Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

Uh.... are you seein' this?

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That's different. These people are shitting their pants because, in their minds, George Soros wrote the Pizzagate article.



Wikipedia does this with every country that has a major territorial dispute:

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Yeah but this is wikipedia. Virtually a mouthpiece for the MSM in certain controversial issues. I didn't expect them to even give an inch on this particular issue.

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Yeah but this is wikipedia. Virtually a mouthpiece for the MSM in certain controversial issues. I didn't expect them to even give an inch on this particular issue.

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I mean, what are they going to do, deny that Russia claims part of Ukraine?
 
In the words of Wikipedia jannies themselves:



Literally "consensus above truth".
What I'd call it is "actual malice." The definition of "actual malice" is reckless disregard for the truth or falsity of defamatory statements.
The blurb you quoted is not from a WIkipedia janny but an anonymous IP mocking this policy.
This is the section of the byuu talk page that discusses the "verifiability not truth" policy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Higan_(emulator)#Added_disputed_template_to_Byuu's_death_source

In this section they decide to keep false material in the article even in light of contradictory evidence.
 
What I'd call it is "actual malice." The definition of "actual malice" is reckless disregard for the truth or falsity of defamatory statements.

This is the section of the byuu talk page that discusses the "verifiability not truth" policy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Higan_(emulator)#Added_disputed_template_to_Byuu's_death_source

In this section they decide to keep false material in the article even in light of contradictory evidence.
Given their feelings about KF, we should count the fact that the discussion wasn't removed and the edit history around them redacted as a win.
 
I mean, what are they going to do, deny that Russia claims part of Ukraine?
Not exactly per say, but if you scour the Talk:Russia archives when Russia originally officially annexed Donetsk etc. you will find alot of hand wringing around "international recognition" in order to stop the current map from being used, was a large discussion at one point (predominately in Archive 15 and 16), take a look at one example of discussion:

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Alot of prolific retards if you have a look on talk pages on articles related feature pushing a pro-Ukro POV so heavily it legitmately hurts. This guy above, Volunteer Marek, a repeat offender who has given himself the life mission of gatekeeping any sense of saying Russia 'annexed/de-facto owns' any part of Ukraine (an objective fact for Crimea etc.) as 'pushing a nationalist POV fantasy' (he then spam tagged some of these pages with Neutrality Disputed tags after he didn't get his way lol)

Some examples on; Simferopol (1), Sevastapol (2) and Autonomous Republic of Crimea (3)
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Not exactly per say, but if you scour the Talk:Russia archives when Russia originally officially annexed Donetsk etc. you will find alot of hand wringing around "international recognition" in order to stop the current map from being used, was a large discussion at one point (predominately in Archive 15 and 16), take a look at one example of discussion:

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Alot of prolific retards if you have a look on talk pages on articles related feature pushing a pro-Ukro POV so heavily it legitmately hurts. This guy above, Volunteer Marek, a repeat offender who has given himself the life mission of gatekeeping any sense of saying Russia 'annexed/de-facto owns' any part of Ukraine (an objective fact for Crimea etc.) as 'pushing a nationalist POV fantasy' (he then spam tagged some of these pages with Neutrality Disputed tags after he didn't get his way lol)

Some examples on; Simferopol (1), Sevastapol (2) and Autonomous Republic of Crimea (3)

People like that can get banned when their autism drives them to obsess over different species of beetle or the history of the 8-track, but when the articles cover what is probably the prelude to WWIII no one says shit. this complaint, lays everything out, and the only response is for Doug Weller, a decent admin during the few times I've had to interact with him, to tell Volunteer Marek about it rather than look into the issue.

He also seems to be a major player in an opaque sprawling arbcom dispute involving articles related to the Holocaust in Poland which has lead to him getting doxed. This is why I never participate in anything anyone cares about.
 
The retardation of their slavish dedication to relying only on mainstream media was never so blatant as when they pretended the 2020 blm riots were ongoing for over two years because the media didn't dare say it ever ended.

Keffals story also ends for "reliable sources" with him defeating the evil Kiwifarms.
 

For zoomers who don't know, Nixon made a speech about taking gifts which included his dog, Checkers. This is known as the Checkers Speech. It has more political relevance than any other presidential pet as far as I know.
Eisenhower's vice president, Richard Nixon, counters critics who claim he took a $18,000 contribution and used it for personal expenses, though he admits that his family dog, Checkers, was a political gift.
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The retardation of their slavish dedication to relying only on mainstream media was never so blatant as when they pretended the 2020 blm riots were ongoing for over two years because the media didn't dare say it ever ended.

Keffals story also ends for "reliable sources" with him defeating the evil Kiwifarms.
They count every gathering of a few people who are mad that a crackheaded nog was blown away as another "event", which is pretty slippery of them. By the way, "BLM riots" doesn't redirect to anything even though there are several valid candidates. God help whoever decides to do something about that.
For zoomers who don't know, Nixon made a speech about taking gifts which included his dog, Checkers. This is known as the Checkers Speech. It has more political relevance than any other presidential pet as far as I know.

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There's a whole page titled "United States presidential pets" which links to articles for pets owned by Reagan, Bush Sr., and W. Someone floated the idea of making an article about Checkers in 2012, but obviously it went nowhere, likely because any mention of Checkers in acceptable sources is just going to say "Checkers was the subject of Nixon's 'Checkers Speech'..." and then discuss the speech. For what it's worth, "Checkers (dog)" has always been a redirect.
 
There's a whole page titled "United States presidential pets" which links to articles for pets owned by Reagan, Bush Sr., and W. Someone floated the idea of making an article about Checkers in 2012, but obviously it went nowhere, likely because any mention of Checkers in acceptable sources is just going to say "Checkers was the subject of Nixon's 'Checkers Speech'..." and then discuss the speech. For what it's worth, "Checkers (dog)" has always been a redirect.
Probably the most famous Presidential pet in history, who was actually involved in an historical event, but the fake encyclopedia doesn't want to include it not for any reason of being encyclopedic but simply because they hate Nixon.

Nice "encyclopedia" you got going there.

There's nothing wrong with the actual Checkers Speech article itself, but there's no reason it couldn't just be part of an article on Checkers.

Fuck these morons.
 
So how was Socks important? What actual historic event was Socks even a part of? Why a separate article for Clinton's cat? The cat never did anything and featured in no actually important events.

The Checkers Speech and why it was a thing was taught to me in high school.

Either there should be a general policy that Presidential pets are important or there shouldn't. Of course you might have a problem with separate articles for all of Teddy Roosevelt's pets (he had a lot and probably more than any other President).
Socks the Cat was very well promoted by the standards of a presidential pet and even got his own video game on Genesis and SNES...or was at least until it entered development hell. According to the latter Wikipedia article, he had his own fan club.
 
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