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Iwasamwillbe said:
What's the current worst? The female one?
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You do the most recent doctor a disservice by reducing her to being "the female doctor." The Doctor has been female before, and it has *always* been a bad thing. Jodie Whitaker isnt just a terrible doctor because she's a woman, she's a terrible doctor because she put no further effort into the role aside from mixing the worst parts of Doctor 10 and 11, +muh vagina. But yeah, she *is* the worst.
 
UnKillFill said:
You do the most recent doctor a disservice by reducing her to being "the female doctor." The Doctor has been female before, and it has *always* been a bad thing. Jodie Whitaker isnt just a terrible doctor because she's a woman, she's a terrible doctor because she put no further effort into the role aside from mixing the worst parts of Doctor 10 and 11, +muh vagina. But yeah, she *is* the worst.
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TBF, we don't know how much of that is Jodie and how much of that is the direction she was given unless someone reveals the homosexuality going on behind the scenes
 
Mr. 0 said:
TBF, we don't know how much of that is Jodie and how much of that is the direction she was given unless someone reveals the homosexuality going on behind the scenes
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Gonna strongly disagree with you there. The previous two doctors had terrible writing, but neither of them fell as far as she did this past series. If Jodie had been a better actress, she could have surpassed the bad writing like the past two doctors did. She obviously failed, and in awful interviews, she tried to virtue signal all along the way.
 
Stab You in the Back said:
You got me excited for a second until I looked it up and read that they just upscaled the DVDs again. Fucking hell, BBC. Have a little pride in your product.
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Every episode from the Classic era were recorded on videotape, so not much they can do as far as an HD release (except for Spearhead from Space, that one was done on actual film and only due to circumstance).
 
AnOminous said:
I think Davison's Doctor is underrated and the last one worth anything. He gets neglected because it's hard to follow Tom Baker.
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He's neglected because he's a wuss with weak stories (even Androzani isn't that good, it's running from place to place constantly getting captured and uncaptured. It's the filler stuff from better episodes as the entire thing.)
 
Cyborg Scars said:
He's neglected because he's a wuss with weak stories (even Androzani isn't that good, it's running from place to place constantly getting captured and uncaptured. It's the filler stuff from better episodes as the entire thing.)
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I actually wanted to ask people in this thread what their unpopular opinions on Doctor Who are, so this is a good segway to that very question. Here are some of mine:
  • Resurrection of the Daleks is one of the absolute best action stories the series has ever done and is excellent switch off your brain entertainment. I fucking love that story and the Daleks have never looked better.
  • Logopolis isn't very good and looks really fucking cheap even by Classic Who standards. They have the Doctor being menaced by a cardboard cutout of the Master at one point. Also, materialising the TARDIS underwater to flush it out? Are you fucking mental?
  • Time Flight isn't as bad as people say it is. I hear the cheapness brought up as one of the primary complaints, but it honestly looks no worse than the average Classic Who story. Considering the concepts in that story, I think it's about the best they could've done on an 80s BBC budget. Although the Master disguising himself as Kalid for no discernible reason is as stupid as people say it is.
  • The Dalek Invasion of Earth is dreadfully dull and the production values are appalling, even for the 60s. Campiness aside, I much prefer the Peter Cushing version.
  • The Web Planet is great - a campy, B-movie space adventure with wonderful atmosphere.
  • Silver Nemesis is a good watch. It has some great Cyberman action and even if you don't like it, at least it's short.
  • I used to think this wasn't an unpopular opinion, but apparently people really like The Two Doctors. I have no fucking idea why. It has the Sontarans running around Spain for no good reason (Arc of Infinity at least provided a half-arsed explanation for the Amsterdam setting), the entire Doctor becomes an Androgum sequence is completely pointless and the Sontaran makeup looks the worst it ever has, not even mentioning that the Sontaran commander is a foot taller than his lieutenant who's supposed to be a clone. The Sontarans are probably the only monster in Doctor Who history where the makeup gets worse with every story. The fact it's the last time we see the Second Doctor (my favourite Doctor) onscreen somehow makes it even worse.
  • I don't find Blink scary, and once you don't find it scary, you realise there's not very much else to that story.
  • Aliens of London and World War Three aren't that bad if you can ignore the farting aliens (which admittedly isn't easily done).
  • The Rings of Akhaten is a great story. I don't know why people think it's the worst thing ever.
  • The Paradigm Daleks could've worked if the production team hadn't cucked out on them so quickly. I heard some of the ideas they had planned for them, and it sounds like if they'd stuck with it, it might've worked out in the long run. They gave them a slight redesign for Asylum of the Daleks, which actually looked really beautiful. It's a shame they were thrown on the scrap pile after a handful of stories.
What are some of yours? They can be about anything - episodes, concepts, story arcs, behind the scenes tomfoolery, whatever you like.
 
Was there really a pregnant man in the show? What the hell was that about?
 
Oscar Wildean said:
Was there really a pregnant man in the show? What the hell was that about?
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Whoo boy was there ever.
(You asked "what the hell was that was all about." I promise you, you're missing no context from the larger episode in that 30 second clip)

That wasn't even the worst part of this episode... The alien of that particular week was bad cgi similar, but somehow even shittier than some rando aliens of "Galaxy Quest" (A movie from 1999) Naturally, even though said alien of the week was a natural murderer, mass killer, and would *always* be one by nature, *This* Doctor just settled for putting it to sleep for a short time... and saying "Fuck it" to whenever it woke up (and killed many more people in the future.) I don't know if I said it before, but FUCK this Doctor. And not even literally, because she's ugly to boot.
 
