Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

[Becky McDonald]

I brought it up a bit earlier in the thread, but a LOT of world history outside of the Anglosphere is undocumented and unknown.

Even modern history. Stock Car Brasil is one of the most popular motorsport series in Brazil, and has often attracted some really big names like Rubens Barrichello, Felipe Massa and Jacques Villeneuve. All (or at least many) of the races since its 1979 inception were filmed and broadcast on TV. And yet, all that remains are some dog-eared, secondhand home video recordings of select races on YouTube, with little to no photographs online and a lot of missing documentation.

We don't know how entire seasons of this sport went, because we don't have any documentation available, not even in its native Portuguese. And this is from events that happened less than 50 years ago and had thousands of eyewitnesses present.

 

[JJLiautaud]

I brought it up a bit earlier in the thread, but a LOT of world history outside of the Anglosphere is undocumented and unknown.

Even modern history. Stock Car Brasil is one of the most popular motorsport series in Brazil, and has often attracted some really big names like Rubens Barrichello, Felipe Massa and Jacques Villeneuve. All (or at least many) of the races since its 1979 inception were filmed and broadcast on TV. And yet, all that remains are some dog-eared, secondhand home video recordings of select races on YouTube, with little to no photographs online and a lot of missing documentation.

We don't know how entire seasons of this sport went, because we don't have any documentation available, not even in its native Portuguese. And this is from events that happened less than 50 years ago and had thousands of eyewitnesses present.

Is this basically nascar with people taking right turns?

 

[RobertDole]

This Athaenara case (a Wikipedia admin with a 16-year editing history who once contradicted a troon's gender identity, admittedly rudely, may be banned forever) is the gift that keeps giving:

• The ArbCom case page has 85 users commenting on it (not counting the arbitrators), so far.
• There is now a subsidiary arbitration case on the same page over a single accusation of conflict of interest for one admin's involvement, which now has 20 users commenting.
• Admin noticeboard incidents now has three sections devoted to endlessly long discussion of the fine points of what to do about this grievous crime against troondom, with subsections with counter-proposals.

All of this over a single 46-word comment in an RfA which was deleted within minutes.

Highlights:

User Tamzin (discussed earlier in this thread, identifies as a multiplicity) has pored over Athaenara's RfA/RfB vote history to find evidence that she is biased:
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Molly White aka GorillaWarfare of course weighed in on the RfAr; I'll quote one paragraph:View attachment 3737034

And on and on in that vein. Lots of squealing about the "harm" and "hurt" that such comments cause (seeing a contrary opinion on your computer screen, oh my!).

It's instructive to compare to cases such as the Confederate-sympathizing editor from earlier in this thread, who was piled on and called a racist, a fascist, a Nazi. This is not at all uncommon. I have seen several editors get WP:NONAZIS thrown at them. Yet there seems to be no concern that such attacks might be "hurtful" or harmful. Indeed, there is potential for real-world harm if such an account is linked to a real person, and anyone can see Wikipedia admins calling them a racist. There is no equivalent harm to a troon because someone attacked xir on Wikipedia.

As of now, Athaenara has been desysopped and subjected to a series of topic bans appealable after a year, with discussion ongoing as to whether to turn the current indefinite block into a permanent community ban. A few editors have chimed in saying this is all an overreaction, but they appear to be a minority.

I finally read through some of the Athaenara case, and now I'm even more confused by the whole thing. It's not the outcome that is surprising (given what we know about Wikipedia). It's Athaenara's seemingly "unprovoked outburst" that seems off. The case makes it seem completely random -- 16 years of being a nice person, then suddenly... a very angry anti-troon comment on an otherwise non-contentious nomination page.

I find that hard to believe. There has to be more to this whole backstory. Was it personal? Was she fighting with this specific troon over something else? Had she been targeted by troons in some other incident in the past? Was there some past "women only" election she lost?

 

[Becky McDonald]

Pussy, Savoie - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The name derives from the Roman personal name Pussius, which refers to the owner of the place in the Roman era.

As funny as this is, there does not appear to be a name such as "Pussius" ever recorded. Looking up the name simply gives you results for the French town.
There was a 16th Century canon by the name of "Pussius", but that's literally it. Nothing that tells you what "Pussius" means or what its conjugates are in modern naming or even if it was a surname in the case of the latter. If Pussius was in fact a name, what did it mean?

John le Fucker - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Compare that to John Le Fucker, who most scholars agree was simply an unfortunately spelled variation of an otherwise-inoffensive surname.

 

[I Love Huge Long Chode]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_example

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[306h4Ge5eJUJ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_example
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God tier trolling by the IP. He knows exactly how Wikipedia works.

