Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

It is why they refuse to allow it to have a nuanced discussion and explain how both sides were racist as all hell
I always found it funny how Lincoln was portrayed as almost sort of a proto civil rights activist when he literally wanted to ship blacks back to Africa at one point and also said this in an 1858 debate with Stephen Douglas:
" I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, [applause]—that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality."
 
I always found it funny how Lincoln was portrayed as almost sort of a proto civil rights activist when he literally wanted to ship blacks back to Africa at one point and also said this in an 1858 debate with Stephen Douglas:

He somewhat softened his opinions in later years, especially after discussions with black leaders who turned out not to be subhuman apes.

Also the original shipping blacks to Liberia concept was one he was trying to sell to black people themselves as the best solution for everyone involved, and he invited leaders to the White House to see if they could work something out. So it wasn't a matter of rounding them up forcibly with no input and shipping them back to Africa in rickety, leaking slave ships.

(Ironically, many of the blacks who took up the offer and went to Liberia ended up at the top of society there and reinstituted what virtually amounted to the American plantations they'd been freed of.)

Lincoln wasn't an abolitionist, he was a pragmatist whose goal was preserving the Union at all costs:

"If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that."

Letter to Horace Greeley, August 22, 1862

Also note that this was a letter meant for publication at a time a war Lincoln was heavily lobbying to the public (and which was highly unpopular), was not going well at all, and he couldn't afford to look like a wild-eyed John Brown style abolitionist (not that he was one). This was before Gettysburg and other victories decisively turned the course of the War and its outcome was still uncertain and even subject to mass civil unrest resisting the drafts and otherwise criticizing the war effort.

The opinion of many of the average men getting drafted (while a rich man could just have his daddy buy him out of the draft) was I'm not going to war with my Southern brothers to free a bunch of niggers just so they can come up here and take my job. It was that simple. And Lincoln couldn't be perceived (even more) as essentially doing just that.

Even the vaunted Emancipation Proclamation was essentially Lincoln destroying much of Southern wealth with the stroke of a pen, just as Sherman in his March to the South destroyed their physical wealth. Whatever the opinion of the morality of slavery is (though I think history has been pretty conclusive on it), the EP was an instrument of war, not taken for its own moral value but for its damage to a wartime enemy.
 
The citations are hilarious, "The Pro Strats of Healsluts: Overwatch, Sexuality, and Perverting the Mechanics of Play". The amount of human effort that was required to construct this article is sickening. What a ridiculous world we are living in.
It's sad that this is the world we live in
 
A while ago I did a write up on Disclose.TV page on Wikipedia and how blatant of a smear job and a one sided attack it was. (Post)(Onion)

News has now come out that the company behind the entire body of sources used in the article was also involved with literally running COINTELPRO ops against Br*tish public to make sure that anyone questioning lockdowns was gaslit and sidelined.


Disclose.TV having a blast about it on their media as a badge of honor that the UK would use literal government power to try and smear them. Wikipedia seem very VERY silent on the subject at the moment, and I am almost tempted to start a new Talk topic asking what will happen to the article now and see if they accept they have been duped or double down.
 
I am almost tempted to start a new Talk topic asking what will happen to the article now and see if they accept they have been duped or double down.
You'd better use a burner account if you do that. It's not just the hobbyist wikipedos who'll be watching that article (and this thread), you'd be antagonizing spooks from various governments and "antidisinformation" groups.
 
Lmao what is this Screenshot_20230610-153725_Chrome.jpg
 
Standard linguistic descriptivism, basically.
Distinguished from prescriptivism. The general philosophy behind dictionaries as they currently exist is they describe language as it actually is used, rather than attempting to enforce norms.

Also you have to change the definition of "word" to claim something like "ain't" isn't one. You can say it's a colloquialism or bad grammar or even a Word Crime, but this isn't France and we do not have an Académie Française run by a bunch of faggots who get to tell us what words we're legally allowed to use.

"Ain't" is a word. It is a bunch of letters or sounds that has an actual meaning and when you hear someone say it, you know what they mean by it.

Dictionaries collect these and simply describe what they are and how people use them. They often have parenthetical notations like colloq. or others to indicate a particular usage is disfavored or informal.

If something is prescriptivist, it actually prescribes language that is supposed to be used, as in something like the AP Style Manual, which orders people to do idiotic things like capitalizing "Black" for no reason while leaving "white" in lowercase, pushing an obvious political agenda. That is not what dictionaries should do.

