CN During a Flyover of China, the U.S. Discovers Their Rival Is Developing a Massive Fusion Laser


In a development that has raised eyebrows worldwide, recent satellite images have revealed that China is constructing a massive fusion laser complex that could potentially surpass America’s National Ignition Facility (NIF). This new infrastructure, located in Mianyang, China, has sparked concerns about its dual-purpose potential—could it be aimed at providing clean energy, or does it also signal advancements in nuclear weapons technology? The U.S. is closely monitoring this project, which could have far-reaching implications for both energy and national security.


Satellite Images Raise Concerns​

The specter of the nuclear arms race has resurfaced, but this time, the focus is not on underground nuclear tests but on fusion energy research. The satellite images, which were analyzed by experts at CNA Corp, an independent U.S. research organization, in collaboration with the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies (CNS), show a massive construction site in Mianyang, China. This facility, known as the Laser Fusion Major Device Laboratory, is set to house cutting-edge fusion laser technology that could potentially revolutionize energy production or bolster China’s nuclear capabilities.

The design of the complex is impressive, with four arms extending from a central structure, each holding high-powered lasers that will converge on a core experiment chamber. Inside, scientists will experiment with focusing these lasers on hydrogen isotopes to trigger nuclear fusion. The Chinese facility’s scope is immediately comparable to the NIF in California, which has already made significant strides in fusion research. However, experts believe China’s new facility could be about 50% larger than the NIF’s experiment chamber, signaling even greater ambition.


Aiming for Clean Energy or Military Advantage?​

Fusion energy, while still in the experimental phase, promises a clean, abundant source of energy that uses hydrogen—the most common element in the universe. The idea is that by achieving controlled fusion, we could potentially harness the same energy that powers the sun. However, the road to mastering fusion energy is fraught with challenges. Despite its potential, it remains a complex and costly technology to perfect.

China’s interest in nuclear fusion technology fits into a broader global search for alternatives to fossil fuels and greater energy independence. Like many other nations, China is pursuing research in fusion energy to position itself at the forefront of this groundbreaking field. But there’s a lingering question: could the goal of this massive fusion facility extend beyond energy production? The research on inertial confinement fusion, the type of fusion being studied at Mianyang, could also have applications in nuclear weapons development.


Under the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT), both the U.S. and China have agreed to forgo underground nuclear tests. But by conducting fusion experiments, nations can study the fundamental mechanisms of nuclear detonations without violating the treaty, potentially improving their confidence in existing weapons designs and even developing new ones without conducting live tests. This raises alarms about the fine line between peaceful research and military applications.

The Balance Between Research and Military Potential​

While there’s no official response from Chinese authorities, experts are divided over the implications of the Mianyang facility. William Alberque, a nuclear policy analyst at the Henry L. Stimson Center, points out that nations with fusion facilities like the NIF can refine their nuclear arsenals without needing to conduct actual tests. While this capability is crucial for maintaining and improving weapon designs, it also introduces risks if the technology is used for military purposes.


However, some experts, including Siegfried Hecker, former director of Los Alamos National Laboratory, urge caution. Hecker notes that for countries like the U.S., which have a large database of nuclear test data, fusion experiments are primarily a means of maintaining the reliability and safety of their existing arsenals. For China, which has conducted fewer nuclear tests, the fusion research may be less immediately applicable in this regard.

Omar Hurricane, Chief Scientist of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory’s inertial confinement fusion program, also points out that other countries, including France, the United Kingdom, and Russia, are working on similar fusion projects. He highlights that the goal of scientific progress should remain at the forefront, even though the knowledge gained from fusion research can have multiple uses, including in both energy production and military technology.

Implications for the Future of Energy and National Security​

The construction of this massive fusion laser facility in China reflects the country’s ambitious scientific and technological goals, but it also serves as a reminder of the blurred lines between peaceful and military uses of emerging technologies. While the potential for clean energy from fusion is immense, the dual-use nature of the research means that the implications for global security could be profound.

As China’s project progresses, international oversight and diplomatic engagement will be crucial to ensure that the pursuit of fusion energy doesn’t inadvertently fuel new arms races. The data gathered from Mianyang will undoubtedly play a critical role in shaping the future of both nuclear energy and nuclear weapons. For now, the world watches closely as China makes strides toward what could be a revolutionary step forward in both science and military capability.
 
Big ass lasers are good for a lot of things.

Fusion requires a gigantic blanket to capture neutrons for heat for the actual steam and turbines, and often to breed tritium, because deuterium-deuterium is much harder than deuterium-tritium. By a 'big blanket' one could also take this as a 'multi-ton diaper full of activated nuclear shit'.

If we start detecting neutrons or tritium leaks that's when I'd be going "hmmm."

8 years ago a youtuber was releasing regular videos about lasers then suddenly after releasing this video he took a year off to work with the US government. Is there anything china has that isn't a shitty 10 year old knock off of American tech?


He took off the shelf parts and made a big LED blinding machine. This is like building a computer from parts off of newegg, you didn't really do much.

A pulse laser array carefully timed and aimed around a heavy element target that will inertially confine gas into fusion plasma is much, much, much harder.
 
A pulse laser array carefully timed and aimed around a heavy element target that will inertially confine gas into fusion plasma is much, much, much harder.
The thing I noticed was when he did come back his projects became significantly more dangerous. Wiring 100 car batteries in sequence and making laser sniper rifle with miles long range come to mind. I don't think he was involved in the super powerful unmoving lasers. More likely the man portable or plane mounted ones.

Is this fusion plasma thing considered a directed energy weapon or is mostly for boring shit like power generation?
 