 

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John le Fucker - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Compare that to John Le Fucker, who most scholars agree was simply an unfortunately spelled variation of an otherwise-inoffensive surname.

Apparently John Le Fucker has fans in China

約翰·勒·福克 - 維基大典

zh-classical.wikipedia.org

As does a certain Roger Fuckebythenavele (whose English Wikipedia article has been merged with the article on "Fuck")

羅格·弗克苯海拉明 - 維基大典

zh-classical.wikipedia.org

Note that this isn't the regular Chinese Wikipedia, this is the Classical Chinese Wikipedia where the rules are "LARP as an Imperial Chinese scholar and write only in the literary Chinese of centuries ago."

 

[Sicko Hunter]

Since Kanye's jew rant Wikipedia neckbeards have gone out of their way to rewrite his childhood.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

And as soon as the right comes up with their own catchy political phrase, the backlash against it swift and severe. Just look at "groomer" -- went from virtually unknown to hate speech that is banned across all social media platforms within a matter of months. Wikipedia won't even let the word have its own article. Instead it gets the following title: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_grooming_conspiracy_theory

"Everything I don't like is a conspiracy theory" -wikipedo editors.

 

[AnOminous]

Since Kanye's jew rant Wikipedia neckbeards have gone out of their way to rewrite his childhood.

And we're supposed to consider this an "encyclopedia" when it immediately takes revenge on someone by re-writing their childhood the instant he expresses an opinion they don't like.

Yeah.

"Encyclopedia."

Lmao.

 

[RobertDole]

I was reading through the "suppression log" page and this section caught my eye: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Oversight#Privacy_of_account_renames

The suppression of any account rename logs, as well as any logs that are generated from any subsequent page moves, redirect placements, or other operations performed as a result of the account rename process, will not be granted. This is true even if the original username is the real name of the editor.

Requests to hide old account names won't be granted... even if it's someone's real name? Well, how about if it is someone's deadname? Has a troon fought wikipedia over this yet? If not, it's only a matter of time -- would definitely make for some popcorn worthy drama.

If they allowed the change, it would be an amazing loophole. Think of all the people claiming to be trans just to get their name scrubbed from their embarrassing wiki activity. Either there would be a ton of abuse or the Wikipedos would have to set up some type of "prove you a really trans" test, which of course is probably transphobic itself. Lots of drama potential here.

 

[Francine StripeCheer]

They all fucking do. Keffals, Yaniv and Challenor to name a few. They have the power to do things online that normal netizens couldn't even fathom. They can get your sites pulled, your accounts banned, all the way up to making the very mention of your name cause an instant shadowban.

almost as if there's somehting about being a tranny and being a computer guy, as if there was some sort of condition both sorts of person had...'

 

[Corpun]

Since Kanye's jew rant Wikipedia neckbeards have gone out of their way to rewrite his childhood.
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It's sourced though so I'm sure it is true.

 

[JJLiautaud]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalry_scout
In the databox Armored Corps links to the Israeli Armoured Corps which is hilarious.

It's sourced though so I'm sure it is true.

Yeah its true, and been known for a while now Kanye isn't a hood rat he grew up in a fairly nice neighborhood.

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

And we're supposed to consider this an "encyclopedia" when it immediately takes revenge on someone by re-writing their childhood the instant he expresses an opinion they don't like.

Yeah.

"Encyclopedia."

Lmao.

This is why teachers and professors say "Wikipedia is not a serious source," because shit like that is extremely easy to pull off and retards use Wikipedia like it fell from Heaven. As long as it supports the Current Thing, it's allowed.

 

[Idiot Asshole]

This is why teachers and professors say "Wikipedia is not a serious source," because shit like that is extremely easy to pull off and retards use Wikipedia like it fell from Heaven. As long as it supports the Current Thing, it's allowed.

My favorite example of how easy it is to fool people with a simple Wiki edit: A few years ago some dude managed to bluff his way past security at a concert and have a few beers with the band just by whipping his phone out and editing himself into their Wikipedia article a few minutes beforehand.

IT'S THAT EASY (AND IN THIS CASE, FUNNY)

 

[BlueSpark]

This was cute (from Adam West's article):

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

This was cute (from Adam West's article):

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Wikipedia for once saluting Adam West while also having a sense of humor?

Now the last part is a shocker, I tell you.

 

[Oats12345]

Wikipedia for once saluting Adam West while also having a sense of humor?

Now the last part is a shocker, I tell you.

Adam West is just that awesome

 

[Corpun]

Anyone seen the article on the Paul Pelosi attack yet? There's so many usages of the word 'baseless', 'conspiracy theory' etc. because how dare you question the official narrative on the worst attack on our democracy since, checks notes, Jan 6!