Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

[Red Hood]

I occasionally do editing on Wikipedia (mostly just fixing up broken links and small spelling errors.) But I have 3 experiences I've had that amused me.

I remember one article had accidentally left a comma in after a period like ". ," [no words after that paragraph]
So I started to fix it. Within 12 hours, I was given a fucking message saying "YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU TOOK OUT THIS MINOR THING" by another user when it clearly wasn't supposed to be there. And he left it back in.

And I remember another where someone vandalized the entirety of the Go Animate page for it to be for a movie called "Go Animate The Movie", and this user wrote down all this weird shit, like the distributor was 20th Century Fox, produced by Warner Bros, saying the movie was released on VHS, DVD, and even fucking Laserdisc in 2001, and that it was critically acclaimed. The user had this shit all thought out. The vandal was so weird that I screencapped the entire thing on my old laptop. (that laptop is kill now rip)


Last one: I remember, for at least a good year, someone vandalized the page for Phil Fish so that his image had the "Mystery of the Druids" guy cleverly photoshoped into the background
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this one edit was so good I didn't even bother fixing it. And it was left in for a year before someone fixed it.

Whoever did that edit is the hero we need.

 

[Raging Capybara]

Black pill
The black pill is a set of beliefs that are commonly held amongst members of incel communities, such as biological determinism, fatalism and defeatism for unattractive people.[66] Someone who believes in the black pill is "blackpilled".[67]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel#Black_pill

 

[Captain Manning]

@Null may be interested to know he has been listed as a designer on Color a Dinosaur for the NES since May of 2016. There's been a lot of edits, and nobody has yet caught it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_a_Dinosaur

 

[Null]

"8pigs" is a reference to 8chan and Infinity Next. No clue what that book is a reference to.

 

[Captain Manning]

"8pigs" is a reference to 8chan and Infinity Next. No clue what that book is a reference to.

It's not a book, it's an NES game. A rather infamous one. Was featured on the awful block of AGDQ once (back when it was fun, and not a troon parade).

Same person vandalized Wikipedia to say you wrote Drake and the 99 Dragons for X-Box. But that was reverted.

I'm guessing this is a diss, since both games are shit.

Also, you're just a "user." LOL.

 

[AnOminous]

It's not a book, it's an NES game. A rather infamous one. Was featured on the awful block of AGDQ once (back when it was fun, and not a troon parade).

I bet most of the people in that thumbnail have trooned out since.

 

[Tehshigelisok]

I've mentioned before a long-term Wikipedia vandal who insists that country music singer Alan Jackson is covering rap and contemporary R&B songs in concert. Apparently that's not their only completely asinine theory.

Apparently they are somehow convinced that Devo and the Eagles are the same band, and that Rodrick Heffley -- i.e, a character from Diary of a Wimpy Kid -- was their drummer. Oh, and apparently the Eagles/Devo are ALSO somehow country-pop singer Thomas Rhett (ETA: AND that all of the above are also the band Bastille).

(that last one is actually from Wikimedia Commons)

Some context: Alan Jackson's music sounds like this or this or this. Even if that's not your kind of music, how the fuck can you think it sounds even remotely like Nickelback, or that it promotes negative stereotypes?

This user has been around since at least 2015, and their first account got indefinitely banned for repeatedly changing genres on country music song articles (ETA: and for having a fuckton of sockpuppet accounts). Apparently anything released since 2004 by a male singer is automatically "bro-country".

As for the point of them not being white -- I recently discovered that this vandal is a Vietnamese transwoman living in Virginia Beach. They got banned from Rate Your Music for constantly one-starring Alan Jackson songs, and have had at least three Twitter accounts banned for harassing me and a couple friends.

 

[AnOminous]

This user has been around since at least 2015, and their first account got indefinitely banned for repeatedly changing genres on country music song articles. Apparently anything released since 2004 by a male singer is automatically "bro-country".

This article itself belongs in Dumb Shit on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bro-country

Note that while this is an article purportedly about a subgenre of encyclopedic importance, if you click the bands actually named in it, they aren't listed as "bro-country" in their own articles.

This whole article smacks of forced meme.

Also I clicked on a couple articles supposedly criticizing this "bro-country" shit by notable people like Willie Nelson and Steve Earle and none of them even fucking mentioned "bro-country" in the footnote cited articles.

Looking at the combo of history and mentions of the term in other parts of the Internet it looks like this was just some shit someone said in 2014 and then some moron made it into an article which has for some reason remained on Wikipedia as if this is an actual thing, and not just some forced meme.

 

[Tehshigelisok]

Note that while this is an article purportedly about a subgenre of encyclopedic importance, if you click the bands actually named in it, they aren't listed as "bro-country" in their own articles.

That's because articles on people are supposed to maintain a neutral point of view (key word "supposed" -- that doesn't always happen, especially when fanboys swarm articles), and using a derogatory genre name in the infobox is not neutral. It's why you don't see artists tagged with things like "mallcore" or "butt rock" or "white guy with guitar", because those are loosely defined "genres" with usually negative connotations.

Florida Georgia Line's article does mention that their music was responsible for the creation of the term in the first place, which is far more neutral than outright calling them "bro-country".

ETA: You're not wrong in your assessment of the article, though.

 

[Captain Manning]

BTW, that edit on Color a Dinosaur is now gone after I posted about it here. Almost three years after it was done. It was deleted by a long-time Wikipedia editor (TenPoundHammer).