UnKillFill said:
Whoo boy was there ever. https://youtube.com/watch?v=0SvLtSv_PnI (You asked "what the hell was that was all about." I promise you, you're missing no context from the larger episode in that 30 second clip)

That wasn't even the worst part of this episode... The alien of that particular week was bad cgi similar, but somehow even shittier than some rando aliens of "Galaxy Quest" (A movie from 1999) Naturally, even though said alien of the week was a natural murderer, mass killer, and would *always* be one by nature, *This* Doctor just settled for putting it to sleep for a short time... and saying "Fuck it" to whenever it woke up (and killed many more people in the future.) I don't know if I said it before, but FUCK this Doctor. And not even literally, because she's ugly to boot.
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1. My first thought was that they saw that old documentary about that pregnant trans man who had a show all about the pregnancy and decided to rip it off.
2. My friend pointed out that this doctor scrunches up her face all the damn time and now that's all I see when I look at her pictures. Fucking hell man, she even scrunched her face up in that link you posted.
3. LOL, that like/dislike ratio.
 
Oscar Wildean said:
1. My first thought was that they saw that old documentary about that pregnant trans man who had a show all about the pregnancy and decided to rip it off.
2. My friend pointed out that this doctor scrunches up her face all the damn time and now that's all I see when I look at her pictures. Fucking hell man, she even scrunched her face up in that link you posted.
3. LOL, that like/dislike ratio.
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I hate her so much... I don't even hate Peter Davison (The second worst doctor) he was just a shitty wuss... This Doctor is frankly EVIL because of how random the fucks she gives are. ("No, I don't give a fuck that this alien wants to kill you, but DON'T you DARE fight back you cis-het-white-male"... That was in her FIRST EPISODE FFS.)
 
UnKillFill said:
I hate her so much... I don't even hate Peter Davison (The second worst doctor) he was just a shitty wuss... This Doctor is frankly EVIL because of how random the fucks she gives are. ("No, I don't give a fuck that this alien wants to kill you, but DON'T you DARE fight back you cis-het-white-male"... That was in her FIRST EPISODE FFS.)
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Yup, even if you ignore the 'Time War' bs, the Doctor has had no problems shooting aliens (Cybermen, Ogrons) in the past, and tried to genocide the Daleks at least twice.
 
Buster O'Keefe said:
Yup, even if you ignore the 'Time War' bs, the Doctor has had no problems shooting aliens (Cybermen, Ogrons) in the past, and tried to genocide the Daleks at least twice.
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I knew I wasn't going to like her from the moment she flipped out at the guy on the crane for defending himself from the tooth fairy-looking fucker.

At that point in time:
1. The Tooth Fairy had NOT agreed to stop trying to kill the dude, and was in fact still in the middle of trying to kill him. Even if he left when the Doctor told him to, he would have probably just come back to finish the job after she left if only out of spite. (Case in point, he comes back in the finale and is still evil.)
2. The Doctor had *already* placed bombs inside of him. There's no way she knew that he could survive those exploding. True, she didn't make him pull the trigger, but it was reasonable to assume he would- he was still evil AF, and her ineffectual "I'm the Doctor" speech (one of the worst in my memory) did nothing to change that.
But no, it's cool. The cis-het-white male "had no right" to defend himself.

It's funny though how in the very next episode, she had no problem blowing up those alien rape tentacles when they tried to kill her and her friends. Some might even say that she had no right to do that.

In the finale, she starts handing out explosives and guns like candy... and when Ryan questions her on why weapons are ok now but weren't earlier, her only response was "You were new, I had to lay down the rules." This Doctor is a bitchy schoolmarm.

It'd be one thing if this hypocrisy was treated like a character flaw to be overcome, but I don't think it's meant to be. (The strong female characters can't have any flaws, which somehow never stops them from being awful people.) This Doctor *still* has no problem killing enemies (or at least putting them into positions where they're probably going to die), it just has to be on *her* terms.
 
UnKillFill said:
I knew I wasn't going to like her from the moment she flipped out at the guy on the crane for defending himself from the tooth fairy-looking fucker.

At that point in time:
1. The Tooth Fairy had NOT agreed to stop trying to kill the dude, and was in fact still in the middle of trying to kill him. Even if he left when the Doctor told him to, he would have probably just come back to finish the job after she left if only out of spite. (Case in point, he comes back in the finale and is still evil.)
2. The Doctor had *already* placed bombs inside of him. There's no way she knew that he could survive those exploding. True, she didn't make him pull the trigger, but it was reasonable to assume he would- he was still evil AF, and her ineffectual "I'm the Doctor" speech (one of the worst in my memory) did nothing to change that.
But no, it's cool. The cis-het-white male "had no right" to defend himself.

It's funny though how in the very next episode, she had no problem blowing up those alien rape tentacles when they tried to kill her and her friends. Some might even say that she had no right to do that.

In the finale, she starts handing out explosives and guns like candy... and when Ryan questions her on why weapons are ok now but weren't earlier, her only response was "You were new, I had to lay down the rules." This Doctor is a bitchy schoolmarm.

It'd be one thing if this hypocrisy was treated like a character flaw to be overcome, but I don't think it's meant to be. (The strong female characters can't have any flaws, which somehow never stops them from being awful people.) This Doctor *still* has no problem killing enemies (or at least putting them into positions where they're probably going to die), it just has to be on *her* terms.
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Spoilers are pointing at Daleks for the special tomorrow. If the Doc doesn't try to fuck their shit up, the shark will be well and truly harpooned, sunk to the bottom of the Mariana Trench, and over-orbited from HEO
 
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