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Well the Christmas Special was a reheated leftover of old ideas and tropes, reused sets, and so much fucking padding that it was a chore to watch.

Seriously, this Christmas Special has 1hr 15m of padding and 15m of anything any good.
 
Ponderous Pillock said:
Well the Christmas Special was a reheated leftover of old ideas and tropes, reused sets, and so much fucking padding that it was a chore to watch.

Seriously, this Christmas Special has 1hr 15m of padding and 15m of anything any good.
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Did Mark Gatiss’s character end up being the Brig like everyone suspected?
 
Haven't seen it or the majority of series 10, just gonna watch the regeneration on Youtube and return when it's Broadchurch Who.
 
I quite liked Twice Upon a Time but I wasn't the biggest fan of the First Doctor in it. Him being kinda sexist kinda came across to me as virtual signalling as to how far the show has come since the 60's and honestly I think it was a bit out of character. The only time this kind of worked was when he told the lie about 12 being his nurse as it felt to me as if it was written as he was trying to tell a credible story to Captain Lethbridge Stewart. I also kinda felt he was a bit too active in the story, given that from what stories I've seen of his (Unearthly Child, Aztecs, Edge of Destruction, Reign of Terror Planet of Giants, Dalek Invasion of Earth, The Gunfighter, Tenth Planet), he tends to let his friends do all of the work except for the last bit, and then take most of the credit.

Other notes are that giving the Doctor back his memories of Clara felt kinda cheap (but what do expect from Moffat) and that I was greatly hoping that Susan would even be mentioned. Given that 1 was involved in the story, I thought that 1 might've asked about what happened to her, assuming that he lived up to his promise to return.

In the positive I kinda liked how it was a low stakes episode, I liked the effort that was put into recreating the sets from The Tenth Planet, the time stop effect was pretty cool, and having the Christmas Armistice as like a plot-point felt like a natural way to put some history into the episode.

I can't believe that we have to wait until October for more episodes but I guess that's the way it is. Perhaps if this season does well enough we'll get consistent scheduling for a little while. I've already got a good feeling about Whittaker as the Doctor but I guess we'll have to see how it goes.
 
Cyborg Scars said:
I quite liked Twice Upon a Time but I wasn't the biggest fan of the First Doctor in it. Him being kinda sexist kinda came across to me as virtual signalling as to how far the show has come since the 60's and honestly I think it was a bit out of character. The only time this kind of worked was when he told the lie about 12 being his nurse as it felt to me as if it was written as he was trying to tell a credible story to Captain Lethbridge Stewart. I also kinda felt he was a bit too active in the story, given that from what stories I've seen of his (Unearthly Child, Aztecs, Edge of Destruction, Reign of Terror Planet of Giants, Dalek Invasion of Earth, The Gunfighter, Tenth Planet), he tends to let his friends do all of the work except for the last bit, and then take most of the credit.

Other notes are that giving the Doctor back his memories of Clara felt kinda cheap (but what do expect from Moffat) and that I was greatly hoping that Susan would even be mentioned. Given that 1 was involved in the story, I thought that 1 might've asked about what happened to her, assuming that he lived up to his promise to return.

In the positive I kinda liked how it was a low stakes episode, I liked the effort that was put into recreating the sets from The Tenth Planet, the time stop effect was pretty cool, and having the Christmas Armistice as like a plot-point felt like a natural way to put some history into the episode.

I can't believe that we have to wait until October for more episodes but I guess that's the way it is. Perhaps if this season does well enough we'll get consistent scheduling for a little while. I've already got a good feeling about Whittaker as the Doctor but I guess we'll have to see how it goes.
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Did she say anything in the episode?
 
2odastream said:
Did she say anything in the episode?
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Whittaker literally only said "Brilliant" which I think was in regards to her new form. I really liked her confidence and cheeriness I guess. In along with having a TARDIS team (as opposed to a single companion) I have a feeling that we might get a Doctor that has a close relationship with their companions along with not being mopey.
Still, The Doctor does tend to not be quite who they'll be immediately after regeneration.
 
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The first image of Jodie Whittaker in costume as The Thirteenth Doctor has been released, and well...

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Mork and Mindy? whoops some already said it

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Cyborg Scars said:
Whittaker literally only said "Brilliant" which I think was in regards to her new form. I really liked her confidence and cheeriness I guess. In along with having a TARDIS team (as opposed to a single companion) I have a feeling that we might get a Doctor that has a close relationship with their companions along with not being mopey.
Still, The Doctor does tend to not be quite who they'll be immediately after regeneration.
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Oh good, Moffat didn't fucking ruin it with unfunny jokes.

