Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

[Fat Tub of Lard]

They actually used this photo as the header for the UTR rally in 2017
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Watcha' doin with that obviously folded up swastika flag Mr Fed?

That's a false flag if I ever saw one.

 

[BiggerChungus]

There are exceptions, the aforementioned earlier military fans who fought the deletion of Panzer aces,

I wish I hadn't looked up what this was about, because now I'm mad at the internet. The chick's page is complete lunacy.

It's even worse that she insists she's defending a neutral point of view while simultaneously describing herself as a "hardline anti-Nazi" who tries to remove or reword every single WWII article in existence that isn't hyperaggressively critical of Nazi Germany.

"Problematic WWII content"
Go fuck yourself with this 1984esque rewriting of history bullshit.

 

[AnOminous]

Ok that 'did you know' template allowed me to find it on internet archive. The title was 'Donald Trump and handshakes'

Did you know that nearly all politicians do not engage in normal handshakes for security reasons and for the sake of appearance? If someone jerks on their hand, they can pull them onto a knife or even if they just get knocked off balance it can fuck up their campaign.

Politicians "shake hands" like this.

Notice how they do it so they can easily disengage?

 

[BootlegPopeye]

Did you know that nearly all politicians do not engage in normal handshakes for security reasons and for the sake of appearance? If someone jerks on their hand, they can pull them onto a knife or even if they just get knocked off balance it can fuck up their campaign.

Politicians "shake hands" like this.

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Notice how they do it so they can easily disengage?

Oh yeah, I am sure Trump (and every recent President) was warned/trained about this when they came into office, not only for disengaging reasons, but also because they want to have certain types for certain leaders. For instance, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump practiced exactly how to hand shake for the meeting with Kim Jong Un.

I wish I hadn't looked up what this was about, because now I'm mad at the internet. The chick's page is complete lunacy.

It's even worse that she insists she's defending a neutral point of view while simultaneously describing herself as a "hardline anti-Nazi" who tries to remove or reword every single WWII article in existence that isn't hyperaggressively critical of Nazi Germany.
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"Problematic WWII content"
Go fuck yourself with this 1984esque rewriting of history bullshit.

She doesn't actually know shit about the military either, so she doesn't understand what is and isn't important. It is solely in the name of political activism. Someone else said she is a Soviet apologist, but I didn't see evidence of that when I looked.

An aside, those barnstars that Wikipedos give out to each other are fucking gay.

 

[Corpun]

A bit off-topic, but I agree this is suspicious. There was an article by a participant who observed "the presence of at least one Nazi flag" but added,

I don't think most people would know where to buy one either; it reminds me of Extras:

Back on topic, I wonder how many hundreds of photos the Wiki editors had to pick through to find one with framing that portrays the rally exactly how they want.

Makes me wonder if the totally not a fed at Jan 6 carrying a Confederate Battle Flag has his photo on the Jan 6 page.

I wish I hadn't looked up what this was about, because now I'm mad at the internet. The chick's page is complete lunacy.

It's even worse that she insists she's defending a neutral point of view while simultaneously describing herself as a "hardline anti-Nazi" who tries to remove or reword every single WWII article in existence that isn't hyperaggressively critical of Nazi Germany.
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"Problematic WWII content"
Go fuck yourself with this 1984esque rewriting of history bullshit.

She doesn't actually know shit about the military either, so she doesn't understand what is and isn't important. It is solely in the name of political activism. Someone else said she is a Soviet apologist, but I didn't see evidence of that when I looked.

It's worst than that. Not only is she a Soviet apologist who will likely be moving onto lowering numbers of victims for Soviet warcrimes, but is an ethnic Jew who has a persecution complex and gets off on changing history of the bad people who threw her in an oven twelve times.

If there is one person you don't want doing WW2 history it is a Jewish woman who can't put her own persecution complex aside. It's shit like that that ends up annoying everyone. Case in point a local antique/militaria shop near me used to sell Third Reich artifacts people gave to them or wanted sold. At some point a elderly Jewish women came in, saw an Iron Cross or some shit and threatened to complain to her Synagogue about them selling that stuff to prospective buyers.

Now it, like a number of other militaria venues has to have autistic regulations on Third Reich memorabilia because a tiny minority throws a fit.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

Now it, like a number of other militaria venues has to have autistic regulations on Third Reich memorabilia because a tiny minority throws a fit.

Maybe for some big names, but for regular shows/gun sites/militaria dealers, there are simply too many for them to bitch to. I sold a ton of German militaria to a dealer here (bayonets, uniforms, gun parts, Flak fuse crates, etc) and he enthusiastically bought all of it without a second thought - because it sells - the next time I went there, all of the stuff I sold him was already resold. I've also sold him American and Korean militaria - we don't discriminate, it's all militaria to us. The dealer is a guy whose father was in the 101st Airborne in WW2 so hardly a Nazi fan himself.