There is actually nothing grievously offensive about this particular passage.
 
Donald Blumpff and American conservatives section are like half of the article 🤡 I'm not a huge fan of Trump but come on, this is like nega-Conservapedia tier.
Its very good. I like how they lead with an image of Hitler, you know, really getting on the fucking nose with it. They should just have Trumps page be a picture of him and the words "living Satan" under it and be done.
 
Donald Blumpff and American conservatives section are like half of the article 🤡 I'm not a huge fan of Trump but come on, this is like nega-Conservapedia tier.
Wikipedia is a complete leftist site with bias opinions than spreading actual facts. And I'm not even a fan of Trump either, but the fact that Wikipedia can only source other bias (even clickbait) websites in this day-and-age is so cringe.
 
Another entry in the list of really fucking important aritcles that cover an important topic that are complete fucking messes; also includes bonus retarded speculation 1686593411257.png
 
This is an incredibly oversimplified take over why the Mongols got booted out of China. However, Wikipedos are more worried that the paragraph isn't going into detail on the ways Mongols wanted to rape Chinese kids. That's clearly the important part of a section describing the decline of Mongol influence across in Eurasia.
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As a side note, this article is what Wikipedia considers a "good article." It's admittedly a decent overview, but has some sections like the above which have glaring oversimplifications. This is why you were told to never cite Wikipedia in school.
 

She's been talked about before but holy crap her account page is super autistic. What is with these Wikipedians and making their own profiles fucking articles or weird ramblings. This bitch is legit schizophrenic with how much she needs to ramble on about Germans.

The best part for me at least is the photos she has in it near the bottom, it's all whinging about how the colorization is all creepy looking and weird somehow.
 
The bottom of the Self-Hating Jew page on Wikipedia.
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Notice how not even Jewish people are safe from claims of Antisemitism and take any sort of betrayal to the satanic complex with such anger and contempt, all this over a Jew criticizing the worst aspects of their race that made them feel bad in the first place (not that they hate their race but don't even want their race to be known for things like this), who could blame them really? They're just speaking the truth.

I tried explaining this to Trombonista.
 
She's been talked about before but holy crap her account page is super autistic. What is with these Wikipedians and making their own profiles fucking articles or weird ramblings. This bitch is legit schizophrenic with how much she needs to ramble on about Germans.
A big problem with Wikipedia is there is so much misinformation, purged wrongthink, bias, and misleading writing that there's no way to know how accurate any of the articles on these topics are. It could be that many of Coffman's changes are justified and accurate, but I can only guess when reading an article on a subject I'm unfamiliar with whether it is propaganda. The safe assumption is that she's a fanatic ideologue with way too much time on her hands, and therefore nothing she writes is reliable.
 
One of my favorite activities for when I'm bored is to make my thousandth sockpuppet, subtly put misinformation on a popular page and see how long it takes for them to revert it
A big problem with Wikipedia is there is so much misinformation, purged wrongthink, bias, and misleading writing that there's no way to know how accurate any of the articles on these topics are. It could be that many of Coffman's changes are justified and accurate, but I can only guess when reading an article on a subject I'm unfamiliar with whether it is propaganda. The safe assumption is that she's a fanatic ideologue with way too much time on her hands, and therefore nothing she writes is reliable.
 

Field of Dreams is a 1989 American sports fantasy drama film written and directed by Phil Alden Robinson, based on Canadian novelist W. P. Kinsella's 1982 novel Shoeless Joe
This is pedantic of me but I am bothered by describing Field of Dreams as a fantasy film. I mean yeah there are ghosts and shit but that is literally it. I know that technically qualifies it for fantasy but it's just some gay sperging from me.


Oh sorry, random person, not the infamous insirekshunist (totally not a fed) who goaded people to invade Our Sacred Democacy on Jan 6, nah he doesn;t even deserve a page. In fact he only gets a measely mention once the entire fucking article
James Ray Epps, an individual with history in the Arizona Oath Keepers, was filmed during two street gatherings on January 5 urging people to go into the Capitol the next day.[179][180] Epps had texted his nephew that he was "orchestrating" the flow into the Capitol building.[181] Epps later claimed that he had been boasting about "directing" people towards the Capitol.[182]

Meanwhile Qanon Shaman and who knows how many other evil insereksunizers have their own wikipages. (Holy shit that is an ungodly number of sooorces for such a small article).

 
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