I wanted to ask because I only skimmed some freeze frames and noticed that she didn't have any talky bits. Kind of a waste, but that's how the show's been since Planet of the Spiders.
 
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AnAspieWithAVengeance said:
Caught the last twenty minutes and was bored throughout. Moffat had totally sucked the energy out of Dr Who during his reign. Look at Series 5 & 10 and you'll see a huge difference in quality.

I think its safe to say that despite his problems, RTD was the superior showrunner.
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I noted to myself recently that the gay guy was better at writing straight romance than the straight guy was at writing gay romance... or anything, really.

Fingers crossed for Chinballs.
 
2odastream said:
I noted to myself recently that the gay guy was better at writing straight romance than the straight guy was at writing gay romance... or anything, really.

Fingers crossed for Chinballs.
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He's just a better writer in general. Plus he's much more polite and nicer in interviews. No ego whatsoever, which is becoming a rare thing these days with creative personalities.

Moffat reeked of ego, and it was so clear to see. I hope Chibnall is a decent man, because sadly that's part of the job nowadays with the internet.

Chris Chibnall's contribution to Who has been lackluster sadly, but his Torchwood stuff is good. He wrote most of the episodes on that show and the majority turned out well, so there's hope.
 
AnAspieWithAVengeance said:
He's just a better writer in general. Plus he's much more polite and nicer in interviews. No ego whatsoever, which is becoming a rare thing these days with creative personalities.

Moffat reeked of ego, and it was so clear to see. I hope Chibnall is a decent man, because sadly that's part of the job nowadays with the internet.

Chris Chibnall's contribution to Who has been lackluster sadly, but his Torchwood stuff is good. He wrote most of the episodes on that show and the majority turned out well, so there's hope.
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Also Broadchurch, I heard that was good. The show's basically becoming Broadchurch 2.0 with the casting.

After the casting announcement, I asked a relative who's seen the show "Is Jodie Whittaker funny?" Apparently she's really funny, so no worries there.
 
Sable said:
I dunno, the Brig would end up being a little to old if he were born before 1914.

Special was...alright I guess?

Bollocks to the Clara thing though.
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Well, assuming they're the same birthdays as the actors (as usually happens for companions etc) then you're right. Brig's Grandfather.


2odastream said:
Also Broadchurch, I heard that was good. The show's basically becoming Broadchurch 2.0 with the casting.

After the casting announcement, I asked a relative who's seen the show "Is Jodie Whittaker funny?" Apparently she's really funny, so no worries there.
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Broadchurch was part of the UK's flirtation with Scandi-Noir dramas and Scandi-Crime which became very in vogue at the time a few years ago. Broadchurch's first season set the bar ultra-high on how to do it and the second season where it was more about the aftermath was a very clever idea to follow through on as well. It's really only one of two such things the UK pumped out at the time I will really watch (the other is The Fall with Gillian Anderson and Jamie Dornan).

She was definitely one of the stronger performances in an already heavily studded cast (Arthur Darvill, David Tennant and David Bradley starred) and she definitely has the range to pull it off.

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Looking at the "Tardis Team" that they're going with it's got Chibnall written all over it, he wants to drag a lot of Torchwood elements back into the Dr Who series proper where several characters from the Cardiff team were well developed and well rounded.

It also has enough of a range in the casting that should hit most of the "boxes" that the BBC lay down to meet their obligations.

Hence far more safe looking castings. Also far more Northern feeling since the primary production centres of the BBC have now moved to Wales and Manchester.

Someone as big in the UK as Bradley Walsh being cast (Law and Order: UK, Tonight at the London Palladium, The Chase) is going to be a huge boon to the show. Walsh can be a solid, serious actor when called for, and a complete prat fall straight man goof when needs be. A good, safe casting choice to appeal to families.

Mandip Gill is another good, solid seeming choice. She did 3 years in the soap Hollyoaks (designed to appeal to a teen/young adult crowd) before her roles became a little more spotty but has a reccuring role in the BBC Birmingham's "Jewel in the crown" production of Doctors a day time soap that has surprisingly high ratings despite being on in the middle of the day.

The only one I don't know much about is Tostin Cole, who starred in the shortlived BBC Three attempt to make a "yoof wing" to Eastenders with E20 which was a fucking disaster from start to finish and lasted barely a year. He did however get his own plotline in Season 5 of "Hollyoaks Later" which is a once a year spinoff of the same Drama Gill also worked on that's generally well received as it does what Torchwood was designed to do, more adult themes.

Basically all the elements are there, solid people at the top (Chibnall's joined by Matt Stevens who did An Adventure In Time and Space) with a very solid looking cast.

Just depends on how much BBC Diversity Officers now hack away at it.
 
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