doesn't play the Doctor as a faggot.
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Speak for yourself. I want him to play the doctor as SUPER gay. Preferably a power bottom. Hide your plungers and Gunsticks Daleks!

Blacklight said:
You think he's going to go back in time to Buck Breaking days and he's going to watch as black men are raped by racist plantation owners and cry a single gay rainbow tear?
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Have you seen him talk? He is going to volunteer to be buck broken. As often as possible.

Invisible Crane said:
Yo

You are racist. I'm not suprised the subhuman scum here are trashing the news about the new doctor. I'm dreading what toxic incel manbabies (Quartering, Geeks + Gamers, Heel Vs Babyface, Ryan Kinell, Critical Drinker, etc) are gonna say
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Hopefully the new season of Doctor Who features lots and lots of anal sex to really stick it to those homophobic Youtube incels. To really drive home Doctor Who is gay. Deal with it incels.
 
alright fine said:
Steelmanning this a bit. RTD's run of Who was popular because it was bright, fun, and poppy -- he hired Billie Piper as a companion and did a Weakest Link/Big Brother parody, fer chrissakes, he's a total pop culture fiend. It's also been rumored for some time that Davies has been pretty pissed seeing what a hash the BBC made of NuWho after his departure. If I was him, and I knew the internal politics (and Politics) of the BBC would never allow anyone to cast a plain white dude in the lead, but I had to fix the show and get folks back on board, there are worse ways to go than to cast a black gay male to silence the woke wammens and turn the show into the Fabulous Pop Culture Sci Fi Hour with a young, charismatic lead, giving you plenty of shielding to quietly bring back the wackjob scifi and goofball ideas that the show should be wallowing in.

This is the guy, after all, who kept lying to the BBC about what he was up to in the early days and pretended to take their notes (including "forgetting" to kill the Big Finish audiobook license and "forgetting" to cancel and reboot the the monthly mag), eventually shutting them up by delivering a top rated money-printing machine, so it's not outside the realm of possibility that he's taking the only road available to save the show from continuing as the Woke, Dour Lecture Hour With a Magic Phone Booth In It. Not copium, just thinking it through. The more I watch that clip video above of the actor in that teen dramedy, the more I think, yeah, this guy is supposed to bring the Fun back to the TARDIS, and in probably the only way the Karen Council at the BBC would allow.

Or I'm wrong and the show is going down in glorious flames.
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RTD has REPEATEDLY stated that Chinball has done NOTHING wrong with the franchise and REPEATEDLY turned down offers to come back until they basically gave him 100% creative control and a huge cut of the merch rights by basically offloading the franchise to Davies's production company rather than doing everything in house as they normally do.

Also, RTD's Rose adaptation was even woker than normal and filled with Torrie/Brexit bashing and retconning Rose and Mickey's entire blink and miss circle of friends to being all trannies and gay folk.

He's going to double down on Chinball's woke shit purely out of spite, even though he has a financial motive NOT to do so. Chinball owes his entire career to RTD's patronage and RTD largely feels that Chinball being forced out was a crime and that it's his duty as his friend, to continue his trajectory for the franchise. Especially since I'm sure RTD knew that if he didn't take the deal, that Moffatt would and RTD and Moffatt don't really get along very much due to their dueling egos.

And best we can hope for, is RTD bringing Donna Noble back for a season maybe, for pure fanservice and to have Donna yell at "racist Doctor Who fans" by having her fuck the new Black Doctor and remind people that Donna is a coalburner and that if you hate the Black Doctor, you also hate Donna "Racemixing" Noble too.

Commander X said:
I'd rather watch classic Dr. Who than this NuWho nonsense.
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I've recently been getting through my backlog of unwatched Classic Who DVDs (I bought a huge lot of them a couple of years back from a place that was doing estate sales on Ebay). Really wish they would reissue the Blu-Ray season sets on regular DVD as even with reissues, a lot of the OOP Classic Doctor Who DVDs still go for a huge amount of money.
 
Gisvarg said:
I hope he doesn't go full woke. RTD era Dr. Who straddled the line between leftism and moderation, and so wasn't too insufferable.
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I'd like to agree with you, but having rewatched the show over the last year or so, RTD's original run is every bit as woke as Chibnall's. And if you doubt that, then just ask yourself this - what do you think the reaction would be if Chibnall introduced a character like Jack Harkness? And what do you think the reaction would be if it was announced that character was getting his/her/their/xir own spin-off show?

I think RTD managed to get away with the political content of his original run because most conservatives hadn't yet developed a zero-tolerance policy for SJW bullshit; at the time the general attitude was more one of "Hehe, look at those silly liberals getting worked up about gay rights, while we conservatives are focusing on REAL problems like terrorism". That and the fact that the Ninth and Tenth Doctor eras were admittedly much better-written and faster-paced, meaning that the preaching was just an mildly irritating blip in otherwise good episodes.
 
HarryHowler said:
I'd like to agree with you, but having rewatched the show over the last year or so, RTD's original run is every bit as woke as Chibnall's. And if you doubt that, then just ask yourself this - what do you think the reaction would be if Chibnall introduced a character like Jack Harkness? And what do you think the reaction would be if it was announced that character was getting his/her/their/xir own spin-off show?

I think RTD managed to get away with the political content of his original run because most conservatives hadn't yet developed a zero-tolerance policy for SJW bullshit; at the time the general attitude was more one of "Hehe, look at those silly liberals getting worked up about gay rights, while we conservatives are focusing on REAL problems like terrorism". That and the fact that the Ninth and Tenth Doctor eras were admittedly much better-written and faster-paced, meaning that the preaching was just an mildly irritating blip in otherwise good episodes.
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I guess with the gay thing, it never got too intrusive or preachy. It just happened. Which might count as woke but I consider woke this higher than though enlightened attitude towards lefty progressive topics to prove a point. Which at least from what I remember never happened.

