Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

[Sayer of the N-Word]

Speaking of GG figures, I am really surprised that there isn't even a mention of Brianna Wu being a tranny in the talk page. I understand that KF can't be cited and so it's not going to appear in the article, but when there's a rumor about someone it should inevitably comes up in the talk page. A trawl through the edit history of the page has turned up this series of deleted edits, the summaries of which don't seem to be about tranny stuff, and edits here, here, here, and especially here. That last one includes an edit that was nuked so hard even the username is gone.

I took a look at his main page to see if there were any vandals who got sniped, but it doesn't have nearly as many erased edits. However, I did find one series of interesting edit summaries. In late September 2015, we have these:

Connor Behan: "Citing the interview suggested by someone on the talk page." followed by a second summary that reads "Categories consistent with how various sources describe her". The first edit was probably several sentenes long and the second was short and consistent with the addition of several categories.

Dumuzid reverts t he edits, saying: "Gamergate-related harassment: removing unsubstantiated gossip about private matters (even though from a reliable source)"

Two days later HJ Mitchell restricted edits to autoconfirmed users for three years.

However, the source in question seems to be this puff piece where he gets interviewed about his morning routine and other inanities. No mention of dilation. If this is the source, then it's a big bust.

I'm totally baffled. Maybe one person has called him out on being a tranny in nine years?? His article doesn't even have an LGBT category even though he claims to be bisexual. This is really hardcore omertà shit.

By the way, this is a great category: "Victims of cyberbullying".

 

[BootlegPopeye]

His election broke people's brains, and we see a shift then on Wikipedia from trying to write neutral articles, to finding one "reliable source" (Vox or Buzzfeed or whatever) expressing an extreme opinion, which becomes a fig leaf for filling the article lead and text with clearly non-neutral commentary. It helps that the mainstream media as a whole moved to increasingly non-objective reporting around the same time (for the same reason), but Wikipedia could have navigated this situation if it wanted to by adopting policies of filtering out clear editorial opinions. As an example, there could be a policy guarding against attributing views to people (e.g., far right or white supremacist), which they explicitly deny holding.

Long term watchers of Wikipedia will remember how this used to be laundered through weasel words and the criticism section that many polarizing figures had at one time. In retrospect, it worked out a little better because so and so op-ed pundit calling Trump or another right-wing figure of fascist doesn't belong anywhere near the main body of the text. The criticism sections used to come across really hysterical, now it's the entire article.

 

[WhiteNight]

Wikipedia has responded to Tucker Carlson's Capitol riot footage segment with a chain of "nor" did not mention:

Tucker Carlson - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nor did he mention that the rioters were motivated by white supremacy, nor that they were insurrectionists and traitors, nor that Trump is a fascist, nor that the 2020 election was the most secure in American history. Also, Brian Sicknick is dropped in with wording implying he was a victim of the incident, rather than having had an unrelated stroke the next day.

The argument that 1000 people were arrested and 500 took pleas doesn't prove what they think it does. Stats about BLM would show a high level of non-prosecution and reduced charges. What these numbers actually indicate is the DOJ's prosecutorial aggression and double standards.

The Carlson article as a whole is filled with this sort of thing:

There's "falsely" again. You can't have an opinion on a court verdict anymore (unless it's a verdict we don't like). The jurors definitely wouldn't feel threatened by the mob surrounding the courthouse after a year of nationwide violence.

 

[Corpun]

I know Carlson is probably hiding his power level and Wikiautists are contorting his words about Chauvin, but I do believe Carlson thinks Chauvin was wrongly setenced.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Wikipedia has responded to Tucker Carlson's Capitol riot footage segment with a chain of "nor" did not mention:
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They also do not seem to have bothered to mention that lawyers were denied access to footage to try and defend their clients. Who cares if people get their right to fair trial sabotaged right? They are just disgusting Nazis they don't deserve a trial!

 

[WhiteNight]

They also do not seem to have bothered to mention that lawyers were denied access to footage to try and defend their clients. Who cares if people get their right to fair trial sabotaged right? They are just disgusting Nazis they don't deserve a trial!

There is an article on the Q Shaman, which does mention this:

Jake Angeli - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[AnOminous]

I know Carlson is probably hiding his power level and Wikiautists are contorting his words about Chauvin, but I do believe Carlson thinks Chauvin was wrongly setenced.

It's the "falsely claimed" part. There are very good reasons to doubt the results of that farce of due process.

There is an article on the Q Shaman, which does mention this:

These are what are called Brady materials, which the prosecution is required to disclose. The usual remedy for a Brady violation is vacating the conviction. If this occurred in multiple cases, the government could be headed for a huge embarrassment. That's assuming the defense is accurately representing what the material would have proven, but there is probably a pretty strong case for appeal in many of these cases, including the Shaman's.

 

[JJLiautaud]

It's the "falsely claimed" part. There are very good reasons to doubt the results of that farce of due process.