People like her are unable to understand that not every person evaluates the moral justness of every cause or battle ever fought in dealing with the wares and personalities of the players. This goes for wikipedia or militaria dealers. I don't make a 'moral' choice about the cause of the Roman Empire simply because I have a few Roman coins on my want list for my collection.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I wish I hadn't looked up what this was about, because now I'm mad at the internet. The chick's page is complete lunacy.

It's even worse that she insists she's defending a neutral point of view while simultaneously describing herself as a "hardline anti-Nazi" who tries to remove or reword every single WWII article in existence that isn't hyperaggressively critical of Nazi Germany.
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"Problematic WWII content"
Go fuck yourself with this 1984esque rewriting of history bullshit.

the same kind of people who will constantly rewrite Fidel Castro's page to erase even the slightest hint at him being a dictator or ever doing anything wrong

 

[WhiteNight]

Case in point a local antique/militaria shop near me used to sell Third Reich artifacts people gave to them or wanted sold. At some point a elderly Jewish women came in, saw an Iron Cross or some shit and threatened to complain to her Synagogue about them selling that stuff to prospective buyers.

There are even dumber examples than that. There was once this Pokemon card:

It was sold only in Japan, where the swastika has positive associations. Through card trading, however, some made their way to America, provoking fits of indignation, up to and including denunciation by the ADL. Nintendo capitulated, announcing they would no longer manufacture the card anywhere in the world, in order to appease these pearl-clutching ethnocentrists.

 

[BiggerChungus]

She doesn't actually know shit about the military either, so she doesn't understand what is and isn't important. It is solely in the name of political activism. Someone else said she is a Soviet apologist, but I didn't see evidence of that when I looked.

That would take the cake.
"Panzer aces? No no comrade, is 100% unadulterated Wehrmacht propaganda."
"Rape of Berlin? Also is 100% unadulterated Wehrmacht propaganda."

Maybe for some big names, but for regular shows/gun sites/militaria dealers, there are simply too many for them to bitch to. I sold a ton of German militaria to a dealer here (bayonets, uniforms, gun parts, Flak fuse crates, etc) and he enthusiastically bought all of it without a second thought - because it sells - the next time I went there, all of the stuff I sold him was already resold. I've also sold him American and Korean militaria - we don't discriminate, it's all militaria to us. The dealer is a guy whose father was in the 101st Airborne in WW2 so hardly a Nazi fan himself.

People need to learn from the Star Wars shop guy who stood up to a tranny politician demanding he apologize for a sign he had displayed. When these screeching idiots come in telling you you're an evil racist nazi bigot monster, you tell them to fuck off. When the media calls you an evil racist nazi bigot monster, you tell them to fuck off. Two months later his shop's going strong, he got a lot of support and new customers, and the media and troon alike have never uttered a word about it since.

I guarantee the Wikipedia lady's "career" started similarly. A few small edits here and there for "problematic" content, no one wanted to be labeled as a bigot or a nazi so no one stopped her, and now we're to the point where she's trying to say listing Iron Cross recipients is nazi propaganda and she's getting awards from the admins for it.

 

[Corpun]

Maybe for some big names, but for regular shows/gun sites/militaria dealers, there are simply too many for them to bitch to. I sold a ton of German militaria to a dealer here (bayonets, uniforms, gun parts, Flak fuse crates, etc) and he enthusiastically bought all of it without a second thought - because it sells - the next time I went there, all of the stuff I sold him was already resold. I've also sold him American and Korean militaria - we don't discriminate, it's all militaria to us. The dealer is a guy whose father was in the 101st Airborne in WW2 so hardly a Nazi fan himself.

People like her are unable to understand that not every person evaluates the moral justness of every cause or battle ever fought in dealing with the wares and personalities of the players. This goes for wikipedia or militaria dealers. I don't make a 'moral' choice about the cause of the Roman Empire simply because I have a few Roman coins on my want list for my collection.

I recent exhibition I went to had some autistic rules, maybe it was a little big given the number of people from several states over in attendance but even at small ones you'll have autistic rules on No-No memorabilia and how it's displayed because there will always be one retard ready to bitch and make it a battle to win.

There are even dumber examples than that. There was once this Pokemon card:
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It was sold only in Japan, where the swastika has positive associations. Through card trading, however, some made their way to America, provoking fits of indignation, up to and including denunciation by the ADL. Nintendo capitulated, announcing they would no longer manufacture the card anywhere in the world, in order to appease these pearl-clutching ethnocentrists.

I sometimes wonder if the ADL and similar groups will ever not cry antisemitism to get their way. It's fucking sickening, especially when you remember those assholes blackmailed Iceland into not banning Male Genital Mutilation.

the same kind of people who will constantly rewrite Fidel Castro's page to erase even the slightest hint at him being a dictator or ever doing anything wrong

You mean Castro wasn't a wholesome 100 dictator who dindu nuffin wrong? I'm betting Che's page says nothing on his views of gays and blacks as well.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

You mean Castro wasn't a wholesome 100 dictator who dindu nuffin wrong?

