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(for example: Season 1...doesn't contain An Unearthly Child whatsoever,
I think this was covered earlier in the thread somewhere but is that serial still stuck behind rights issues or something? That was supposedly the reason for its exclusion from streaming.

And the recreations don't count as intact episodes, which is why they're not on streaming.
 
so I went hunting for other places to find Classic Who without torrenting, and I stumbled upon this.
Someone linked the "Enemy of the World" serial from this channel the previous page. I believe the YouTube channel's videos are only viewable outside the UK.

The BBC's VOD service "BBC iPlayer" has all of the 26 classic seasons, including the animated reconstructions, The Five Doctors special and even the 90s movie as well. New-Who and RTD2-Who as well. Maybe there are some holes in the catalogue but I think everything except of course the junked episodes are there.

It's the inverse of the YouTube channel though where you need to connect with a British IP address, it'll ask you if you have a TV loisanse but if you say yes it'll just believe you lol.
 
Strange how subjective it can all be (and that's a good thing!). I love City of Death and would happily watch Lalla Ward wearing that hat skipping around on a video loop for days. Adding that to a story revolving around a proper sci fi concept and a villain that both has a rational and, from his perspective, empathetic motive while hamming it up not merely to ten but to twelve or thirteen and it's a winner. Also has Duggan; the man for whom the punch is the solution to any problem! And that's all despite not remembering the line you quoted at all.

Horror of Fang Rock on the other hand is one I'd have no hesitation in agreeing is great but is one I regarded as "not really a Dr Who story" but a little self contained gothic horror tale. It also gave an unusual bit of background exposition on a race we don't hear much about. Added bonus points for also linking to the Paul McGann/Sheridan Smith audio story "The Horror of Glam Rock" which itself has the bonus of not only Bernard Cribbens but Una Stubbs as well. What's not to like!
City of Death is a perfect storm situation as far as writing pedigree (Douglas Adams of Hitchhikers Guide wrote it), Lala and Tom's chemistry and them being at the height of their off camera relationship (before it turned to shit and they broke up), and JNT convincing the producers to let them shoot on location after she spent several weeks crunching numbers and finding proof that said filming on location would be cheaper than building all the sets needed to replicate Paris

And Horror of Fang Rock is beloved because it and Image Fendahl were was the grand finale of the much vaunted "Gothic Horror" era of the show under the Fourth Doctor. For those not aware, the fourth Doctor run was known for it's explicitly horror centric tone for a huge chunk of it. While this direction didn't get explicitly squashed until the Key to Time saga brought it firmly back into sci-fi territory, the show basically revelled in dark as fuck stories with horror themes and villains, as the show wanted to eradicate the UNIT family era vibe while not doing Sci-fi retreads of the first two Doctors.

I think this was covered earlier in the thread somewhere but is that serial still stuck behind rights issues or something? That was supposedly the reason for its exclusion from streaming.

And the recreations don't count as intact episodes, which is why they're not on streaming.
You are confusing animated reconstructions with telesnaps, which are fan made and exist I a legal gray zone.
 
You are confusing animated reconstructions with telesnaps, which are fan made and exist I a legal gray zone.
If you're calling Telesnaps fan made it's a little different than that. There was a guy who lived in London, and during the 1940s up until his death during the late 1960s had a business selling "Telesnaps", which were basically just photographs of a TV screen. The Telesnaps were made to be sold to the captured programme's actors and directors, otherwise they wouldn't have any visible record for their portfolio or just personally of their work. I think he sold these pictures to newspapers as well.

I believe he initially had written permission from the BBC to sell these, under some conditions. Which I don't think he really adhered to. The fucking BBC later tried to change the country's copyright law just because of this one guy. They actually succeeded but I don't think he ever stopped and I don't know if this is still in UK copyright law today.

Bro took screenshots and made it his career whilst being harassed by the creators, which was also his government. YouTube clip channels WISH they were as good as this OG.
 
I was watching Extremis the other day. it's sad that this nadir of the show's popularity is still way better than its been in years. Hell Chibnall Who while fucking garbage at least politically and aesthetically was less embarrassing to witness. At least we didnt have gay twerking doctor, wheelchair companion and trans black donna noble heboon
 
So you've heard of the Rushmore Trend right? Essentially it's a thought experiment/discourse generator within fanbases on social media to determine what would go on the Mount Rushmore related to that subject, what has the biggest cultural impact and legacy. So what would you guys label as the Mount Rushmore of Doctor actors?

