E3 2022 Canceled - Like a dying dog being put to sleep, really

[Dom Cruise]

What's sad is how not even 20 years after the amazing E3s of 2002 and 2003 the event is now basically dead, teenage me used to think E3 was one of the coolest things on the planet.

But it's been a shadow of what it once was for a long time now.

The absolute state of western gaming post 2015. The only worthwhile titles at E3 for the last decade have been Japanese anyway.

It's really getting clearer and clearer to me that 2015 marks the end of the "good old days" for pretty much everything.

At E3 2015 Capcom hired this woman with a massive ass to be a booth babe dressed as Cammy to promote Street Fighter V, but I doubt you saw anything like that after that year.

I wonder if E3's death is of its own doing or just a side effect of how games in general have gotten worse.

It's absolutely a reflection of the sorry state of video games as a whole in the west, E3 used to be one big fucking party, this whole hobby used to feel like one big fucking party.

And they've just completely fucked it in the ass and ruined it.

It's for the best. California has become a miserable place to conduct any sort of business just from how bat-shit insanely paranoid they are over COVID. Not to mention the AAA tier of the gaming industry is starting to show how terminally unsalvageable the woke rot cancer is with them, while indies and non-western studios stay true to form and outdo the corporations at every turn.

It could be that shedding E3 is a sign we really are overdue for a brand new game industry crash, COVID-related excuses aside. It probably won't happen in the same way as the 1980s did, but it might make Microsoft, Sony, Ubi, Squeenix, Capcom, Blizz, and maybe even Nintendo to re-evaluate their futures as companies.

One of the clearest examples of how Woke is ruining things is Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines 2, the game flat out had to be taken away from the developer because they were so filled with Woke jackasses that couldn't finish the game.

The truth though is that there's been a rot in video games long before Woke showed up, originally it was just good old fashioned greed that was sapping a lot of life out of the medium, Woke is just finally tipping the whole thing over after it was already on shaky ground.

We really do need another crash and we need the industry to become Japan focused again, the more western games got, the worse things got, even the best games coming out of the west, PC games, were negatively affected by gaming becoming more western focused.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

E3 in 2022 would have had a Will Smith moment where “women” like Froskurinn from G4TV would slap male gamers around for not finding her hot enough.

 

[SiccDicc]

E3 in 2022 would have had a Will Smith moment where “women” like Froskurinn from G4TV would slap male gamers around for not finding her hot enough.

With some awkward erections after.

 

[Cat tit bingo]

Last time I was genuinely excited for 3e was when the vgas where still on spike. Honestly with how fucking long development takes and how embarrassing the industry is why bother following the news. Oh no we won't get out png title reveal that won't get gameplay for 7 years.

 

[Blue Screen of Death]

E3 used to be one big fucking party, this whole hobby used to feel like one big fucking party.

This is it, lol. When video games started becoming SRS BSNS shit hit the fan.
I pray one day we'll loop back around to fun again, but I'm not hopeful.

 

[Toolbox]

"Facebook Gaming"'s buyout of half the ad space just to use it to shill the message™ was already sapping what little life the show had left. Actual panels being replaced with more of it finally dug E3's grave. It would have at least still been funny to do a bingo of every stupid marketing tactic AAA and AA studios employed without this.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

It was progressively worse each time, not just in content but wokeness. Pretty sure they had a panel dedicated to SJW shit or something last year, so good riddance. It used to be pretty cool though.

 

[Toolbox]

It was progressively worse each time, not just in content but wokeness. Pretty sure they had a panel dedicated to SJW shit or something last year, so good riddance. It used to be pretty cool though.

More than just *A* panel, and a lot of the ad space was as well.

 

[Beautiful Border]

It could be that shedding E3 is a sign we really are overdue for a brand new game industry crash, COVID-related excuses aside. It probably won't happen in the same way as the 1980s did, but it might make Microsoft, Sony, Ubi, Squeenix, Capcom, Blizz, and maybe even Nintendo to re-evaluate their futures as companies.

The "great video game crash of 1983" never really happened, it's a myth that was made up in the 2000s by Nintendo fanboys to construct a narrative about their favourite company saving the gaming industry.

 

[Toolbox]

The "great video game crash of 1983" never really happened, it's a myth that was made up in the 2000s by Nintendo fanboys to construct a narrative about their favourite company saving the gaming industry.

But the console market did crash, at least interest in buying new games and systems did for a solid year in the least, which ended up fucking the Vectrex which released that year. Though really most of the companies it caused to fall deserved it, like Atari which had pumped the market artificially like it was stocks. And yes, I know it was only in the US, and I do agree it probably did nothing to the PC games market, and appeared to not nearly as much affect the console market of most other countries.

