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There is probably some legal bullshit like the photography issue Wikipedia jannies have but I hate that most articles on songs don't have th lyrics of said song. Like if I am looking a song up on it I probably want more than it's inspiration, times it was sung, etc.
From The Uncanny Valley said:
Public Universal Friend had literal brain damage :c
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Sorry sweetie she was a trans nobinary queen who slayed!
RobertDole said:
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I would've thought these would have been tied.
 
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Have you ever wondered about the Lahnstein family from the 1995 German soap opera, Verbotene Liebe? If so, Wikipedia has you covered with a 4000+ word article, complete with a family tree, which doesn't include a single source. Apparently they are known for their "conversations on the dinner table." Sounds uncomfortable. The infobox also provides some helpful context about this fictional family:
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Corpun said:
There is probably some legal bullshit like the photography issue Wikipedia jannies have but I hate that most articles on songs don't have th lyrics of said song. Like if I am looking a song up on it I probably want more than it's inspiration, times it was sung, etc.
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That would be literally hugely illegal wholesale copyright infringement. They'd be immediately sued out of existence for copyright infringement. They don't bother going after these rinky dink lyric sites any more but you can damn well bet they'd go after Wikipedia.

Come to think of it though, I'd almost rather have an RIAA-owned Wikipedia than one run by the current vermin infesting it.

This is also why there are often low quality public domain pictures of article subjects. I also think they spitefully pick the ugliest picture they can find of someone who doesn't care enough to kiss the ring and give them permission for one.
 
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Have you ever wondered about the Lahnstein family from the 1995 German soap opera, Verbotene Liebe? If so, Wikipedia has you covered with a 4000+ word article, complete with a family tree, which doesn't include a single source. Apparently they are known for their "conversations on the dinner table." Sounds uncomfortable. The infobox also provides some helpful context about this fictional family:
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Sounds relatable.
 
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Then they play word games with well it doesn't say 'birth name' it says 'formerly known as' - yeah, it's more like they don't have a good reason except that they want to, similar to Molly White's 'non notability' excuse for censoring Chris-Chan's name on the KF article (maybe we should remove passing mentions of anyone 'non notable' from all articles, see how they like that one). It's clear that Wikipedia has on the fly rules from powerful editors, and this is another such case.
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WP: OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument. Please refrain from making pointy edits (see WP: POINTY) or else I will bring your behavior to the attention of the admins. Further edits which violate WP: DE will be taken before WP:AN/I, at which point I expect you to be permanently banned. Consider this your final warning!

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Applying rules consistently is not only autistic, but borders on WP:FRINGE, as strict adherence to such rules is a key component of the widely-debunked theories of textualism and originalism advocated by far-right racists like Clarence Thomas. Insistence that rules be logically consistent and fairly applied is a key talking point of extremists who advocate for white supremacist and structurally biased systems of oppression such as "The Rule of Law".

Here at Wikipedia, we don't have rules, only guidelines. To quote Wikipedia's 5th Pillar:
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So as editors, our job is to make Wikipedia an inclusive space for all. And in a world that is increasingly dangerous for minorities, we must take stances that are WP:BOLD. To protect our most vulnerable members, we must embrace WP:IAR, which states that "If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it."

Much like an activist judiciary, we follow a philosophy that treats the rules of Wikipedia as a Living Constitution. As the world changes, so do our interpretations of the rules. The arc of history bends towards social justice and trans rights, and in the current year of 2022, we stand united as Wikipedia admins, refusing to let others stand in the way.
 
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I found the wiki page for "terminal illness" to be really heavily biased. It gives some good basic information on palliative care and whatnot but it's clear they aren't writing this impartially. For example, they list virtually every major health org being against assisted suicide but then bring up three orgs no one has ever heard of as a counterpoint and claim there are many more but don't mention who they are:
Other groups such as the American Medical Students Association, the American Public Health Association, the American Medical Women's Association, and more support PAS as an act of compassion for the suffering patient.[33]
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Their section on major non-religious arguments against assisted suicide is a total strawman and doesn't even go into cost cutting measures (cheaper to kill someone) and disability rights which are obviously more important secular arguments than the ones they pulled out of their ass:
While some groups believe in personal choice over death, others raise concerns regarding insurance policies and potential for abuse. According to Sulmasy et al., the major non-religious arguments against physician-assisted suicide are quoted as follows:

(1) "it offends me", suicide devalues human life;
(2) slippery slope, the limits on euthanasia gradually erode;
(3) "pain can be alleviated", palliative care and modern therapeutics more and more adequately manage pain;
(4) physician integrity and patient trust, participating in suicide violates the integrity of the physician and undermines the trust patients place in physicians to heal and not to harm"[35]
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"It offends me" and "slippery slope" are the top two reasons, really?! That just seems to be written in a way to get people with similar beliefs to dismiss the opposition.
They also claim that people who are actively dying choose to not interact with people much. How do you know it's a choice and not just that their body is shutting down and they can't do very much anymore?
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Sparkling Yuzu said:
They also claim that people who are actively dying choose to not interact with people much. How do you know it's a choice and not just that their body is shutting down and they can't do very much anymore?
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That's a perfect example of how wikipedos insert propaganda into articles, writing them like a legal brief, deemphasizing the stronger arguments they oppose while emphasizing the weak ones. This is a particularly crude example of this sort of fake encyclopedia article that is actually covertly making an argument for one side. Picking the word "choose" really jumps right out, like saying a one-legged man CHOSE not to run the Boston Marathon.
 
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AnOminous said:
That's a perfect example of how wikipedos insert propaganda into articles, writing them like a legal brief, deemphasizing the stronger arguments they oppose while emphasizing the weak ones. This is a particularly crude example of this sort of fake encyclopedia article that is actually covertly making an argument for one side. Picking the word "choose" really jumps right out, like saying a one-legged man CHOSE not to run the Boston Marathon.
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Another old (infamous) example of this is the article for bras, which to this day reads like a prosecutor's case against bra wearing by women.
 
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Starbuxxx said:
Have you ever wondered about the Lahnstein family from the 1995 German soap opera, Verbotene Liebe? If so, Wikipedia has you covered with a 4000+ word article, complete with a family tree, which doesn't include a single source. Apparently they are known for their "conversations on the dinner table." Sounds uncomfortable. The infobox also provides some helpful context about this fictional family:
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I do not think adultery, secrets and illegitimate children are indicative of high morals.

Also lol that the Sonic the Hedgehog article has over 500 citations, as many as the damn United States of America article. Strangely Pokemon is nowhere near as...extensive.
 
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Starbuxxx said:
Have you ever wondered about the Lahnstein family from the 1995 German soap opera, Verbotene Liebe? If so, Wikipedia has you covered with a 4000+ word article, complete with a family tree, which doesn't include a single source. Apparently they are known for their "conversations on the dinner table." Sounds uncomfortable. The infobox also provides some helpful context about this fictional family:
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Not only that but I'm pretty sure that all of the articles about each individual character in the show were written by either the same person or a group of people who are all ESL. Which makes sense considering almost no one would know about this show besides German soap opera fans.
 
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scathefire said:
Not only that but I'm pretty sure that all of the articles about each individual character in the show were written by either the same person or a group of people who are all ESL. Which makes sense considering almost no one would know about this show besides German soap opera fans.
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You know what, maybe that's what it was...some kind of ESL project. Picked something obscure that wouldn't be immediately edited and work on their language skills.

Really does make sense, otherwise I have no idea why someone would write a Wikipedia article in their second language.
 
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