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Famous DW fan Ian Levine now has his own thread, provided by yours truly.

In other news, there's a contest being held to get invited to the series 11 premiere, if any of you are up to that.
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I'm going "Sonic Spatula", hope I win.
 
2odastream said:
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Famous DW fan Ian Levine now has his own thread, provided by yours truly.

In other news, there's a contest being held to get invited to the series 11 premiere, if any of you are up to that.
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I'm going "Sonic Spatula", hope I win.
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I've mellowed out a bit on the idea of a female doctor. I still think it was a fucking terrible idea... It's been done before seceral times, and it always devolves into a farcical shit show
Every.
Fucking.(Very end of that one)
Time.(That last one was written by Moffat himself.)

I have no faith at all in the shows current writers to write a compelling female doctor (theyre going to have to walk on eggshells to avoid offending the snowflakes too, which is just terrible for any media to do.) But eh, ill check out the first few episodes at least.
 
UnKillFill said:
I've mellowed out a bit on the idea of a female doctor. I still think it was a fucking terrible idea... It's been done before seceral times, and it always devolves into a farcical shit show
Every.
Fucking.(Very end of that one)
Time.(That last one was written by Moffat himself.)

I have no faith at all in the shows current writers to write a compelling female doctor (theyre going to have to walk on eggshells to avoid offending the snowflakes too, which is just terrible for any media to do.) But eh, ill check out the first few episodes at least.
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The only way that Whittaker as the Doctor will work out is if they don't make a big deal in show about her being a woman and just take the writing approach of a Doctor that happens to be a woman instead of Woman Doctor TM. And really, thinking about it, it shouldn't be that hard. Moffat's not head writer so he can't shit it up with his, well, bullshit; from what I've heard Chibnall seems a decent enough writer (though he wrote some of the most average episodes of Doctor Who) and given his success with Broardchurch he might get away with minimal pounding from the BBC.
I guess the biggest potential problem in her character is what you mentioned. Walking on eggshells to not offend the snowflakes. No matter what the writers do the snowflakes will be annoyed as they can never take anything less than 100% progressiveness as they always need a battle to fight. This is highly optimistic of me but I think that they might realise this and not invest too much in that side of the fan base.
 
Couldn't find my phone. I'd probably act :autism: around a celebrity anyway.
 
Cyborg Scars said:
The only way that Whittaker as the Doctor will work out is if they don't make a big deal in show about her being a woman and just take the writing approach of a Doctor that happens to be a woman instead of Woman Doctor TM.
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Not gonna happen.

Here's what I think will happen though: The first few episodes will have massive, probably even record viewership. (Largely due to idiot social justards such as this one here: )
(Side note.. Jeez this show looks like it went to shit since I stopped watching it.)

But as the show goes on, most of them will realize that they weren't ever really sci-fi fans to begin with, and they've already done their duty supporting "#feminism" so the numbers will steadily drop off as the series progresses. And as the show will undoubtedly still continue to be just as poorly written as it has been (Only Moffat left, the rest of the shitty writers are still there), maybe even worse, I have a feeling a lot of long time fans will also get fed up with the social justard pandering and stop watching. (Not counting the ones who already left because woman doctor.)
 
Honestly I can tell the first few episodes will be popular with the SJW crowd due to the anti Moffat danger hairs from Tumblr flocking to it (even though most of them claim to stop watching the show when he took over they spent the entirety of his run hate watching it. The amount of salt Tumblr produced while Moffat was show runner was glorious.) Once the honeymoon period for Chibnall ends and the appeal that he is Not Moffat wears off they'll turn on Chibnall and start writing essays on how he is an awful racist/sexist/homophobe/etc. It's a vicious cycle.

It doesn't help that there are some Tumblr users who suck up the staff members. One such example is Whovian Feminism. They spent their early years screaming about Moffat being the devil because he didn't have any black or gay characters in his episodes like Davies did. Eventually they did a full 180 of their opinion on Moffat. I wouldn't be surprised if they had some sort of influence on the more SJW aspects of series 10. They conduct a whole ton of interviews and are awfully cozy with the director Rachel Talalay.
 
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UnKillFill said:
Not gonna happen.

Here's what I think will happen though: The first few episodes will have massive, probably even record viewership. (Largely due to idiot social justards such as this one here: )https://youtube.com/watch?v=yH8tdHcbHos (Side note.. Jeez this show looks like it went to shit since I stopped watching it.)

But as the show goes on, most of them will realize that they weren't ever really sci-fi fans to begin with, and they've already done their duty supporting "#feminism" so the numbers will steadily drop off as the series progresses. And as the show will undoubtedly still continue to be just as poorly written as it has been (Only Moffat left, the rest of the shitty writers are still there), maybe even worse, I have a feeling a lot of long time fans will also get fed up with the social justard pandering and stop watching. (Not counting the ones who already left because woman doctor.)
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Sucks that you're gonna be right, man.

The one possible thing that might make the writing not as bad is that I remember reading something about Chibnall wanting to start a writers room. This could mean that as a group they could work out a satisfying arc and have better episodes but it'd likely mean that the shit would just spread and there'd not even be the occasional gem.

I better start preparing for the reboot in like 20 years as the latter is much more likely.
 
To quote @Ponderous Pillock from a while back:
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Looking at the "Tardis Team" that they're going with it's got Chibnall written all over it, he wants to drag a lot of Torchwood elements back into the Dr Who series proper where several characters from the Cardiff team were well developed and well rounded.

