Off-Topic Drag Queen and Assorted LGBTQ Grooming Omnibus thread - The long-overdue hall of shame

Provo • The angels stood quietly while protesters yelled “pedophile” and “groomer” and pushed signs quoting the Book of Mormon toward their faces.

“You’re going against God,” one man spat. Another told them to “stop protecting the homos” at Brigham Young University.

The dozen people dressed in white didn’t flinch. Hand in hand, they formed a shield between the 100 people rallying in front of them and the LGBTQ students, alumni and friends from BYU who gathered off campus to find and show support for each other Saturday night.

The angel’s wings, made of white sheets draped over PVC pipe that extended 3 feet above their shoulders, blocked most of the posters at the “Back to School Pride Night” at Kiwanis Park in Provo.

“I’m doing this because I want our LGBTQ community to feel like they can be themselves and know we have their backs,” said Sabrina Wong, a BYU student and ally who stood as one of the angels at Kiwanis Park in Provo.


Clubs for queer students who attend BYU are not allowed to meet on campus; the school operated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints forbids it, as well as any same-sex romantic partnerships or displays of affection among LGBTQ students.

So the RaYnbow Collective, a nonprofit that supports the BYU queer community, holds an annual gathering at a park at the start of every school year. This year, they went bigger than ever before, planning what they billed as a family-friendly drag show — which included current and former BYU students as performers.


But several conservative groups vowed to show up to object, saying it was inappropriate for children and they had to defend their town. Some BYU students were among the protesters.

“This shouldn’t be at a public park,” said Thomas Stevenson, a BYU senior and the co-founder of the informal BYU Conservatives group, which has no restrictions for meeting on campus. He described a “social contagion with gender dysphoria” which is why they were protesting kids being at the show.

Protesting BYU students wore blue BYU T-shirts and baseball hats, in contrast to their classmates wearing rainbow gear on the other side of the angels. Some protesters openly carried handguns on their hips as they waved American flags and chanted, “Christ is king” and “Stop grooming our children.”

“Drag is a sexual fetish,” said Brad Bartholomew, a Utah County resident. “This is sexualizing children.”

The protesters said they were concerned about the stage names of the drag performers, including “Jenna Tailia,” meant to sound like “genitalia.” They argued the show didn’t align with the values of the LDS Church and BYU.


Maddison Tenney, founder of the RaYnbow Collective and a senior at BYU, said she knew there would be protesters, but she became concerned when Provo police told her to expect a large crowd pushing back.


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(Francisco Kjolseth | The Salt Lake Tribune) People dressed as “angels” form a wall in an effort to shield counterprotestors as the RaYnbow Collective hosts a Back to School Pride Night for BYU students at Kiwanis Park in Provo on Saturday, Sept. 3, 2022.

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That’s when, she said, her group decided to use angel costumes — a strategy famously used by the friends of gay University of Wyoming student Matthew Shepard in 1999, when the two men accused of killing him went on trial. Shepard, 21, was beaten, tortured and left hanging from a wooden prairie fence in 1998 after the men attacked him for his sexuality. He died six days later.

Angels blocked signs held by members of the Westboro Baptist Church who protested outside the courtroom with signs that said “God hates f--s.” Several groups have since replicated the display, including at the funerals for the victims of the Orlando shooting at an LGBTQ nightclub in 2016.

“Religion has been weaponized against the queer community for a long time,” Tenney said Saturday. “But that needs to end. I believe there’s nothing more divine than who I am as a queer child of God.”

Following Beyoncé's advice​

The protesters were outnumbered by those who showed up for the queer community.

That included members of the Black Menaces, who have been working to fight prejudice on BYU’s campus. The university has been under national scrutiny after a Duke student said a racial slur was yelled at her during a volleyball match on campus last week. BYU has said the incident is still under investigation, but another school has pulled out of competing against the university over it.

(Francisco Kjolseth | The Salt Lake Tribune) Wendy Garvin, left, tries to block a counterprotester from moving in on the performance stage as the RaYnbow Collective hosts a Back to School Pride Night for BYU students at Kiwanis Park in Provo on Saturday, Sept. 3, 2022.

