Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

Save the Loli said:
It's probably precisely because it's not a political channel the deletionist crew could get it deleted. Hbomberguy and others have an army of shills posing as journalists working for them in the clickbait media who churn out article after article. And on Wikipedia, these articles are all top-notch reliable sources. So how could Hbombergoy not be notable when all these great and reliable sources are covering him?
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I thought it was deleted because its gun-related content is political and Wikipedia is probably largely edited by gun-grabbers. I remember Ian did a video with someone from FESAC, which is an organisation opposing EU gun bans, so while there's very little politics on his channel there is some.
 
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Trig.Point said:
That's really interesting thank you.

There's a YouTube Channel that I follow called Forgotten weapons, it covers historical firearms. It did at one point have a Wikipedia page, the channel owner is a published author he does original research, a top 20 earner on Patreon, his channel was at one point used as a reference in Wikipedia pages on obscure weapons.

It's been deleted and I don't know why, particularly as YouTubers like Lindsay Ellis and Hbomberguy have what are essentially fan pages on Wikipedia.

All the information as to what happened is in that link you provided but because its not searchable, it's obviously harder to find the talk page.
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Curiously, Jrnny Nicholson recently got her page deleted for being non-notable at her own request, because it was enabling "stalkers" who got all their info from her public Twitter account

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jenny Nicholson - Wikipedia

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Francine StripeCheer said:
Curiously, Jrnny Nicholson recently got her page deleted for being non-notable at her own request, because it was enabling "stalkers" who got all their info from her public Twitter account

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jenny Nicholson - Wikipedia

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I watch Jenny Nicholson videos regularly and it's pretty obvious that she's getting a significant amount of access and or money from Disney which is changing her contents approach to their movies, particularly Star Wars. She tries to portray herself as some Ditzy school girl, making content in her bedroom, but she is the Master of Shilling. She's just leagues ahead of her peers when it comes to disguising it.

Closing down a page on her that she couldn't control is in line with that. If she had a Wikipedia page it would instantly appear as a top result on Google.

She's still worth watching though, her Game of Thrones apology video was hilarious.
 
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Trig.Point said:
I watch Jenny Nicholson videos regularly and it's pretty obvious that she's getting a significant amount of access and or money from Disney which is changing her contents approach to their movies, particularly Star Wars. She tries to portray herself as some Ditzy school girl, making content in her bedroom, but she is the Master of Shilling. She's just leagues ahead of her peers when it comes to disguising it.

Closing down a page on her that she couldn't control is in line with that. If she had a Wikipedia page it would instantly appear as a top result on Google.

She's still worth watching though, her Game of Thrones apology video was hilarious.
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I really doubt Disney are paying her, some people just really identify with and obsess over fandoms. Like, I doubt her Buzzy video was the kind of thing they would like, and she's been supposed to make a Galaxy's Edge video for months
 
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Francine StripeCheer said:
I really doubt Disney are paying her, some people just really identify with and obsess over fandoms. Like, I doubt her Buzzy video was the kind of thing they would like, and she's been supposed to make a Galaxy's Edge video for months
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There's probably not an invoice for cash, but she got invites to premieres and the access that comes with it.

It's funny because it's not like she's ever shown any respect towards other 'Fandom' commentators. She used to do a series on another channel called Millenial falcon. Which would be her and a guest talking about some aspect of Star Wars, normally the guest would take it seriously and she'd just rip them. In one episode when the interview was finished, rather than doing a jump cut to let the guest leave, before doing the outro, she just threw a blanket over him. It was a genuine piece of comedy genius.
 
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Francine StripeCheer said:
Curiously, Jrnny Nicholson recently got her page deleted for being non-notable at her own request, because it was enabling "stalkers" who got all their info from her public Twitter account

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jenny Nicholson - Wikipedia

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This looks like that rare thing these days, a legit decision made by community consensus after following the process in the alleged rules. It looks like a proper delete, at least at the moment, although I could easily see the article recreated.