It also has enough of a range in the casting that should hit most of the "boxes" that the BBC lay down to meet their obligations.

Hence far more safe looking castings. Also far more Northern feeling since the primary production centres of the BBC have now moved to Wales and Manchester.

Someone as big in the UK as Bradley Walsh being cast (Law and Order: UK, Tonight at the London Palladium, The Chase) is going to be a huge boon to the show. Walsh can be a solid, serious actor when called for, and a complete prat fall straight man goof when needs be. A good, safe casting choice to appeal to families.

Mandip Gill is another good, solid seeming choice. She did 3 years in the soap Hollyoaks (designed to appeal to a teen/young adult crowd) before her roles became a little more spotty but has a reccuring role in the BBC Birmingham's "Jewel in the crown" production of Doctors a day time soap that has surprisingly high ratings despite being on in the middle of the day.

The only one I don't know much about is Tostin Cole, who starred in the shortlived BBC Three attempt to make a "yoof wing" to Eastenders with E20 which was a fucking disaster from start to finish and lasted barely a year. He did however get his own plotline in Season 5 of "Hollyoaks Later" which is a once a year spinoff of the same Drama Gill also worked on that's generally well received as it does what Torchwood was designed to do, more adult themes.

Basically all the elements are there, solid people at the top (Chibnall's joined by Matt Stevens who did An Adventure In Time and Space) with a very solid looking cast.

Just depends on how much BBC Diversity Officers now hack away at it.
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TL;DR: the talent is all there, it's just the BBC's fault if it crashes and burns.

I don't think DW will get canned anyway, I expect Dalek merch still sells.
 
2odastream said:
To quote @Ponderous Pillock from a while back:

TL;DR: the talent is all there, it's just the BBC's fault if it crashes and burns.

I don't think DW will get canned anyway, I expect Dalek merch still sells.
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The talent has (at least somewhat) been there for a while mate. Smith and Capaldi were both brilliant in their roles, its the writing that let them down.
 
So i never actually watched oldwho, are there any good/easy ways to watch them or is it more effort than its worth?
 
If you're willing to pay for a streaming service, Britbox has a LOT of the classic series on it. Downside - Britbox is pretty much just a bunch of british programs so if you're not into that I don't know if one series alone is worth $6.99 monthly to you. I've noticed a lot of libraries collecting some old who over the last few years so you could try your local library too for freebies. as for free bootleg links, i've run across some full episode collections on dailymotion from time to time, but nothing consistent.

as for worth the effort? some of it is, but there's a LOT to slog through and it really depends on what you're looking for entertainment wise. the tom baker (4th doc) stuff is pretty solid, has a wide range of story types and styles, and is usually the easiest to find since he was in the role for 8 years. trial of a time lord with colin baker (6th doc, and it's in 14 parts) is always pretty standard viewing for most classic fans - it has it's high points but to me isn't really anything to write home about. patrick troughton (2nd doc) is so hard to find since most of his episodes are missing, and his stories were hit and miss as well but some were, imo really good.
 
PLB said:
So i never actually watched oldwho, are there any good/easy ways to watch them or is it more effort than its worth?
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I couldn't tell you the best/easiest way to watch old who (unless you happen to be a pirate). As for whether or not it's worth the effort, I will say that the pacing of old who (especially the first two doctors) is VERY slow. There are entire serials that could easily be halved in length without losing anything at all. These episodes were not designed with binge watching in mind, and it can be VERY hard to sit through them. Though I love 2 (and like 1 well enough), you might consider starting with 3 or even 4 first.

I would say its worth trying, just know it may not be for you.
 
I recently sold my box set of Trial of a Time lord.
I'd only watched the first part and while I enjoyed it, it was easy to tell the Collin was going to be insufferable, given that Robert Holmes, who is probably the best writer of the classic series and only wrote the first and last part of the story, could only make him annoying at best.
It also took up a lot of space.

I'll probably get around to watching the rest of it online some time as I'm mildly interested in where the story is going but not really that interested to sink the other 240 mins now.
 
Cyborg Scars said:
I recently sold my box set of Trial of a Time lord.
I'd only watched the first part and while I enjoyed it, it was easy to tell the Collin was going to be insufferable, given that Robert Holmes, who is probably the best writer of the classic series and only wrote the first and last part of the story, could only make him annoying at best.
It also took up a lot of space.

I'll probably get around to watching the rest of it online some time as I'm mildly interested in where the story is going but not really that interested to sink the other 240 mins now.
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6 gets SOOO much better in the audios.

Speaking of which...

TheImportantFart said:
You don't like 5 or 7?

Man, Cold Fusion would be your worst nightmare.
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Ahahaha... Even 7 can't stand 5.
 
I think I'll probably try to watch at least the beginnings and endings of each of the classic doctors even if i cant really get into them, but for reasons im not gonna talk about there are times when i could watch 5-6 hours of something that would otherwise be uninteresting. I mean i can be a little bit masochistic in that kinda regard i watched the last two seasons and the christmas special even though i didnt enjoy them for the most part. Hopefully interest in how the show progressed will be enough even if some of the stories arent great.
 
PLB said:
but for reasons im not gonna talk about there are times when i could watch 5-6 hours of something that would otherwise be uninteresting.
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Is it
:autism:?
Seriously though, I do find it rather fascinating to go back and see the origins of Doctor Who... May I ask, how would you rank the Doctors you've seen so far?
 
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