(Francisco Kjolseth | The Salt Lake Tribune) Wendy Garvin, left, tries to block a counterprotester from moving in on the performance stage as the RaYnbow Collective hosts a Back to School Pride Night for BYU students at Kiwanis Park in Provo on Saturday, Sept. 3, 2022.
Jillian Orr also was at the gathering in the park; she is bisexual and graduated from BYU this spring in a rainbow gown that went viral.

There were roughly 300 people in colorful clothes, clapping along to the drag show. Kids belted out the songs from Ariana Grande and Cyndi Lauper, sitting in the grass below the stage.

John LeSueur brought his 2-year-old son and 5-year-old daughter to see the performances — feeling the opposite of the protesters about kids seeing drag. “I just thought they’d enjoy a good show,” he said with a smile. His daughter “oohed” and “aahed” as the drag queen Kitty Kitty spun in front of her.

Drag queens and kings twirled and dropped on stage in sequins and feathers and fringe. One had a beard made out of rainbow beads. Another had a skirt fashioned out of acrylic nails. The host queen had a blue ballgown and rainbow sash. They all wore the highest high heels.

A queen by the stage name Jaliah Jambalaya hand-bedazzled a BYU sweatshirt in orange and green and blue. She added red lips and gold hoops to the cougar mascot.


She lip-synced to Beyoncé's “Single Ladies,” putting extra emphasis on the line, “Don’t pay him any attention” as she looked out over the demonstrators.

(Francisco Kjolseth | The Salt Lake Tribune) Jaliah kicks off the start of the showcase drag show as the RaYnbow Collective hosts a Back to School Pride Night for BYU students at Kiwanis Park in Provo on Saturday, Sept. 3, 2022.

(Francisco Kjolseth | The Salt Lake Tribune) Jaliah kicks off the start of the showcase drag show as the RaYnbow Collective hosts a Back to School Pride Night for BYU students at Kiwanis Park in Provo on Saturday, Sept. 3, 2022.
Another performer, with the stage name Lexi Gold, said performing in drag has allowed her to “really come into myself.” She once was a student at BYU where, she said, she felt she had to hide.

The performers aren’t groomers; they are there to show how to embrace who you are, Gold said — every glamorous part.

“This event just means so much to us,” she said, standing by the stage in a shimmering pink raincoat and a tall blond wig. “I wish I saw more of this when I was at school. It’s so affirming.”

All 12 of the drag performers faced threats, Tenney said, before the show, receiving violent messages on social media. She paced the entrance to the stage, making sure they were safe during the show.

A few police officers also monitored the crowed, breaking up a handful of clashes between the two groups.


‘We can protect each other’​

Carolyn Gassert, the president of Understanding Sexuality, Gender, and Allyship, or USGA, a group for LGBTQ BYU students, said most of the queer students at BYU are used to the vitriol.

“This is the kind of stuff we have to deal with here,” she said. “It’s not just tonight. We hear these comments in the classroom.”

Logan Bushman, who graduated from BYU in the spring as an openly gay student, pulled together the angel costumes. Building them, he said, was a way for him to protest BYU’s change to its Honor Code in March 2020, an episode that left some gay students feeling gaslighted.

The university quietly removed a section banning “all forms of physical intimacy that give expression to homosexual feelings.” LGBTQ students celebrated what they hoped that meant and many said they came out as gay only because they believed — and were told by some Honor Code staff — that the school now allowed it.

But leaders clarified three weeks later that same-sex relationships were still “not compatible” with the rules at BYU. Bushman said he hadn’t felt comfortable protesting while he was still a student; he was worried about discipline.


“I wish we didn’t have to do this, to be honest,” he said. “It’s a lot to see these protesters who don’t like who I am.”

At the park, Tenney told the crowd: “I know that there are more standing with us than those against us,”

Where there were gaps in the line of angels, students filled in by waving rainbow flags above the protesters’ signs that peeked through. Some locked arms and joined the angels.

Gassert watched as nearby a mom took her daughter’s photos by her favorite drag queen. And she joined in as everyone got up to dance together to Celine Dion’s “It’s All Coming Back to Me Now” at the end of the show.

“At least we can protect each other,” Gassert said.


The angels jumped in with the crowd, too, their wings bobbing up and down as the music and the cheers drowned out the few left shouting into the megaphones behind them.

