Dune Part 2 is (one of) the best Sci-Fi i ever watched.

Because most of the people on this site and thread are hardcore consumer types that will watch this instead of reading the original books. They are no different than the people on reddit and youtube who buy anything and everything simply because it's new. For them the HBO versions of Dune are the only versions of Dune that they will ever know. Just like the Jackson versions of LOTR are the official canon versions not the actual Tolkien writings.

Way more people will watch the Dune movies than read the original books. So they don't even know that the movies are utter shit compared to the books. They just want a mindless action movie to zone out in front the television for a few hours.
It's not even that good at action. It's acceptable at it, but those energy shields really feel like plot armor rather than a thing characters have to navigate around, and at the price it costs, acceptable isn't good enough. By acceptable, I mean to the untrained eye, it looks fine. To actual swordspeople, it's a bit sus at times and opens up all kinds of questions as to why they have the weapons they have instead of the better medieval versions of what they have.
 
Lynch Baron is better than Dunce Villanue’s Baron. Lynch’s Baron is over the top, but it works. He steals the scene whenever he appears. New Baron very much feels like a by-the-numbers bad guy, the visual design of him is also terrible. His red hair ties him to Jessica and Alia for fuck’s sake.

He’s a fat degenerate, who’s cunning. The violent aspect is there to remind you that he’s not bumbling, he’s a credible threat.
 
And that's a good thing. Dune as literature fucking sucks. Boring prose and very self-indulgent.
This opinion is even worse than mine.
No Dune actually sucks. It’s seriously poorly written and fucking gay. I listened to it and I was cringing. Amazing world building but otherwise it’s amazing gay how he endlessly focuses on how the characters are Ubermensch and writes wanky sentences with dumb words. How can you take a book as serious literature when it includes rot, like the excerpt below? Spicelike HARMONICS?
Chapter 36 said:
Paul slipped out his nose plugs, swung the mouth baffle aside. The odour of the place assailed him: unwashed bodies, distillate esthers of reclaimed wastes, everywhere the sour effluvia of humanity with, over it all, a turbulence of spice and spicelike harmonics
 
No Dune actually sucks. It’s seriously poorly written and fucking gay. I listened to it and I was cringing. Amazing world building but otherwise it’s amazing gay how he endlessly focuses on how the characters are Ubermensch and writes wanky sentences with dumb words. How can you take a book as serious literature when it includes rot, like the excerpt below? Spicelike HARMONICS?
>posts perfectly well-written excerpt
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This is a thing? Why would you waste your water on a propaganda mill that hates and actively retcons the history of the culture that produced classics like Dune?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Because most of the people on this site and thread are hardcore consumer types that will watch this instead of reading the original books. They are no different than the people on reddit and youtube who buy anything and everything simply because it's new. For them the HBO versions of Dune are the only versions of Dune that they will ever know. Just like the Jackson versions of LOTR are the official canon versions not the actual Tolkien writings.

Way more people will watch the Dune movies than read the original books. So they don't even know that the movies are utter shit compared to the books. They just want a mindless action movie to zone out in front the television for a few hours.
You're a queer.
 
Am I being baited? Dune is widely panned as having horrible writing despite its compelling narrative and seminal world building.
I've never heard this criticism. Granted, it's been a hot minute since I read Dune and I was in high school at the time, so the writing could very well be dogshit. But if it is that doesn't seem like a very pertinent example. It's just a slightly flowery description of the smell of dead bodies with some purple phrasing tacked on at the end.
If you think that excerpt is good writing then you are either a pig who will read anything or a scrub who has read nothing.
Why must you be such an angry young man?
 
It’s a description of the smell of a sietch, not dead bodies, which goes to my point of the writing being bad.
It's an out-of-context piece describing smelly bodies and the scent of water that's been sucked out of the dead. In context I doubt I'd mistake it for being about anything other than a sietch.
 
It's an out-of-context piece describing smelly bodies and the scent of water that's been sucked out of the dead. In context I doubt I'd mistake it for being about anything other than a sietch.
On second thought it’s pretty obviously not about dead bodies even out of context. That’s on you not Frank Herbet. Anyway, have a good day, looking forward to watching dune 2
is perfectly cromulent
I’m having an autistic meltdown
 
Villeneuve is a nigger.
I dunno about that but he is French which is arguably worse.
I want to agree with you but that's a terrible example. Describing subtle smells and flavors as "harmonics" is perfectly cromulent. There are way better examples of bad writing in these books.
You joke but I've read Robin Hobb. A bit of purple prose doesn't phase me.
 
Part 1 was such a gigantic fucking snoozefest it convinced me to just read the book which I enjoyed way more. I don't trust part 2 to be any better.
Part 2's more actiony but hews even further from the source material. I enjoyed both parts, though I find the act of sitting down to watch a movie boring in and of itself so I think I tend to give movies more leeway than others might because of that.
 
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IMO the best way to do that is what Terminator did with the conflict between humans and skynet. Give the audience a brief glimpse, show a small skirmish enough for your brain to run wild with actually imagining that completely fleshed out. It ended up being so effective its one of the biggest and most liked aspects of T1/T2 when people talk about the movies. It was done so well it made T4 a let down due to the direction it took things since everyone already had an expectation of how the future war should look based upon T1/T2.
T4 was a let down but I like it, I liked 3 as well.
I watched 5 and relized the writers wanted to hurt the fans feelings, and thus never watched 6 not even when its available for free.
I would say that's more of an example of the movie being shit at explaining some of the worldbuilding the books can just blurb out without seeming pedantic
I am not a long time dune fan, got into it in 2016, but the fact of the matter is Dune mini series 1-6 did 100 times the story telling and honor to cannon and this was 20 fucking years ago.
Walken was the worst part of this movie IMO. Dude looked like he was trying to recreate Joe Biden. He was worse than Zendaya for me.
My weak spot in the movie was Walken, Honestly wish he had the screen time the Emporer's character and the actor Christopher Walken deserve. So many important plot points are not here which leaves a phoned in movie that makes no sense.
 
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Dune 2 was okay, but not the masterpiece many are claiming. I have not read any of the Dune books.

In no particular order, I'll list what I didn't like:

1. Nothing being done with Baron Harkonnen. Whatever happened to that spider creature we saw in the first film? Was it the wife of the Asian doctor who betrayed House Atriedes? I thought the Harkonnen's engaged in horrific experiments on humanoids and turned them into creatures like the spider thing. They should have explored this area more.

2. Was Baron Harkonnen bathing in black sludge as part of a treatment to survive the poisoning of Duke Leto from the first film? Was the metal spine attachments also a result of that poisioning? No mention of this. Would have been good to see a scene where he speaks to Paul and blames Paul's father for his condition.

3. Feyd-Rautha was supposedly fighting drugged prisoners for show on a regular basis? How does he become an elite fighter if that is the bulk of who he fights?

4. Baron Harkonnen decides to not drug one out of three prisoners, and this is supposed to be some big test of Feyd-Rautha? The guy who wasn't drugged, had been kept in poor conditions in a cell for who knows how long.

5. Gurney Halleck's fight with Rabban was so quick and underwhelming, it may as well not happened. Did they just want to tick off a list of things to do in the film, and this one just got the bare essentials?

6. How do the Fremen go to attack the other houses in space, when they have no ships and even if they stole the Emperor's ships, they wouldn't know how to use them?
 
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