For me I'd put money on it as Tennant, Tom Baker, Smith and Pertwee. Keep in mind these aren't my favorites, some people use Mount Rushmore memes to just put up their favorites, but to me just ranking who I like the best isn't nearly as interesting as trying to argue who I think factually is the most beloved and I think these four fit the bill. Baker and Tennant are the most iconic, give a guy a large scarf or blue suit or any suit with a brown coat and immediately they'll know what you're referencing. Smith is also iconic in this same way, the iconography is there but Smith also gets by on viewership and how much Superwholock transformed the show into a "thing" in America, that while it's gone now haunts it to this day almost as much as Tennantmania. Pertwee I think people could argue against, but I think Pertwee deserves to be on there because he did it almost as long as Baker did, presided amongst some of the most creatively memorable years of the show and recovered Doctor Who to such an extent that it was no longer an ageing sci-fi series and instead a ratings juggernaut like it was when The Daleks arrived

And for a cheeky follow up question: if there was an evil Mount Rushmore that detailed the ones that had either:
a) the least culture impact
or
b) the most cultural impact in a NEGATIVE way
what doctor actors would be there?

For me there's two versions of the ranking: I think in terms of lack of impact it has to be Davison, McCoy, McGann and Gatwa. I think the general public will - especially when the years pass from Ncuti's run - see these four as "filler" Doctors. They're the kind of thing that someone will think of when they think of how there's a ton of Doctors that only autistics can name all of. When it comes to negative impact it has to be Colin Baker, Capaldi, Whittaker and Gatwa. I'm double dipping with Gatwa because I really do think that he is unique in being both hated and forgettable, because while no one will revisit his seasons I think also he'll have the stink of being the guy who killed the show by being shit at it. Colin Baker essentially destabilized the ratings singlehandedly, not his fault but he's the most inarguable. Whittaker is obvious, but I hate that I have to put Capaldi here, but I feel that they were the people the general public associated with two things: being miscast, and then presided over a nadir of the show's quality that justified the accusations of being miscast. Now I don't agree with Capaldi being miscast, but Who's cultural popularity dropped steeply based off of Capaldi's casting alone because it gave women the ick and the darker tone and less consistent quality meant people were less likely to stick around to see the good stuff, I'd argue Capaldi's era is better than Smith's latter two seasons, but back then the show was filling its niche regardless of quality. "He's oogleh!" alienated the youth and women, which caused the casting of Jodie to try to get them back. Whittaker and Gatwa were even worse with this dragging down of the franchise, where you were getting shit scripts for actors who were only cast because of their identity and not their talent, along with deliberately antagonizing the gammons with every episode.
 
or me I'd put money on it as Tennant, Tom Baker, Smith and Pertwee.
1, 2, Baker and Tennant.

Hartnell because without the first there is no show. Troughton because without the second doctor pulling it off, the actor swap idea would have died and killed it off. Baker is obvious, I doubt anybody is going to argue against him. And Eccleston or Tennant successfully revived the show.

Heck at the rate Dr Who is going, we'll probably be able to just do a Rushmore of revivals. Hartnell, Eccleston, and 2 more within our lifetimes.
 
Colin Baker essentially destabilized the ratings singlehandedly, not his fault but he's the most inarguable.
I don't think that was personally Colin Baker's fault. I'm not going to praise his acting to the skies or anything, but JNT was in his terminal alcoholism spiral at this point and making a lot of stupid decisions, emblematic among them the most idiotic, ugly clown suit of a Doctor outfit ever.

It was even worse than the dumb decision to put those stupid question marks on Davison's outfit, which was otherwise okay. At least Davison's stint didn't actively wreck the Doctor. He was a relatively pleasant Doctor, unlike other beloved Doctors who could sometimes be sarcastic assholes. That's about all that can really be said about him, though.
 
I don't know how you have an "evil Rushmore" for Doctor Who without putting JNT (for killing it the first time) and Chinballs (for killing it the second time, even though it technically outlived him.) you could fill out another slot with Colin Baker, but I agree it isn't his fault. Instead I'd say the concept of the timeless child as a whole, and Jodie, because no good came from Jodie.
 