(Francisco Kjolseth | The Salt Lake Tribune) Kitty shows the love towards the fans during a drag show for the RaYnbow Collective’s Back to School Pride Night for BYU students at Kiwanis Park in Provo on Saturday, Sept. 3, 2022, with a drag show at the end of the event.

(Francisco Kjolseth | The Salt Lake Tribune) Kitty shows the love towards the fans during a drag show for the RaYnbow Collective’s Back to School Pride Night for BYU students at Kiwanis Park in Provo on Saturday, Sept. 3, 2022, with a drag show at the end of the event.


I hope that BYU and/or the LDS church are able to find names and suspend/excommunicate these pedophiles.

If the horrible shit that these predators doing doesn't land them behind bars, the least that the academic and religious organizations could do is to make examples out of them.
 
Crossposting from A&N. TL;DR - parents at a religious (!) boys' elementary school in Israel are shocked to discover that one of the students in their sons' class is actually a girl, and that the staff had been covering this up for years. Everyone from the national school administration to the mayor of the city is telling them to shut up about it but they won't. I really hope Null gets the site back up on the clearnet soon, so everyone can see how upset groomer reporter Tzvi Joffre (Twitter: @TzviJoffre) of the groomer newspaper the Jerusalem Groomer Post is over the real criminals - the upset parents:
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Oh, and a conservative newspaper that "msigendered" the boy girl victim.
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Since it doesnt really look like it was mentioned anywhere in here i felt that it was appropriate here
https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article265551171.html | A
The TL;DR here is that a teacher was yelling at a student for not calling pedophiles MAPs and the school board decided unanimously to drop her
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"Don't judge people because they want to have sex with a five year old" this was stated by someone put in charge of teaching children. This honestly might be the one video to show people to make them actually wake up to how bad this shit has gotten.
 
So is there an archive of this thread just in case things go down again? This is a pretty damning collection of evidence and valuable.
 
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‘Hocus Pocus’ Put A Spell On The Drag Community

How a Disney movie turned from flop to cult classic, with a little help from the queens

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CLAIR VOYANCE WAS three years old the first time she watched Hocus Pocus. She can still remember the sound the VHS tape made, and the way a blanket transformed into a makeshift cape when it was wrapped around her shoulders. But she wasn’t focused on the film’s child stars as they navigated their Halloween adventure. No, all attention was on the Sanderson Sisters. The three witches, played by Bette Midler, Kathy Najimy, and Sarah Jessica Parker, flounced on screen, singing “I Put A Spell on You” to a transfixed and delighted audience. For Clair, now an Orange County, California-based drag queen who stars in a Hocus Pocus drag show, it wasn’t just entertaining. It was magical.

Almost 30 years since the film’s premiere, Hocus Pocus’s legacy has evolved from a theatrical flop to a iconic piece of queer cinema. It’s a bond so strong that Disney cast RuPaul’s Drag Race alums Ginger, Kornbread, and Kahmora, to appear as drag Sanderson sisters in the film. But several drag queens say drag culture isn’t just important to Hocus Pocus — it kept the film’s legacy alive.



“Regardless of where you are, in the world, you go into a gay bar during Halloween, you’re gonna find three drag queens — one in a blonde wig, one in a red wig, and one in a black up-do,” Clair tells Rolling Stone. “They’re going to be performing ‘I Put A Spell On You,’ and it’s going to make you want to scream and throw your $1 bills.”

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First released in 1993, Hocus Pocus focuses on Winifred, Mary, and Sarah Sanderson, three sister witches desperate to kill children before the end of Halloween in order to keep their eternal youth (played by Midler, Najimy, and Parker, respectively). The movie had poor reviews and only made around $39 million in theaters, according to Vulture, and was heavily criticized for hiding its stars under a mountain of slapstick makeup and over-the-top prosthetics — and equally over-the-top performances. But instead of fading into obscurity, the film’s sexy, slapstick approach to spooky season consistently drew at-home viewers. Now, the film is almost synonymous with the Halloween season and a staple at drag shows everywhere.