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The thing I noticed was when he did come back his projects became significantly more dangerous. Wiring 100 car batteries in sequence and making laser sniper rifle with miles long range come to mind. I don't think he was involved in the super powerful unmoving lasers. More likely the man portable or plane mounted ones.

Is this fusion plasma thing considered a directed energy weapon or is mostly for boring shit like power generation?

Fusion plasma is both what fusion makes and what tends to happen along the way to induce fusion. Plasma what happens when gas is too hot/dense/otherwise energetic to stay gas anymore, electrons and nucleons (ions) don't really stay bound anymore.

You have to squeeze fusion fuel so hard it becomes plasma, then when it 'burns,' it's a hotter plasma.

Any laser I can think of anyone making now or for the next few years will only make fusion plasma the size of the head of a pin. Thimble sized would be world changing. That laser will be the size of an office building, and far past StyroPyro's shit.

SP's a cool dude and literally has so much excess testosterone he never even ages, which is based, and explains why he's fucking with car batteries and making lasers that can shoot across his rural property. I bet he even posts here. But nah he ain't doing fusion shit.
 
Wasn't using a nuclear weapon to jump start a huge one-time X-ray beam from a satellite that would cook the entirety of the USSR one of the proposed SDI weapons?
 
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Wasn't using a nuclear weapon to jump start a huge one-time X-ray beam from a satellite that would cook the entirety of the USSR one of the proposed SDI weapons?
There is an entire category of weapons that use a nuclear weapon to power or trigger them but the explosion is not the payload. My favorite is a nuclear powered airhorn that makes a noise to loud it kills everything.

There was a plan to build a device that would trigger a series of step up explosions until it basically imploded the earth. It was thought that it would end MAD because it could ever be countered.
 
Wasn't using a nuclear weapon to jump start a huge one-time X-ray beam from a satellite that would cook the entirety of the USSR one of the proposed SDI weapons?
We were too. The problem is, that shit sucks. You're better off using the nuke to pump the bad quality x-ray beam to attack other nukes, or use particle beams with enough relativistic gamma they don't bloom. Or neutralize, etc. Or pinch. It's complicated.
 
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China's been busy innovating while the states stagnate concerned over which gender a baby should be. They also are starting to break ground on a Molten Salt Thorium reactor, something that was researched in the 1960s and abandoned because it lacked the potential for nuclear weapons; it's a safer reactor on paper compared to the uranium process we are all so familiar with.
 
China's been busy innovating while the states stagnate concerned over which gender a baby should be. They also are starting to break ground on a Molten Salt Thorium reactor, something that was researched in the 1960s and abandoned because it lacked the potential for nuclear weapons; it's a safer reactor on paper compared to the uranium process we are all so familiar with.
That is STILL not happening because of lobbyists and nimbys.
 
Before everyone starts freaking out about how huge and invincible the Chinese military is I need to remind you that the last war China fought was in 1979 and they lost to Vietnam, who was also fighting in Cambodia at the same time. Their military doesn't have any experience.
As opposed to the US, with its experience fighting goatherders whose heaviest weapons are man portable mortars.
 
Oh no, America might be behind in something! Quick, bomb China (and Iran, those fuckers)!

Well, if your (distant) neighbour has something expensive and shiny, you have to go one better. Whack a few more tariffs on all those goods from abroad and I’m sure America can build a big shiny LAZOR too - bigger and shinier than China’s. Might bankrupt the country, but who cares when you can just re-write the debt ceiling to whatever you want?

CHINA IS A THREAT, CITIZENS (And Iran, those fuckers)
 
sustained fusion requires materials that costs 300x more than gold to even allow the reaction to happen,
This is the most trivial issue, breeder reactors are a solved problem.. The hard part is finding a containment material that doesn’t get dissolved by neutron radiation, can resist heat, can be mass manufactured, and easily maintained when in production. It’s a material science issue, not a fuel issue. It’s not an answered question if hydrogen is really the best fuel source, either.
 
I am sure it will work just as well as all those Chinese products on Amazon.

Rich people in the US spent decades building China up by doing business with them and now they tell us we have to counter China. At extreme cost no less. A country that is broke and in economic decline. I'm sure that will end well. Just stop doing business with China and they will fall in about 6 months to a year. No need for any military. It's going to happen anyway. The whole make shit in China and ship it back to the US to be sold to unemployed people and people making poverty wages is unsustainable. It won't last much longer now.
 
Before everyone starts freaking out about how huge and invincible the Chinese military is I need to remind you that the last war China fought was in 1979 and they lost to Vietnam, who was also fighting in Cambodia at the same time. Their military doesn't have any experience.

The last time China fired shots at an enemy was when they were part of a UN peacekeeping mission in some African shithole. A militia of Africans rolled up on them and the Chinks did pretty awfully. Because of their strict top-down command structure, when they tried to contact their leaders to ask them what the rules of engagement were, they couldn't get through to them, and when the non-Chinese UN leaders explained to them what they could and could not do in retaliation the Chinks ignored them because they had been drilled for years to only take orders from their direct superiors. It was a total shitshow because they're too rigid in their command structure, much like the Russians. There is no room for flexibility or reactionary initiative.
 
All I know for sure is that I want knockoff space marines (created by commies) using captured giant spheres of doom (created by commies) with the risk of skynet crossed with forced cyborgization (to fight the normies) to fight the commies and enact their zoomer ethnostate because they have no GF. Read the Doomstar series it's some good scifi slop

It's got some big fuckoff fusion powered lasers and the knockoff sphess marhreens get into a shooting battle from low orbit with the Sphess defense forces in Ukraine. Would recommend. Quality slop.
 
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