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Yeah, he heard Goku's wish and actually did it just for lulz
Dragon Ball Thread - RIP Akira Toriyama
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And yet he couldn't even do that, so instead he just gossips
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I'm assuming thisis just a shitpost given the only result for this when looking it up is a fucking twitter post with the same image but knowing the guys sense of humor it'd line up kinda as a joking statement.
No they weren't saying popo did it they're saying popo was "bad racist character" and uub was "good POC powerful kid" I think they're also assuming uub is a black kid because of the darker skintone despite him still wearing asian style clothing and having straight hair.
It's even weirder because the actual Buu is also revived iirc so uub is like a revived version of buu's evil clone but is treated like he's a revived version of the normal buu by everything.
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iirc buu was split into two characters - buu and evil buu/kid buu, with former getting killed and later revived with dragon balls and latter being reincarnated into uub
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Yes but I'm pretty sure there's a part where it treats him like he's the og buu and not the evil buu clone that became super buu and then kid buu, or maybe I'm remembering this wrong.
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Struck me more as Indian than anything.
But it's also a giant fantasy Asia world incorporating shit from west Asia to the east so it's silly speculating real life identity politics.
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Speaking of identity politics I'm going back once again to the shit where they overlook the actual character's and focus on shit like them having big lips.
You can tell if someone's a "tourist" solely from how they treat guys like Staff officer Black due to him being a black guy with big lips who's position title is Black.
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There's more depth to Black than any Sweetbaby creation ironically enough.
As for heavy shit in Dragon Ball, this always made me wince.
I don't think they even animated this scene to be as brutal.
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Toei definitely had to tone things down. The Recoome fight was more brutal in the manga if I remember right, for instance.
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Yeah that's pretty common for TV stuff. Though it's not dragonball, I remember when i was a kid and got around to reading the yugioh manga back when the series was new in the US and finding out in the manga whenever Bakura got posessed by the ring necklace he had the little pointy bits literally dug into his chest causing him to constantly be bleeding from that area.
Anyways, that's exactly why it's fucking nuts to me the scene I linked was allowed to even exist, especially around the time it got dubbed with how heavy network censors were for kids content. I don't think even adult dramas from around that time period showed bullet wounds so matter of factly.
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Early Yugioh had Yugi straight up killing people.
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The anime season that happened in never got a dubbed release and was done by a different anime studio than the rest of the series, and even then the way he "killed" people wasn't him "directly" doing it most of the time but thematically ironic fate curse type shit. He did do a lot of brain scrambling-er I mean mind crushing directly though.
Big part of the reason i read the manga was because the early stuff that's referenced but never shown in the anime we got was only available through that.
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The first run of Yugioh was literally just a straight-up horror series with Saw-esque games of life and death. It only lightened up later because of outside factors, and even then, in the manga it never really did fully lose its edge.
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Other than setting up that escaped convict to be immolated, I have some vague memory of Yugi turning someone's chair into a crocodile and it biting the man's head off. I'll have to dig out my old volumes when I get home to see.
A lot more life experience than the typical mangaka who'd be anywhere from high school age to 25 when starting, which is why the themes about death towards the end feel like they have some weight to it than the usual Shonen storyline.
I think one thing that helped the comics writing compared to a lot of SJ stuff was the author being 35 years old at the time when he started it which gave it some teeth.
A lot more life experience than the typical mangaka who'd be anywhere from high school age to 25 when starting, which is why the themes about death towards the end feel like they have some weight to it than the usual Shonen storyline.
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Fat Boo never died during the fight on the Kai planet. He just gets the fuck beaten out of him.
Kid Boo is Boo's true form before he started absorbing people, and what Super/Boo-Han reverted into after goku and vegeta freed everyone he'd absorbed, including Fat Boo. So Kid Boo is "normal" Boo. And since it was Kid Boo who was killed and who the reincarnation wish was made towards, we get Oob.
The reincarnation was the final wish, since the first two were used for bringing the earth back and giving goku his full power back during the spirit bomb struggle. So no wish on reviving Fat Boo was ever made.
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Toriyama was just so done with the series at this point.
I haven't seen it in donkey's years and I can't seem to find a recap that goes into enough detail. But my memory is that restoring the Earth required two wishes. One to restore the planet and one to restore the people. The wish to restore Goku's strength was the last. I remember Vegeta saying "Wait! We still have a wish left, don't we?"
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Wasn't Yugi who did it, it was Shadi, and the fucker deserved it to begin with.
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He was done as far back as Frieza. Super Saiyan is ridiculous and comes from nowhere. Raises the question as to why Goku didn't turn Super Saiyan when Krillin first died or when he came back and saw all his friends were dead. Then it turns into a footnote even children can do. I like Z but let's not pretend like Toriyama's writing is anything to speak home about. We're there for fights and feelings, even if they may be stupid sometimes because death is absolutely worthless with both sets of dragon balls existing.
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I kind of liked the fan theory (I know, I know) that Saiyans turn SSJ when they are at their physical limit and experience a burst of emotion. It would explain why half-humans can do it more easily (they are more emotional beings) and why Goku didn't do it at the points you mentioned (he wasn't pushed to his physical limit). It's better than Tingly Back™, at least.
E: Rereading your post I can't agree that SSJ comes out of nowhere. Vegeta never shuts up about being a Super Saiyan and he repeatedly claims that either he or Goku has become one. IIRC the English dub of the episode where Goku actually transforms is literally called "Transformed at Last."
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