For the past 11 years, Nicole Halliwell, a Florida drag entertainer and Midler impersonator, has starred in It’s Just A Bunch Of Hocus Pocus: A Drag Tribute, which bills itself as the oldest and longest running Hocus Pocus drag show in the U.S. Halliwell says when the show first started, they were shut down by the fire marshall after 500 people tried to attend their 10 minute bar show, and the performance ballooned into a several-show affair. Now, it’s an hour-long production with sets and numbers, one that draws at least 2,000 visitors annually. The stars, who pride themselves on accuracy to the film’s iconic looks, were even invited to the premiere of Hocus Pocus 2.

“It’s funny how this little show turned into something so beloved in our community,” Nicole tells Rolling Stone. “It’s the experience of sitting down at a theater to see a drag show and then seeing all the love and time and effort put behind this and how much passion we’ve put into these characters, because all of us in this cast adore this movie.”

Bev, a Philly drag queen who stars in her own Hocus Pocus show as Winifred Sanderson, points to a history of Disney films, like The Little Mermaid or 101 Dalmatians, imbuing their villains with drag like-qualities — a pattern she says has inspired an a decades long history of drag versions of the Sanderson Sisters.



“The characters are essentially in drag. They’re such caricatures and archetypes that they’re easy to take on,” Bev says. “And the most iconic villains are always the ones that are way over the top, the kind you can sink your teeth into and have more fun [with].”

It helps that the Sanderson Sisters, at least their actress counterparts, are all considered iconic in the drag community for both their strong stances on LGBTQ-inclusion and presence in other queer staples like Sister Act, Sex And The City, and The First Wives Club.

“There’s something magical when you take three women who are gay icons in their own right, like Mandy and Sarah Jessica Parker and Bette Midler, and you put them in giant wigs and corsets and hoist them 30 feet into the air and have them be witches and do production numbers,” Clair says. “It just takes it to another level of fantasy. It’s hard not just to smile through that whole movie.”

Pixel The Drag Jester, a Black New York drag queen who’s been performing for almost 10 years, says her experience with Hocus Pocus was minimal until she became heavily involved in the drag community. While she tells Rolling Stone white queens are usually the most enamored by the film, she says she appreciates how the Sanderson Sisters exhibit existing drag ideals.

“It’s about strong women exacting their revenge, which we live for,” Pixel says. “But the storytelling of these witches really speaks to the drag community because it’s all those things. It’s over the top, it’s camp, it’s feminine, it’s about women with power. And I think drag queens really idealize those values and hold those values at the core of their being.”

“Disney took a hint at who kept this movie alive, and who kept these characters alive for the past 30 years, which was the drag queens,” Clair tells Rolling Stone. “Let’s just say, if the drag queens weren’t around, the sequel wouldn’t have been made. They’re the ones that kept it exciting for people.”

Even with a mainstream acceptance of Hocus Pocus’ influence on drag, the past year has seen a surge of threats and protests against drag queens, stoked by far-right talking points accusing queens of targeting children or promoting pedophilia.



“It’s a sad situation right now because, especially from inside the bubble of the drag community, we realize what this really is, which is people from certain political parties trying to take the focus off of the bigger issues by riling up their base,” Nicole tells Rolling Stone. “But drag has been around long before these people existed and it’ll be around after all of us are gone.”

There will almost certainly be backlash against the drag queens’ inclusion in a Disney film. But with Hocus Pocus, the drag community have already proven the staying power of bold, loud, unlikeable women — and none of the queens who spoke to Rolling Stone said they plan on being deterred by the threats.

“You take a movie that’s sort of like sacred in queer culture and you know that queer people are always gonna love it and appreciate it,” Clair tells Rolling Stone. “But it has sort of expanded beyond a queer cult classic into a deeply beloved coat film for everyone. And now we have this 30 year lineage of people reintroducing this movie to the next generation and them falling in love with it just as much.”
 
Why is it so hard to believe conservative gays against trans kids exist? Do the people who post here also think that Gays Against Groomers are just straight people LARPing, like so many SJWs accuse them of?
There aren't really "trans kids," there are Munchausen by Proxy sick fuck parents forcing a perversion onto their children. They should be viewed on the same level as child molesters.
And here I thought they were "born that way" so why do they have to be groomed by adult registered sex offenders to be that way?

It's almost like they are admitting you have to be groomed from an early age to end up a troon.
 
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