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I have spent the last 4 days either shopping for food or cooking it (we had rack of Lamb and Bacon wrapped Scallops Christmas Ever and Prime Rib with Butter Poached Lobster today... plus I did all the sides) and playing Santa for my young children in between.

Saturday Afternoon, as I was tending the smoker, I tried to read about weird fuckers on the internet and I couldn't get through to Kiwifarms on my phone. So instead, I read about performance parts for Buick Nailheads on another forum until it was time to clear the grill for the next course.

It's Christmas for Fuck's sake. Most of us have lives, family's and real life shit that actually matters (that's not to say that I'm not concerned about the ability of unpopular speech to be broadcast on the internet....but if your definition of success is knocking a small forum off the internet on Christmas Day then that says something about you).

So, umm, I guess they can take the win for crippling our ability to get on the Clearnet (though it still half ass works for me) during Christmas (while @Null is drinking too much eggnog). You have to take your wins where you can find them. Especially since, near as I can tell, most of the participants in #Dropkiwifarms shouldn't be allowed near children.

So I tip my hat to you gentlemen (because you are obviously men).
 
This Allison idiot is just lying right? The Farms has nothing to do with "booters" running botnets and Josh is doing his own DDOS.
No, but Cloudflare has no issues protecting DDoS booter services from DDoS attacks, while at the other hand collecting subscription fees from customers that want to protect themselves against the same DDoS booter services that Cloudflare is also protecting. That's where Allison is most likely referring to. The DDoS protection providers also protect the DDoS booters.

While I believe Cloudflare is just a simple service provider and they should offer the same protection to anyone (including Kiwifarms, or DDoS booters), I can see how some people might think that Cloudflare are being hypocrites from getting paid by both sides of this "industry".
 
DropKiwifarms and RubinRemus have been discussing the evils of KiwiFarms and tarnishing the name of our dear leader (again).
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Anti-KiwiFarms Twitter sperg RubinRemus is such a drama queen and easily milked for lols. He/she has amassed almost 750 Twitter images of which most are KiwiFarms screenshots. He/she has a massive hateboner for @Null and a KF member who I think posts under her real name @Caroline Farrow.
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Hearing Josh admit to what in his own voice? These faggots have 400 different accusations against Josh for anything and everything, but post no actual fucking proof beyond hearsay. I feel like every day I come across a new accusation.
 
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Hearing Josh admit to what in his own voice? These faggots have 400 different accusations against Josh for anything and everything, but post no actual fucking proof beyond hearsay. I feel like every day I come across a new accusation.

It's also a very immature "no you" response to the very well documented and comprehesive stack of evidence posted on here establishing the link between degenerate freaks and the predatory grooming/sexual abuse of children they engage in.

RubinRemus seems incredibly desperate for attention, being included as one of KF's "targets" is probably an aspiration for them.
 
Don't use private tags for anything except dox on page 1 or nudes. If you don't want to give someone attention, simply do not.
 
Why does he think the Kiwi Farms is illegal in the EU? The EU sucks for plenty of reasons but it has only a slightly less internet content restrictive regime than the U.S. does, it's not fucking China or Australia. Does he think Twitter is illegal in the EU? :story:

It way more existential thank you think. They have to invoke EU censorship as a threat against American websites under a globalist regime that is explicitly hostile to American free speech. #DropKiwiFarms people always bring up the EU as the censorious regime they want to instill in the US (with Caraballo openly begging the EU to sanction Musk, etc), but they are doing so as Americans who have never actually had to live under EU censorship. Those who lack free speech hate those who have it. Those who have put themselves in a cage have to invent myths and lies about those living outside the cage whom they can still see from behind their bars. One of the lies they've thus invented is that it's better and safer to be inside the cage, and those on the outside are foolishly putting themselves at risk. Europeans censor so much speech on the false premise that speech is dangerous and people can't and won't handle themselves when exposed to free speech, but the daily existence and practice of American free speech proves that premise to be total and utter bullshit. Every time an American runs their mouth freely online they prove EU speech laws wrong not in theory but in practice, and Europeans can't stand it.

