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How did this thread turn suddenly into spergery?

The Prager U take which stretches definitions to put Nazism on the Left is retarded because of how cock-sure it is. But, more broadly, mapping historical political movements onto the left and right as they are today is always dicey.

Even mapping today's politics is not clear. Pundits like to say that Trump is "far right" but others reasonably say he's close to a 90s liberal, and/or that he has populist views that overlap with Bernie Sanders. As another example, the "neocon" label came about from a split among conservatives over foreign intervention, and that split continues, with both sides finding common cause with factions of the left.

Most who LARP as Nazis today will mostly align with what are considered right-wing parties and policies. That doesn't mean Nazism is definitively right-wing, but it's a criterion that points it in that direction.
 
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TaimuRadiu said:
communism did it from the left wing, nazism most definitely did it from the right wing
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Communism and Nazism are two sides of the same coin. One is gay economic class dictatorial collectivism one is gay race dictatorial collectivism

Fascism outside of Nazism had way more differences with communism than Nazism did
 
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Look, as long as you hate hooknosed schlomos you can be up, down, left, right or whatever you want.

Speaking of the you know whos here's one trying to whine "zionist" onto the list of racial slurs.
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TaimuRadiu said:
or you know

what the nazis actually did and said
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I can see you're going to dig and never shut up, but in the 1930s the 99% similarity between Nazism and communism was not controversial at all. They display similar logic in their rejection of capitalism and classical liberalism for society controlled by a vigorous leadership seeking a total break with the allegedly decadent and parasitic prior society. The leadership in Soviet republics being the dictatorship of the proletariat institutionalized in the general secretary and his council (politburo, presidium, whatever), in Nazi Germany, the leader class (pure Aryans rising to the top allegedly through ruthless social Darwinian competition) following the dictatorship of the leader institutionalized in the fuhrerprinzip
 
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draggs said:
I can see you're going to dig and never shut up, but in the 1930s the 99% similarity between Nazism and communism was not controversial at all. They display similar logic in their rejection of capitalism and classical liberalism for society controlled by a vigorous leadership seeking a total break with the allegedly decadent and parasitic prior society. The leadership in Soviet republics being the dictatorship of the proletariat institutionalized in the general secretary and his council (politburo, presidium, whatever), in Nazi Germany, the leader class (pure Aryans rising to the top allegedly through ruthless social Darwinian competition) following the dictatorship of the leader institutionalized in the fuhrerprinzip
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No, they kind of aren't the same aside from Americans screeching that they were both "socialist" when they weren't even the same kind of socialist; Communism originated from Marxist socialist principles, and was about a break with the past and a revolution; in Germany it was a call back to the past and used any number of German ideas and terms to bring out how much from the past they were.

Also in fact Hitler enhanced capitalism by reorganizing smaller companies into monopolistic trusts, contracting very heavily with companies like IBM, IG Farben, and Krupp, and in addition to that making it nigh impossible to actually quit a job or organize a labour union.
 
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TaimuRadiu said:
No, they kind of aren't the same aside from Americans screeching that they were both "socialist" when they weren't even the same kind of socialist; Communism originated from Marxist socialist principles, and was about a break with the past and a revolution; in Germany it was a call back to the past and used any number of German ideas and terms to bring out how much from the past they were.

Also in fact Hitler enhanced capitalism by reorganizing smaller companies into monopolistic trusts, contracting very heavily with companies like IBM, IG Farben, and Krupp, and in addition to that making it nigh impossible to actually quit a job or organize a labour union.
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This is not a "Was National Socialism REAL socialism?" thread. Take it somewhere else.
 
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glue eater said:
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Trumpism is right next to Charles Manson-ism. Chuds = owned. If you think this is a troll edit, someone tried to remove it and it got reverted by anti-vandalism patroller.
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“Several experts”. Not even most experts. Just “several”. Sounds good enough to put on Wikipedia as an undisputed, certified fact. Lmao
 
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