These are what are called Brady materials, which the prosecution is required to disclose. The usual remedy for a Brady violation is vacating the conviction. If this occurred in multiple cases, the government could be headed for a huge embarrassment. That's assuming the defense is accurately representing what the material would have proven, but there is probably a pretty strong case for appeal in many of these cases, including the Shaman's.

Even if you plea out?

 

[General Emílio Médici]

I would expect so. A lot of times pleas are done because you don't think you have a chance at something better.

 

[Corpun]

Even if you plea out?

Yeah from what I understand Qanon Shamans lawyer was an absolute retard who just told him to take the plea deal. I am betting the other Jan 6 defendents lawyers said the same thing, and I do believe they were told to say that by government agents.

 

[AnOminous]

Even if you plea out?

Yes, because you probably wouldn't have pled out if the prosecution hadn't committed fraud. However, there's a circuit split on that and I don't know if D.C. has weighed in yet. I'm sure there are lawyers looking at it right now. In any event, a plea must be knowing and voluntary, and if the prosecution conceals exculpatory evidence to trick the defendant into a plea, it can hardly be said to be knowing, because the defendant is deprived of an accurate basis to decide what the likely outcome of trial is.

The government's argument would be that the material isn't exculpatory at all or at most would be of use impeaching a witness. The Supreme Court has weighed in on that particular issue in the negative.

So if the principle applies (as three Circuits have found), it would apply to evidence establishing the actual innocence of the defendant. If the police actually did essentially invite the protesters inside (whatever their reason for doing so), it's hard to imagine something more exculpatory. At the very least, whatever Shaman dude did appears to be a lot less serious than what he was convicted of.

(My personal opinion is he did nothing more wrong than a lot of other people and got the book thrown at him just because he looked cool while doing it so they wanted to make an example of him.)

It seems worth a swing because whoever managed to win such a case and get it to SCOTUS would have made their name and established new Brady protections.

Also as to the Chauvin thing, the "falsely claimed" is the sort of shit that shows up over and over now in SJW-riddled Wikipedia articles, blatant editorializing. Maybe it could be used for things like claiming the Sun orbits the Earth, or for claiming Chauvin was never even actually convicted and the trial never happened, but as it is used here it is purely the opinion of the Wikipedo who wrote it.

Here's an article from 2018 about it:

Circuit Split: Are Brady Claims Available for Defendants Who Plead Guilty When the Prosecution Withholds Materially Exculpatory Evidence?

Kyle Greene, Associate Member, University of Cincinnati Law Review Intro A Brady claim affords defendants a new trial when the prosecution knowingly withholds impeachment or exculpatory evidence. T…

uclawreview.org

And here's a 2022 brief on the subject which somewhat updates the case law:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-186/242130/20220929163237206_22-186_Amicus%20Brief.pdf

(cert. was denied on the petition).
And an article on the petition from the Cato Institute: https://www.cato.org/legal-briefs/mansfield-v-williamson-county

(The Fifth Circuit is one of the circuits that have decided the issue in the negative.)

 

[Kulee Baba]

It's still riddled with the "english with an accent" articles written by that one idiot (who was also a brony). Possibly because the other admins are roosting on it like fat pigeons and shitting on anyone who tries to change it.

Like I said, Scots is as different from English as Danish is from Swedish. They're mutually intelligible (in one direction, at least) but they have separate vocabulary and some grammar differences. It's much more like old english. Judging it by what you find on the scots wiki is stupid.

I assumed that since they banned that editor and reverted much of his work they're not using his silly style as the basis to Wikipedia.

"Walcome tae Wikipaedia, the free encyclopaedia that awbody can eedit.' This is in no way anything like Olde English. It reminds me how Google once had an Elmer Fudd translator and would change the text to reflect Elmer's speech impediment.

 

[Baraadmirer]

I was going through some old Google docs that I viewed years ago and I came across this one ( Archive ) for a Wikipedia-related Facebook group called Cool Freaks' Wikipedia. There being nine pages on banned topics and FAQs about being banned from the group are telling, and they require members to appropriately give content or trigger warnings. Vice even pushed out an article years ago ( Archive ) about how militantly obsessed they are with being a safe space.

 

[lolcow yoghurt]

There is an article on the Q Shaman, which does mention this:
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Jake Angeli - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I do think that he's notable, only for for his fursuit show. Pretty badass looks tbh, I don't give a single fuck about amerimutt politics.
I don't think that his article need to be this big:

Even excluding the templates and references, it'd be at least 40K bytes without them. I like comparing such woke topic articles to chemical articles (which also have a fuckton of references). For comparison, the length of "Chloroform" page is almost 55K bytes.
This guy's article is huge because of all that political sperging.
ETA:
There's a Turkish article on him, it's pretty short but tells all you need to know about him. No political sperging, just calls him a "far right conspiracy theorist, Trump supporter and climate activist" basically.

Jake Angeli - Vikipedi

tr.wikipedia.org

 

[BootlegPopeye]

There is an article on the Q Shaman, which does mention this:
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Jake Angeli - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Top Congressional Republican".. you mean the fucking speaker of the house? What a strange, weasely way to word that, an attempt to diminish the significance of the person who gave it to him.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I assumed that since they banned that editor and reverted much of his work they're not using his silly style as the basis to Wikipedia.