Europeans are battleship sinking hypocrites when it comes to accessing American 1A protected content on the internet. On the one hand Europeans want to access American websites, they want to read American content that they know would be unlawful in the EU itself due to their backwards speech laws. Europeans also want to mingle with Americans online, watching them all running their mouths freely online knowing they're protected under the 1A. Europeans love watching Americans smack-talk their politicians and celebrities in a way that would be unlawful if not outright criminal in many EU countries (many EU countries still have speech laws on the books that f.e. criminalize insulting royalty). At the same time as Europeans willingly and intentionally access all of this American content - thus becoming exposed and used to free speech, experiencing first hand that free speech is really nothing to get so worked up about - they also want to have their cake and eat. They badly crave American free speech but they hate themselves for it, like it's some kind of a guilty pleasure they're embarrassed about. The fact is that the mere existence of American free speech challenges too many bullshit ideas that Europeans have accepted and enshrined into law, so Europeans would rather destroy American free speech than destroy the censorious house-of-cards that is built into their own legal system that only serves to prevent them from having free speech of their own.
 
DropKiwifarms and RubinRemus have been discussing the evils of KiwiFarms and tarnishing the name of our dear leader (again).

Hearing Josh admit to what in his own voice? These faggots have 400 different accusations against Josh for anything and everything, but post no actual fucking proof beyond hearsay. I feel like every day I come across a new accusation.
It's DARVO, reverse psychology. They have to accuse their opponents of everything they do themselves. They have to convince themselves and everyone in their cult that Joshua Moon is a pedophile and a danger to children because they themselves have the blood of children's mutilated and castrated bodies on their hands. They know they want to trans children because they actually get off to children posting their "transition progress pics" online, so the only way to distract from that covert CP within TRA, they have to accuse their opponents who are exposing them of being literal monsters.

Here's what Joshua Moon actually said on the topic of lolicon:

"I think that it's really gross and I would never wanna associate with anyone into it, like Digibro is. But my main issue is that, child pornography has a victim. Even if it's a photograph of something... that's my point, the reason why child pornography is regulated so tightly is that even allowing it to be traded creates a black market for producing it in poorer countries. So, I don't think lolicon has that black market. So, I am not for it being criminalized, but again, I would strongly condemn, I would not wanna know anyone who was into, especially openly."


Later he spoke out even more strongly against lolicon, but #DropKiwiFarms will never show you those segments so you can see how his opinion changed overtime:

"I miss it too, that's the worst thing. Like, I have tried to participate in other communities and shit, just to kill time while I'm on, waiting for other shit to happen, and it's like, they all suck. Everything fucking sucks. Like, I really don't know. Short of just leaving the internet, what the fuck am I gonna do? If the site goes down? Like, I can't, I can't participate in all these shitty fucking communities. I hate these fucking people. I hate anime avatars. I hate lolicons. Like, those are my options, I either go to these super posh shithole communities or I can go to these anime avatar lolicon communities. Like, I'd rather just not. I'd rather just fucking not. So I guess I'll take up metal smithing or something in the future. I'll just grow banana peppers and sell them and become Amish or some shit. Fucking awful. "

source: https://odysee.com/@mati:c/mad-at-the-internet-2022-10-28:c?t=4620

I've been listening to old MATI podcasts where Joshua Moon discussed openly and extensively what was happening on the image boards he was moderating at the time, but these #DropKiwiFarms people will never snip and post those parts or those Livestreams. They are cherry-picking old MATI episodes and online recordings to find those parts that they can misconstrue to make Joshua Moon seem as monstrous as possible.
 
It's DARVO, reverse psychology. They have to accuse their opponents of everything they do themselves. They have to convince themselves and everyone in their cult that Joshua Moon is a pedophile and a danger to children because they themselves have the blood of children's mutilated and castrated bodies on their hands. They know they want to trans children because they actually get off to children posting their "transition progress pics" online, so the only way to distract from that covert CP within TRA, they have to accuse their opponents who are exposing them of being literal monsters.

