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You aren’t going to get big names for the role unless they honestly love the show. Every nuWho actor was an unknown before taking on the role.

If anything the fact that keep goijng back to what’s known every time fans complain instead of staying the course is why the last several series of Who have been poor.

There will forever be something funny about Chibs writing Jodie as he did now that she is rightfully pointing out the core complaint from fans was she was not the doctor. Chibs literally wrote a character he himself would have bitched about and then had to course correct himself lmao
 
Is anyone still watching this shit? It's become totally unwatchable after Peter Capaldi. They massacred this show. Seasons 1-4 were the best, season 5 was still pretty good (In fact it features some of my favorite episodes of all time), but everything after has been slowly declining in quality and finally reached rock button after 9. Have they gotten to China yet?
 
It should be noted that Chinball was ALWAYS reviled as the worst Nu Who writer and Mark Gatis should have taken over...
Google tells me that these are the episodes of Nu-Who that Gay-tis wrote are...

The Unquiet Dead - Almost nothing of note happened in this episode. Charles Dickens was wasted in here, and its greatest crime was being boring. The most positive thing I can say about it is that it has a character named "Sneed" in it. But I didn't even notice that when I reviewed it here.

The Idiot's Lantern - Another mediocre episode that I have actually reviewed here...
It mostly features 10 and Rose treating a bona fide WW2 vet whom they didn't even know like a jackass in front of his family, while the villain plays discount Little Shop of Horrors in the background.

Victory of the Daleks - Pretty sure most people don't even like this one. I remember it as being mostly meh, one of the worst episodes of series 5, which I otherwise liked a lot. I didn't hate it, but it gave us the Mighty Morphin' Dalek Rangers meme...
Which were thankfully forgotten quickly.

Night Terrors - I have seen this one again (along with many other episodes of Doctor Who) recently within the past few months, and I literally do not remember that much about it. It's the one with the "creepy" dolls right? I can't even really shit talk it. It was so forgettable... But that's just about the worst thing you can say about an episode right? "Love and Monsters," was fucking trash, but I do remember it at least.

Cold War - I actually did like this one. Using the Ice Warriors as an allegory for the "Cold War" worked well for me. It helps that David Warner is always fantastic, and I like Duran Duran to boot.

The Crimson Horror - I didn't even remember that Gay-tis wrote this one. I do remember that the lesbian lizard lady abuses her "wife" pretty much any time that they're on screen together (even though that relationship doesn't even remotely make sense in the Victorian era, not really Gay-tis's fault, but this was another boring episode.) I've always heard that abuse between lesbian partners happens a lot... So much for my fantasy... So based? The most memorable part of this episode was Matt Smith bright red.
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I don't even remember why he's bright red here. My bad. Poison or something right?

Robot of Sherwood - This one was cute. It was actually kind of fun even. I liked it. The end result of it was hella dumb though. Once again, did not know Gay-tis wrote this.

Sleep No More - Wait, Gay-tis wrote the episode where eye boogers were the main threat? I hold this one in the same regard as @Judgeholden does that shitty moon episode in a similar season... This one was trash.

Empress of Mars - I haven't said this here before... I don't dislike Bill nearly as much now as I thought I did the first time. The show got really stupid during this part (History is a whit wash. Shame on you Capaldi.) This still wasn't a great episode though... But it was fine.
 
The Unquiet Dead - Almost nothing of note happened in this episode. Charles Dickens was wasted in here, and its greatest crime was being boring. The most positive thing I can say about it is that it has a character named "Sneed" in it. But I didn't even notice that when I reviewed it here.
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It's probably just nostalgia, but this is actually one of my favourite S1 episodes. I really like the guy playing Dickens here.

As for Gattis's other episodes:

- The Idiot's Lantern
I like The Wire as an antagonist and the time period is comfy, but it's an episode you either love or hate due to its levels of campiness.

- Victory of the Daleks
The colourful Daleks are neat and the actor playing Churchill does a good job, but otherwise it's a bit weak.

- Night Terrors
Creepy monsters, but that's about all it has going for it.

- Cold War & The Crimson Horror
Lumping these two together since this was when I stopped watching for a bit. Never seen them.

- Robot of Sherwood
Dumb fun. I'm a sucker for anything with Robin Hood and the ending with the man drawing a parallel between himself and The Doctor really works for me.

- Sleep No More
Utter garbage. I seem to recall I was in another tab and just listening to the episode in the background when it aired. The title is very ironic.

- Empress of Mars
This one doesn't tend to rate highly from what I've seen online, but I had a surprisingly good time with it.

tl;dr, his episodes are hit or miss and I prefer him as a supporting character e.g. The Brig's father.
 