I don't know how you have an "evil Rushmore" for Doctor Who without putting JNT (for killing it the first time) and Chinballs (for killing it the second time, even though it technically outlived him.) you could fill out another slot with Colin Baker, but I agree it isn't his fault. Instead I'd say the concept of the timeless child as a whole, and Jodie, because no good came from Jodie.
If you want a Colin Baker slot, go with that BBC exec that was fucking his wife at the time. (Edit: I think his name was Michael Grade)
 
Btw speaking of I'm thinking of getting into Big Finish and am looking for a list of the good shit that isn't done by redditors. I want to listen to as much as possible of Hurt, McCoy, Colin Baker and Eccleston - obviously under the assumption that Hurt and Eccleston HAVE good material, I know Big Finish's best days are behind it - but I also want to cover the early "arcs" of Big Finish from their heyday. So if you guys have a list and recommendations for these doctors as well as ofc. piracy links i'd like to get dug in. I'd probably listen to all of McGann up to Dark Eyes, so what's the chronological order for that and when does that intersect with the main range? I know Spare Parts is a classic, so I'll make exception for that in my otherwise aversion to listening to anything with Davison (nothing against him I just find him boring), but is there an order for the Sixth Doctor's range that is all the good stuff and all the character development he has? And also I've heard the War Doctor stuff is way inferior to the War Master, but is any of it salvageable? I know apparently Eccleston's first range was crap and his follow ups improve

So is there a big list with links to all this shit in some kind of order and with a small review elsewhere in this thread? Or even on 4chan's /who/?
 
Btw speaking of I'm thinking of getting into Big Finish and am looking for a list of the good shit that isn't done by redditors. I want to listen to as much as possible of Hurt, McCoy, Colin Baker and Eccleston - obviously under the assumption that Hurt and Eccleston HAVE good material, I know Big Finish's best days are behind it - but I also want to cover the early "arcs" of Big Finish from their heyday. So if you guys have a list and recommendations for these doctors as well as ofc. piracy links i'd like to get dug in. I'd probably listen to all of McGann up to Dark Eyes, so what's the chronological order for that and when does that intersect with the main range? I know Spare Parts is a classic, so I'll make exception for that in my otherwise aversion to listening to anything with Davison (nothing against him I just find him boring), but is there an order for the Sixth Doctor's range that is all the good stuff and all the character development he has? And also I've heard the War Doctor stuff is way inferior to the War Master, but is any of it salvageable? I know apparently Eccleston's first range was crap and his follow ups improve

So is there a big list with links to all this shit in some kind of order and with a small review elsewhere in this thread? Or even on 4chan's /who/?
Search this thread and "Jago and Litefoot" with my name and you will see me constantly singing the praises of all of them. Trevor Baxter died before the woke shit got too bad at BF so it's pretty free of that too. The order for them is self-apparent.

 
Search this thread and "Jago and Litefoot" with my name and you will see me constantly singing the praises of all of them. Trevor Baxter died before the woke shit got too bad at BF so it's pretty free of that too. The order for them is self-apparent.
I actually saw that while searching through the thread. I'm interested for sure but i'm not that autistic yet, I want to listen to some audios that actually have The Doctor in them. But thank you for recommending and next time I rewatch Talons of Weng Chiang I'll consider dipping in if I want more. I just found out the cast of Remembrance have audios, and while I like that story unless they're really good I am not interested at all lol. Seems random
 
Btw speaking of I'm thinking of getting into Big Finish and am looking for a list of the good shit that isn't done by redditors. I want to listen to as much as possible of Hurt, McCoy, Colin Baker and Eccleston - obviously under the assumption that Hurt and Eccleston HAVE good material, I know Big Finish's best days are behind it - but I also want to cover the early "arcs" of Big Finish from their heyday. So if you guys have a list and recommendations for these doctors as well as ofc. piracy links i'd like to get dug in. I'd probably listen to all of McGann up to Dark Eyes, so what's the chronological order for that and when does that intersect with the main range? I know Spare Parts is a classic, so I'll make exception for that in my otherwise aversion to listening to anything with Davison (nothing against him I just find him boring), but is there an order for the Sixth Doctor's range that is all the good stuff and all the character development he has? And also I've heard the War Doctor stuff is way inferior to the War Master, but is any of it salvageable? I know apparently Eccleston's first range was crap and his follow ups improve

So is there a big list with links to all this shit in some kind of order and with a small review elsewhere in this thread? Or even on 4chan's /who/?
Anything with David Warner ( RIP ) in it is good. Especially his Unbound Doctor stuff.
 
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