Here's what Joshua Moon actually said on the topic of lolicon:




Later he spoke out even more strongly against lolicon, but #DropKiwiFarms will never show you those segments so you can see how his opinion changed overtime:



source: https://odysee.com/@mati:c/mad-at-the-internet-2022-10-28:c?t=4620

I've been listening to old MATI podcasts where Joshua Moon discussed openly and extensively what was happening on the image boards he was moderating at the time, but these #DropKiwiFarms people will never snip and post those parts or those Livestreams. They are cherry-picking old MATI episodes and online recordings to find those parts that they can misconstrue to make Joshua Moon seem as monstrous as possible.

They're deliberately conflating drawn or written material with CP as well. The latter is illegal, the former is not (in most of the US anyway) and is not even uniformly banned across mainstream platforms (like I said in the Alex Caraballo thread, AO3 still allows written underage content, and it recently won a Hugo award).

Discord only cracked down on loli and shota in 2018, causing much outcry on Reddit. Reddit itself only banned loli content around 2017/2018. So if their message is "any platform that formerly allowed fictional underage material, but now doesn't, is bad and must be destroyed" then they need to go after those places as well.

Even by the standards of feigned outrage this is pretty weak.
 
RubinRemus seems incredibly desperate for attention, being included as one of KF's "targets" is probably an aspiration for them.
I still think it's Adrian Harrop, who already has a thread with him in the title. Nobody attacking the Farms in such a way doesn't have a personal stake in the matter by being referenced and documented here. Admitted rapist Liz Fong-Jones was merely a sidenote, but is such a control freak sociopath that he's been trying to take Null down for years. Same applies with everyone from Sinseer to Vordrak - they're only so ass-blasted because there's things about them on here.

The troons who lie about being documented here are doing it for victim points and attention, and they routinely lie about who they are so lying about harassment is old hat for them. Ditto with 'journalists' like Taylor Lorenz - she has a thread, but she's exaggerated the contents and the age of the thread (much like her own age) to seem more victimised. But this year's attack has been troon-based and troon-led, and the less shit about them here, the less they actually care about the Farms. All the Lucas acolytes from a few months back have vanished because they're not really personally affected, so they've moved on, because they don't really care unless it's about them personally. The ones making Twitter accounts to try and take the Farms down are universally people who have threads here and don't like it.

So I'm certain that RubinRemus already considers himself one of the 'targets'. He wouldn't care so much otherwise. About the only thing I'd say we know for sure is that he's UK-based, because everything else is predicated on him telling the truth about himself. But currently my money's on Harrop, or one of his crew documented in that thread.

They have to accuse their opponents of everything they do themselves.
It's all they do. Not only that, it's worth pointing out that they nearly always have to twist words and fake details to smear their opponents (another thing they always accuse people of doing to them) - but you don't have to do the same back. You don't have to twist Lucas' words to know he was a catboy groomer who actively funded the selling of illegal HRT. Nor do you have to do it to say that Elliot Fong-Jones committed a 'consent accident', or that Alex Caraballo routinely, hypocritically, calls for threats and violence against his enemies, and then got called out by a congresswoman for doing so.

That's their own words, in context, posted in full in their threads with the surrounding materials. But no, the Farms are full of lies and misinformation. Better get your 'truth' from those same people when their evidence is just 'trust me bro'. Even when they have something to work with, they have to pull it and stretch it like taffy to try and make it damning. And often it's not even something they object to, considering they're invariably friends with self-described MAPs, ageplay fetishists and cub, loli and shota enjoyers themselves.

For insane people, you'd hope they'd be more imaginative with it. But no, full projection, every time.
 