No,no, he was loved by 99.9% of Cuban people . literacy went up to 2 million percent, Cuban doctors heal people with the best santeria spells the world and everything wrong with Cuba is CIA or the embargo. Even though Cuba can still trade with every other country and a communist country should not be whining about not being able to practice capitalism in the first place but oh well

 

[Corpun]

No,no, he was loved by 99.9% of Cuban people . literacy went up to 2 million percent, Cuban doctors heal people with the best santeria spells the world and everything wrong with Cuba is CIA or the embargo. Even though Cuba can still trade with every other country and a communist country should not be whining about not being able to practice capitalism in the first place but oh well

Thanks, almost fell into believing CIA propaganda, just like how Allende was totally a great guy and wasn't on the stepping stones of turning Chile into a communist state in order to secure his very slim electoral victory.

 

[WhiteNight]

Also, Wikipedia assures me that white farmers being murdered in South Africa is just a white supremacist conspiracy theory:

South African farm attacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Corpun]

Also, Wikipedia assures me that white farmers being murdered in South Africa is just a white supremacist conspiracy theory:

South African farm attacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bear in mind Wikipedians attempt to say the Peace and Reconciliation commission (Which pardoned black murderers) didn't go far enough in making South Africa equal as white politicians didn't get justice for apartheid done on them.

 

[Tootsie Bear]

Also, Wikipedia assures me that white farmers being murdered in South Africa is just a white supremacist conspiracy theory:

South African farm attacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

When you paint something as a conspiracy it's easier to dismiss. Unfortunately most conspiracy theorists come across as hostile and their conspiracies offend the families of the victims as in the Sandy Hook shooting or Boston bombing. As such the media and YouTube can easily paint them as crazed people who are akin to the street preachers you'll see yelling at you on the street.

 

[Trig.Point]

There are exceptions, the aforementioned earlier military fans who fought the deletion of Panzer aces,

However the Panzer Ace article has been fucked. For starters it doesn't even have a list of aces any more. The article tries to make the point that the reason the whole concept of the Panzer Ace is important, is a that a relatively small percentage of tank commanders accounted for the majority of destroyed enemy tanks. The Talk page is just a shit show, with certain people passive aggresively crybullying constanly.

Talk:Panzer ace - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If you do a search for Panzer Aces rather than Panzer Ace, it brings your to an entry on the book Panzer Aces, which the article implies is the reason the whole concept of the Panzer Ace entered the public sphere.

Incidentally I think the reason the Wikipedia Tanny Jannies pulled back on this, was that there are plenty of alternative military history sites including Wiki's online. At some level they still want Wikipedia to be the Authoritive website.

 

[WhiteNight]

Bear in mind Wikipedians attempt to say the Peace and Reconciliation commission (Which pardoned black murderers) didn't go far enough in making South Africa equal as white politicians didn't get justice for apartheid done on them.

By comparison, it's wonderful that Amy Biehl's murderers were set free, because they killed her savagely for being white. If they'd, for example, just killed her for her purse, they might have been in prison longer.

 

[BiggerChungus]

When you paint something as a conspiracy it's easier to dismiss. Unfortunately most conspiracy theorists come across as hostile and their conspiracies offend the families of the victims as in the Sandy Hook shooting or Boston bombing. As such the media and YouTube can easily paint them as crazed people who are akin to the street preachers you'll see yelling at you on the street.

Or you get controlled opposition types like Alex Jones who discredit the fuck out of otherwise sensible theories. "Cabal of bankers with way too much power" but add on "WHO ARE SHAPESHIFTING ALIEN LIZARD VAMPIRES RAAAAGH, anyway buy my water filters for $99.99." It's an easy but effective effort to make anything that could be considered a conspiracy seem crazy and not worth ever considering or looking into.

No,no, he was loved by 99.9% of Cuban people . literacy went up to 2 million percent, Cuban doctors heal people with the best santeria spells the world and everything wrong with Cuba is CIA or the embargo. Even though Cuba can still trade with every other country and a communist country should not be whining about not being able to practice capitalism in the first place but oh well

"Holodomor? Haha, you so funny comrade!"

 

[WhiteNight]

"Holodomor? Haha, you so funny comrade!"

Way back in 2005, there were repeated efforts to get rid of the Holodomor article, and just have it redirect to "Collectivization in the USSR". Fortunately, after a lot of arguing, these efforts failed.

An example past discussion on the talk page.

 

[Corpun]

However the Panzer Ace article has been fucked. For starters it doesn't even have a list of aces any more. The article tries to make the point that the reason the whole concept of the Panzer Ace is important, is a that a relatively small percentage of tank commanders accounted for the majority of destroyed enemy tanks. The Talk page is just a shit show, with certain people passive aggresively crybullying constanly.

If they are going to sperg about tank aces, they'd better sperg about flying aces as well, but all of this is explicitly because we can't celebrate accomplishments or this German soldier or that German soldier.

Way back in 2005, there were repeated efforts to get rid of the Holodomor article, and just have it redirect to "Collectivization in the USSR". Fortunately, after a lot of arguing, these efforts failed.

An example past discussion on the talk page.

Given the state of articles on Mao's murder of landowners I fully expect the Holodomor and similar Soviet warcrimes to be remodeled due to Nazi propaganda or something.