Now if only they deleted other non-notables like John Walker Flynt, who has an article as Brianna Wu, despite having no notability at all.
 
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AnOminous said:
This looks like that rare thing these days, a legit decision made by community consensus after following the process in the alleged rules. It looks like a proper delete, at least at the moment, although I could easily see the article recreated.

Now if only they deleted other non-notables like John Walker Flynt, who has an article as Brianna Wu, despite having no notability at all.
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Unfortunately, as far as I gather, Wu does have "notability" by Wikipedia standards because he's been mentioned in mainstream media like that Washington Post article that outed him as a troon. I'm not sure what exactly defines notability, but it seems largely dependent on appearances in certain media sources; a mainstream news story on Chris would probably get him an article, especially since he's already mentioned on the Kiwi Farms one.

That Kiwi Farms article still bothers me. At no point in time were the CWCki Forums ever an imageboard. They must have confused us with /cow/ or something.
 
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Pointless Pedant said:
I'm not sure what exactly defines notability,
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There is no real standard. It all depends on who wants an article left up or taken down. It's all about one's status in the Wikipedo clique.

There's a reason many Wikipedia policies have apparently antonymous policies; that way the clique can justify any decision.

I'm not exaggerating, at least not intentionally. I've seen this for over fifteen years. Even at the outset, this was a bit of a problem. Five years into Wikipedia's existence, it was a primary fact of its existence.
 
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AnOminous said:
Real countries have fewer words.
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No shit:

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Francine StripeCheer said:
Curiously, Jenny Nicholson recently got her page deleted for being non-notable at her own request, because it was enabling "stalkers" who got all their info from her public Twitter account
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Who the fuck is Jenny Nicholson and why did they give her a page?
 
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(Jason Momoa's)... Spanish Wikipedia article gets more than 2000 page-views per day. In the first line of that article, Spanish mobile readers saw him described as an “actor, escritor, productor, director, modelo , homosexualizador de hombres.” I’m not fluent in Spanish, but I don’t think “homosexualizador de hombres” is something one would expect to see at the top of an encyclopedia article, even if it’s meant to be more flattering than insulting.
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did you know that in the Mapuche language (spoken in Chile and Argentina), Billy Ray Cyrus has been described by Wikidata as a “chaman, actris porno y cantante de regaeton post modernista” since at least 2015? /QUOTE]

http://wikipediocracy.com/2019/09/05/melania-trump-is-a-former-sex-worker-and-porn-star/
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Trig.Point said:
There's a YouTube Channel that I follow called Forgotten weapons, it covers historical firearms. It did at one point have a Wikipedia page, the channel owner is a published author he does original research, a top 20 earner on Patreon, his channel was at one point used as a reference in Wikipedia pages on obscure weapons.

It's been deleted and I don't know why, particularly as YouTubers like Lindsay Ellis and Hbomberguy have what are essentially fan pages on Wikipedia.
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The article on FW really sucked. The one on Mr McCollum was slighty better, but still lacked citations from mainstream lying press sources, which tend to be a large part of proving 'notability'. I'm not surprised they were deleted.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190122050752/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgotten_Weapons
https://web.archive.org/web/20190528183250/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_McCollum

I suspect an article on Forgotten Weapons that would hold up to the requirements could probably be put together with a little research, but don't really care to do so. Fuck Wikipedia. One on Ian alone would probably not make the cut due to the higher standards on articles about living persons.

I do find it funny that anyone would think this is an 'anti-gun' political decision. I have no doubt that Ian would trade universal background checks, a ban on private firearms sales, no firearm purchases before age 21, and probably even universal licensing with individually named firearms for a little more collector access to machine guns. His collaborator Karl Kasada is a literal fedora Satanist, I believe I might have read Karl's in a poly relationship as well (not sure but he is a libertarian so not unlikely).
 
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