It's DARVO, reverse psychology. They have to accuse their opponents of everything they do themselves. They have to convince themselves and everyone in their cult that Joshua Moon is a pedophile and a danger to children because they themselves have the blood of children's mutilated and castrated bodies on their hands. They know they want to trans children because they actually get off to children posting their "transition progress pics" online, so the only way to distract from that covert CP within TRA, they have to accuse their opponents who are exposing them of being literal monsters.

Here's what Joshua Moon actually said on the topic of lolicon:




Later he spoke out even more strongly against lolicon, but #DropKiwiFarms will never show you those segments so you can see how his opinion changed overtime:



source: https://odysee.com/@mati:c/mad-at-the-internet-2022-10-28:c?t=4620

I've been listening to old MATI podcasts where Joshua Moon discussed openly and extensively what was happening on the image boards he was moderating at the time, but these #DropKiwiFarms people will never snip and post those parts or those Livestreams. They are cherry-picking old MATI episodes and online recordings to find those parts that they can misconstrue to make Joshua Moon seem as monstrous as possible.
It doesn’t matter what Josh says, or how strongly he condemns lolicon. Unfortunately if people have already been convinced he’s a pedo, all of his statements can be twisted into “Josh Moon hates pedos so much because he secretly is one.”
 
Hyperbolic language is SOP for troons. They're given such a pass (ha) to catastrophize, exaggerate, and lie, that there's little reason for them not to go all the way to 11.
 
Anti-KiwiFarms Twitter sperg RubinRemus is such a drama queen and easily milked for lols. He/she has amassed almost 750 Twitter images of which most are KiwiFarms screenshots. He/she has a massive hateboner for @Null and a KF member who I think posts under her real name @Caroline Farrow.
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A detail who come to my mind is all these screenshots they taked. If they didn't requested to the staff of the Wayback Machine to remove all archived datas of KF. They would have linked to the archived datas in question instead of making tons of screenshots.
 
DropKiwifarms and RubinRemus don't understand that the KiwiFarms hack was due to a vulnerability in XenForo's software.
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DropKiwifarms and RubinRemus have been discussing the evils of KiwiFarms and tarnishing the name of our dear leader (again).
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"Really makes you wonder what else he's been hosting under his business '1776 hosting', while it was all hidden by cloudflare. Authorities should seize his entire server and all his home computers/phones/electronics."

Oh, look, our proud ACAB Leftist wants the state to illegally seize property to look through to try and find a crime. And seems to think Cloudflare somehow was hiding material from being viewed on the internet. (Yet I'll note John doesn't advocate for the state to illegally seize the property of Cloudflare nor all its employees.)

DropKiwifarms and RubinRemus don't understand that the KiwiFarms hack was due to a vulnerability in XenForo's software.
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"It's a source for all the info required for identify theft... [it] shares their personal data including location ... Google should delist the entire site."

Just wait until John finds out one way all this information is typically gathered.
 
DropKiwifarms and RubinRemus don't understand that the KiwiFarms hack was due to a vulnerability in XenForo's software.
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Something about the 'targets people for destruction' bit that Johnny Fallout keeps saying just irks the shit out of me. Nearly everything he says just makes me laugh, because he's such a fucking hyperbolic chode, but the 'destruction' part is annoying. It can be misconstrued so easily, and has zero basis in reality whatsoever. The doxing and SWATing had shit they twisted out of context, but the 'targeting for destruction' is out of left fucking field.
 
Something about the 'targets people for destruction' bit that Johnny Fallout keeps saying just irks the shit out of me. Nearly everything he says just makes me laugh, because he's such a fucking hyperbolic chode, but the 'destruction' part is annoying. It can be misconstrued so easily, and has zero basis in reality whatsoever. The doxing and SWATing had shit they twisted out of context, but the 'targeting for destruction' is out of left fucking field.
One of their favorite theories is that the Kiwi Farms just randomly selects people and then makes up everything posted on here about them for the purposes of destroying their life. Even though they also claim everyone knows the Kiwi Farms is lies and nobody reads it anyway. Even as they spend their every waking moment trying to draw more attention to the forum because they think enough people don't know about it.
 
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