I only remember 3 cases of gay characters: Jack Harkness, this one couple in Gridlock (Which was an episode I barely watched), and Sky from Midnight (Who was a villain and it's just mentioned vaguely). Jack Harkness was portrayed as a degenerate who was constantly wrangled by others to stop flirting with everyone. I never watched Torchwood so maybe the very gay shit goes on there.

As for other "woke things," I do know it constantly jabs at Tony Blair and George Bush but honestly that's not very woke, Tony Blair is a piece of shit human being and only corporate centrist and woke-left types refuse to understand that. Conservatives are coming to understand Bush was a godawful president.

Harriet Jones was labour party IIRC but the way she was portrayed wasn't too slanted against the right. In Aliens in London her appearance mocked bureaucratic nonsense and conservatives would agree bureaucracy sucks.

Interracial couples in Doctor Who never bothered me and I would never consider it woke. In fact one of these pairings ended up with the black guy being the villain and trying to kill Donna. That wouldn't happen nowadays.

I haven't watched the show in years. I last watched it when I was like 15 and I still was in my enlightened classical liberal Sargonite phase, so maybe I'd be more intolerant to the leftist stuff in it nowadays.

Plus my favorite episodes (Aside for Midnight) tended to not be written by RTD, my favorite episodes were Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit and Human Nature/Family of Blood and I never particularly liked the poppy upbeat RTD episodes (AKA why Midnight is my favorite RTD episode). So my experience might be colored by non-RTD episodes too.
 
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Gisvarg said:
I haven't watched the show in years. I last watched it when I was like 15 and I still was in my enlightened classical liberal Sargonite phase, so maybe I'd be more intolerant to the leftist stuff in it nowadays.
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It really is sad that the only non-degenerate pairing in nu-Who is Amy and Rory. (or maybe Rose and the Doctor, but the Doctor is a black woman so technically Rose is practicing lesbian miscegenation)
 
MirrorNoir said:
RTD has REPEATEDLY stated that Chinball has done NOTHING wrong with the franchise and REPEATEDLY turned down offers to come back until they basically gave him 100% creative control and a huge cut of the merch rights by basically offloading the franchise to Davies's production company rather than doing everything in house as they normally do.

Also, RTD's Rose adaptation was even woker than normal and filled with Torrie/Brexit bashing and retconning Rose and Mickey's entire blink and miss circle of friends to being all trannies and gay folk.

He's going to double down on Chinball's woke shit purely out of spite, even though he has a financial motive NOT to do so. Chinball owes his entire career to RTD's patronage and RTD largely feels that Chinball being forced out was a crime and that it's his duty as his friend, to continue his trajectory for the franchise. Especially since I'm sure RTD knew that if he didn't take the deal, that Moffatt would and RTD and Moffatt don't really get along very much due to their dueling egos.

And best we can hope for, is RTD bringing Donna Noble back for a season maybe, for pure fanservice and to have Donna yell at "racist Doctor Who fans" by having her fuck the new Black Doctor and remind people that Donna is a coalburner and that if you hate the Black Doctor, you also hate Donna "Racemixing" Noble too.


I've recently been getting through my backlog of unwatched Classic Who DVDs (I bought a huge lot of them a couple of years back from a place that was doing estate sales on Ebay). Really wish they would reissue the Blu-Ray season sets on regular DVD as even with reissues, a lot of the OOP Classic Doctor Who DVDs still go for a huge amount of money.
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Moffat and RTD are close friends and have stated many, many times about how much they appreciate each other’s works. The whole thing about them supposedly not getting along is bullshit made up by Tumblrinas and sensationalists trying to pit the two eras together.
 
I guess NuHu was a ticking timebomb for political spergery since its inception given the creators, but it's a shame as a lot of episodes and scenes were so legitimately good. Even as the show got more and more glaringly preachy, reaching a boiling point in Season 10, it had really intense, emotional, and well written scenes. I loved Heavensent and actually kind of want to see The Doctor Falls from what I saw of it.
 
Stab You in the Back said:
It really is sad that the only non-degenerate pairing in nu-Who is Amy and Rory. (or maybe Rose and the Doctor, but the Doctor is a black woman so technically Rose is practicing lesbian miscegenation)
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Did you watch the Smith era? Amy CLEARLY wanted to fuck the Doctor/only settled for Rory and only the BBC saying "no, just no" kept Moffatt from fridging Rory and having Amy and the Doctor hook up (to the point that I have to think that the only reason River Song was brought back was to cockblock Amy as the Doctor's love interest).

Also Jack Harkness was a novelty, as gay characters were still relatively rare at the time on TV.
 
I still can't find myself able to give a shit that the new Doctor is literally a gay nigger from outer space... I can't find myself able to give a shit about current Doctor Who at all.
 
Heh. His new arch enemy will be Yakub creator whyties . Who will be in fact reincarnation of Massa.
Puddleduck said:
So first it got downgraded to Nurse Who ... Now Janitor Who?
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If he is now space janitor he should upgrade look of Tardis to match his new status
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Radola Gajda said:
Heh. His new arch enemy will be Yakub creator whyties . Who will be in fact reincarnation of Massa.

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Well considering how problematic it is to have a diverse and vibrant person of color use a police box as his vehicle given the connotations to the martyrdom of saint flloyd, maybe its time this unfortunate relic from the inferior pre-currentyear era was removed in favor of something more inclusive
 
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