I'm guessing they monitor KF for signs of vandalism.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I've mentioned before a long-term Wikipedia vandal who insists that country music singer Alan Jackson is covering rap and contemporary R&B songs in concert. Apparently that's not their only completely asinine theory.

Apparently they are somehow convinced that Devo and the Eagles are the same band, and that Rodrick Heffley -- i.e, a character from Diary of a Wimpy Kid -- was their drummer. Oh, and apparently the Eagles/Devo are ALSO somehow country-pop singer Thomas Rhett (ETA: AND that all of the above are also the band Bastille).

(that last one is actually from Wikimedia Commons)

Some context: Alan Jackson's music sounds like this or this or this. Even if that's not your kind of music, how the fuck can you think it sounds even remotely like Nickelback, or that it promotes negative stereotypes?

This user has been around since at least 2015, and their first account got indefinitely banned for repeatedly changing genres on country music song articles (ETA: and for having a fuckton of sockpuppet accounts). Apparently anything released since 2004 by a male singer is automatically "bro-country".

As for the point of them not being white -- I recently discovered that this vandal is a Vietnamese transwoman living in Virginia Beach. They got banned from Rate Your Music for constantly one-starring Alan Jackson songs, and have had at least three Twitter accounts banned for harassing me and a couple friends.

Got any links to their Twitter or RYM? I need to more about why this troon has such a hate[lady]boner for Alan Jackson.

This article itself belongs in Dumb Shit on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bro-country

Note that while this is an article purportedly about a subgenre of encyclopedic importance, if you click the bands actually named in it, they aren't listed as "bro-country" in their own articles.

This whole article smacks of forced meme.

Also I clicked on a couple articles supposedly criticizing this "bro-country" shit by notable people like Willie Nelson and Steve Earle and none of them even fucking mentioned "bro-country" in the footnote cited articles.

Looking at the combo of history and mentions of the term in other parts of the Internet it looks like this was just some shit someone said in 2014 and then some moron made it into an article which has for some reason remained on Wikipedia as if this is an actual thing, and not just some forced meme.

The term got a ton of press a few years ago even though most of the singers involved later criticized it. Given that it's an actual style of country music which doesn't sound like other country music and got a bunch of press, that's pretty much the textbook definition of what a sub genre of encyclopedic importance should be.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

Tbh I would pay good money to see Alan Jackson do rap and contemporary r&b songs in concert

 

[Tehshigelisok]

Got any links to their Twitter or RYM? I need to more about why this troon has such a hate[lady]boner for Alan Jackson.

this is her most recent twitter. The RYM page was taken down when she got the banhammer, but I think one of my friends screencapped it at some point.

At one point she posted "evidence" in the form of her potato-camming concert footage off YouTube while playing Jay-Z or some shit in the background on a stereo. She also vandalized a setlist database repeatedly, but even after multiple notifications their admins apparently don't give a fuck.

 

[AnOminous]

The term got a ton of press a few years ago even though most of the singers involved later criticized it. Given that it's an actual style of country music which doesn't sound like other country music and got a bunch of press, that's pretty much the textbook definition of what a sub genre of encyclopedic importance should be.

It hasn't even been mentioned since. It's just a snarl word that nobody actually uses. And none of these bands have it listed as their genre either. Almost all of the sources cited are bogus and don't even mention the phrase at all.

 

[Dunce Confederacy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozart_and_scatology

"Well, I wish you good night
But first shit in your bed and make it burst.
Sleep soundly, my love
Into your mouth your arse you'll shove."

 

[ProgKing of the North]

It hasn't even been mentioned since. It's just a snarl word that nobody actually uses. And none of these bands have it listed as their genre either. Almost all of the sources cited are bogus and don't even mention the phrase at all.

It's like "hair metal" or "nu-metal" or "MOR/arena rock" in that it's almost always used as a pejorative and bands don't really like to use it to describe itself, but it's definitely a thing that exists, and is an easier term than "white-boy rap with a southern accent marketed towards suburban frat boys LARPing as rednecks"

 

[AnOminous]

It's like "hair metal" or "nu-metal" or "MOR/arena rock" in that it's almost always used as a pejorative and bands don't really like to use it to describe itself, but it's definitely a thing that exists, and is an easier term than "white-boy rap with a southern accent marketed towards suburban frat boys LARPing as rednecks"

Go to Limp Bizkit's article, though, and there it is, "nu metal," in the list of genres. It's an actual term that's regularly used, not some thing that was mentioned in 2014.

 

[Captain Manning]

"Hair metal" is a term that's in common usage WITHIN the metal scene. It's a bit of a pejorative, but only because the scene itself grew tired of the aesthetic and gimmick. It's also mostly a dead subgenre, and is useful for historical commentary.

In contrast, "bro-country" was adopted by an outsider (a New Yorker, no less). It's my understanding that the country scene has basically rejected it, and is going to keep on writing songs about dogs, girls, and pickup trucks, regardless of what the city folk think. They ain't the one buying their records, so why should they give a fuck?

 

[AnOminous]

In contrast, "bro-country" was adopted by an outsider (a New Yorker, no less).

Use of "bro" as a derogatory term isn't even a country thing, at all. It's a hipster/SJW thing to loathe "bros" and anything remotely male.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

well whatever they call it it's absolute shit