"Walcome tae Wikipaedia, the free encyclopaedia that awbody can eedit.' This is in no way anything like Olde English. It reminds me how Google once had an Elmer Fudd translator and would change the text to reflect Elmer's speech impediment.

Post a longer sample, because you can do the exact same thing with any closely related language. I bet you wouldn't say Dutch is a dialect of German or Portuguese is a dialect of Spanish. The reason Scottish is particularly close to English is because they were ruled by England for over 300 years and never had much of a literature of their own because English culture and religion (like the King James Bible) was preferred over anything local. Just look at most of Robert Burns's poetry, that's obviously not English and is following its own rules. The Wikipedia page on Scots also has some passages from an early 20th century Bible translation into Scots that's pretty clearly not English either.

 

[JJLiautaud]

Post a longer sample, because you can do the exact same thing with any closely related language. I bet you wouldn't say Dutch is a dialect of German or Portuguese is a dialect of Spanish. The reason Scottish is particularly close to English is because they were ruled by England for over 300 years and never had much of a literature of their own because English culture and religion (like the King James Bible) was preferred over anything local. Just look at most of Robert Burns's poetry, that's obviously not English and is following its own rules. The Wikipedia page on Scots also has some passages from an early 20th century Bible translation into Scots that's pretty clearly not English either.

It also looks familiar because scots and anglish are 2 very closely related languages, no one argues that Platdeutch and hochdeutch arent two different languages.
Plattdeutch:
Unse Vader in'n Himmel!
Mak din Nam herrli un hillig ock bi uns!
Help du uns ock dorto, dat du gans unse Herr warst!
Din Will schall dörchstahn bi uns up de Eer grad so as bi di in'n Himmel!
Giff uns vundag dat Brod, dat wi hüt nödi hebbt!
Un denn vergiff uns unse Schulden,
grad so as wi vergewen hebbt de Minschen, de uns wat schülli sünd.
Un help dorto, dat wi nich to Fall kamt!
Ja, mak uns frie un redd uns vun dat Böse!
Denn din is dat Riek un de Kraft un de Herrlikeit in Ewikeit. Amen

Hochdeutch standard german:

Vater unser im Himmel, geheiligt werde dein Name; dein Reich komme; dein Wille geschehe, wie im Himmel so auf Erden.
Unser tägliches Brot gib uns heute.
Und vergib uns unsere Schuld, wie auch wir vergeben unsern Schuldigern; und führe uns nicht in Versuchung, sondern erlöse uns von dem Bösen.
Denn dein ist das Reich und die Kraft und die Herrlichkeit in Ewigkeit. Amen.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Post a longer sample, because you can do the exact same thing with any closely related language. I bet you wouldn't say Dutch is a dialect of German or Portuguese is a dialect of Spanish. The reason Scottish is particularly close to English is because they were ruled by England for over 300 years and never had much of a literature of their own because English culture and religion (like the King James Bible) was preferred over anything local. Just look at most of Robert Burns's poetry, that's obviously not English and is following its own rules. The Wikipedia page on Scots also has some passages from an early 20th century Bible translation into Scots that's pretty clearly not English either.

Benedict XVI (Laitin: Benedictus PP. XVI, German: Benedikt XVI, Italian: Benedetto XVI; born Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger on 16 Aprile 1927 an deid 31 December 2022) wis the (Twa hundert an saxtie fift) 265th ringin Pape, the heid o the Roman Catholic Kirk an sovereign o Vatican Ceity. He wis electit on 19 Aprile 2005, in a papal conclave that he moderated ower in his capacity as dean o the College o Cardinals. He slockened his Papal Handsel Mass on 24 Aprile 2005 an wis enthroned in the Basilica di San Giovanni in Laterano on Mey 7t, 2005.

Look I'm not saying it's not a dialect, I just don't think this remotely warrants its own Wikipedia. I have a hard time believing a person born in Scotland would have a hard time reading the English version of Wikipedia.

It says a lot that an American Shitposter could allegedly do so much damage to their "language." You could write a ton of nonsense claiming it was Portugese or Dutch and those two languages will keep on going because people communicate in it.

 

[JJLiautaud]

I have a hard time believing a person born in Scotland would have a hard time reading the English version of Wikipedia.

Tell me you understand this completely.

 

[AnOminous]

It says a lot that an American Shitposter could allegedly do so much damage to their "language." You could write a ton of nonsense claiming it was Portugese or Dutch and those two languages will keep on going because people communicate in it.

That autistic shitposter did a fair amount of good for humanity just showing how idiotic the whole concept of Wikipedia is, literally retarded, the "encyclopedia" that can only be edited by an intensely spastic autist who camps the page 24/7 and screeches autistically until only his view can be represented on any article.

This is called "consensus" on shitholepedia.

Great, the "encyclopedia" where the contents of any article are whatever the most persistent, retarded, mentally brain damaged, no-life-having autist decided it's going to be. That's what the world should depend on.