Late af and I don't know how I lost the quote I was going to use but I think my hottest of takes is that a female doctor could work in theory if it existed (at least in the beginning) as a reflection of his own archetype. Like the soldier seen through the eyes of a civilian, a teacher through the eyes of a student, a parent through the eyes of a child.

You know how every legacy sequel has the new characters lecturing the ogs about how things are done nowadays? Do a flip of that, with hyper competent companions and allies that allow the doctor to go into some Jungian introspection about who she is and if she should still be around (for your meta shit) and then said allies make the plot happen due to their own hubris.

I concede I'm pretty much just pitching a more introspective even somber Missy but I would be down for it happening if it meant that it could put to rest that Whittaker failed because wahman and Gatwa is failing because ghey.
 
Is anyone still watching this shit? It's become totally unwatchable after Peter Capaldi. They massacred this show. Seasons 1-4 were the best, season 5 was still pretty good (In fact it features some of my favorite episodes of all time), but everything after has been slowly declining in quality and finally reached rock button after 9. Have they gotten to China yet?
Capaldi’s problem was bad writing and retreads. But his stand out episode is one of my favorites out of Nuwho. Heaven Sent may be the last great episode of Doctor Who and it’s been all downhill since then.

We saw the writing on the wall that the next doctor was going to be a woman when they turned The Master into Missy. And also that one timelord that regenerated into a bald black woman. Oh and Doctor Clara. We knew the direction that BBC wanted to take the show during Capaldi’s run.
 
Capaldi’s problem was bad writing and retreads. But his stand out episode is one of my favorites out of Nuwho. Heaven Sent may be the last great episode of Doctor Who and it’s been all downhill since then.

We saw the writing on the wall that the next doctor was going to be a woman when they turned The Master into Missy. And also that one timelord that regenerated into a bald black woman. Oh and Doctor Clara. We knew the direction that BBC wanted to take the show during Capaldi’s run.
Oh man I loved Heaven Sent, that and the Witch's Familiar. That was the last of the good doctor who episodes. Everything else was so forgettable. I quite liked Capaldi as the Doctor as well, but it doesn't matter how good of an actor you are if the writing sucks.

I did give Jodi the benefit of the doubt, I watched the first episode of her debut and was like hell no; I know where this is going, it's all downhill from here. And I was right.
 
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It's been five years to the day since Who has been officially dead to me.

I wanted to like Whittaker. I gave her a chance until the end of her first piss-poor season. I hated the fact that every future season would effectively be a sequel to this mess. But I foolishly gave her a second chance when her second season didn't totally suck. I was one of the rare few who didn't mind Orphan 55. Didn't like the Fat Black Doctor though, or re-destroying Gallifrey, but remained morbidly curious until the plot involving these resolved itself.

In hindsight, it was worse than even I could have expected.

Replacing my favourite character's childhood with a convoluted (and strangely anticlimactic) sob story in which he's an ugly nigger baby several different races of genderfluid space refugee was enough to kill what remained of my emotional investment in the show and ensure it stayed dead this time. From that point onward I only hate-watched Doctor Who and from then onward, I looked forward to the day the sordid thing got cancelled.

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(Personally, I liked it when Morbius Doctor #7 said "IT'S MORBIN' TIME" and morbed all over the timeline.)

But then a weird thing happened in the 2021 hiatus. I started actively looking forward to when I would get to hate-watch the new episodes. And when Flux finally aired, I made a drinking game out of it. The first Flux episode set the record for the most alcohol I've ever consumed in one night. And by the time that season wrapped up, even my lib friends and family had turned against it. It was glorious. (One of them liked Eve of the Daleks, though, which can never be forgiven.)

I kinda wanted the show to end there. It seemed a well-timed and deserved end. On the other hand, I wanted it to see what would happen if it just kept getting worse and worse so that everyone could see how awful it had become. And maybe, just maybe, the viewing figures would fail to reach even a single million.

RTD coming back had me worried that it could be a return to form but not good enough to make me like it again, which would have been the worst of both worlds. Everyone would like the show but me. It turns out I needn't have worried. Every RTD2 episode, bar one (Dot and Bubble), has turned out enjoyably awful. And now they tell me it's ending for good. It's been a long time coming, but a cancellation at this point feels bittersweet. It hurts all the more that, in the last five years, only two seasons (24 episodes, including specials) have aired for me to hate-watch.

Hopefully they make it count with Ncunti's final season and the spin-off that doesn't even sound interesting enough to be bad. The worse it gets, the more I enjoy it. But you don't really appreciate these things until they're gone.

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