 

[Dom Cruise]

This is it, lol. When video games started becoming SRS BSNS shit hit the fan.
I pray one day we'll loop back around to fun again, but I'm not hopeful.

Ebert's "a video game is not art" comment is one thing that set us on our path to destruction.

I do think a video game can be art, but I also think it doesn't matter and first and foremost you play a video game to have fun, but people got real self conscious in trying to prove that games weren't just for kids and teenagers and could be taken "seriously" this led to "games as art" faggots which beget shoving Woke politics into everything in an effort to appear "deep"

It was progressively worse each time, not just in content but wokeness. Pretty sure they had a panel dedicated to SJW shit or something last year, so good riddance. It used to be pretty cool though.

You're correct that it progressively got worse each time, even by the end of the 2000s and early 2010s it was starting to get stale as gaming started shifting towards a Wii style "casual audience" with shit like the Kinect, which was lame enough, then Woke went on the attack.

Gaming has been on a slow but steady decline ever since the introduction of the Wii, PS3 and 360 gen and E3, like the Fisher King, has always reflected the health of the industry, the fact that it now is not likely to exist at all anymore really says it all.

But I can't imagine how amazing E3 2003 would have been to visit in person, what with stuff like the DOA booth babes and the MGS3 reveal, E3 was at it's best when it was unapologetically a place for gamerbros to hang out, party, ogle hot chicks and check out the latest in games.

 

[DuckSucker]

I cant believe E3 got busted saying the N word on twitter 15 years ago...


Its weird because a bunch of other "entertainment event"/fests have been going on normally, why does E3 suck so hard? I remember it being kind of a joke like 10 years ago but they always hype it up like its gonna be like SXSW or Tribeca or some shit.

 

[Spirelord]

I hope there's never any E3s anymore because last year they made me think we were getting a #MeToo game when it was just some rando filmmaker that had screen time to bitch about their career for no reason. Those fuckers got me hyped for a train wreck because of shitty marketing so I hope that one's the final one.

 

[Beautiful Border]

But the console market did crash, at least interest in buying new games and systems did for a solid year in the least, which ended up fucking the Vectrex which released that year. Though really most of the companies it caused to fall deserved it, like Atari which had pumped the market artificially like it was stocks. And yes, I know it was only in the US, and I do agree it probably did nothing to the PC games market, and appeared to not nearly as much affect the console market of most other countries.

You're correct to a degree, there is a grain of truth to it, but so many layers of bullshit have been lathered on top over the years that the version of events as popularly repeated is basically fictional. What it should have been called was the "North American Atari crash of 1983", but that's obviously far less interesting or meaningful.

I'm convinced that the idea of "the video game crash of 1983" is spread at least in part by Nintendo, not so much by the company itself (although its marketing department would be foolish not to recognise its benefits) but by its legion of fanboys. I say this because every telling of the legend always ends with "...and then Nintendo arrived in 1985 and saved the day with the NES!". This is also used to retroactively justify Nintendo's business practices in the late 80s, such as their utterly draconian licensing system for developers.

The myth justifies this by claiming people stopped buying Atari 2600 games because the system was flooded with low-quality games (therefore justifying Nintendo's strict approach), but this is nonsense. People stopped buying Atari 2600 games because it was an aging system, the same reason people stop buying video games for any console. Even so the console continued to be manufactured in to the early 90s, showing there was still healthy demand for the system itself. The "official Nintendo seal of quality" had nothing to do with preventing low-quality games, it was simply a way for Nintendo to extort developers for more money, but these fucking sycophants use it to credit Nintendo with saving the industry.

 

[Creep3r]

Good riddance.

Just remember the semi-good times.

 

[augment]

I too, will dearly miss corporate-sponsored circus sideshow saddled with 40-something-year old marketeers being constantly "so excited" about the latest iteration of a paid service with loot boxes and the most modicum semblance of actual gameplay.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

What it should have been called was the "North American Atari crash of 1983", but that's obviously far less interesting or meaningful.

Did it not significantly effect other 2nd gen systems?

I say this because every telling of the legend always ends with "...and then Nintendo arrived in 1985 and saved the day with the NES!".

Did it not though? Genuinely asking these questions. Pretty sure home console gaming was on a steep decline across the board in America.

People stopped buying Atari 2600 games because it was an aging system, the same reason people stop buying video games for any console.

Sure it was aging but console generations didn't exist in the way they do now. It wasn't like they were being fed hype for--or even had an idea about what constituted--"next gen". Atari was '77, Intellivision was '80, and ColecoVision was '82, so it wasn't like there was a shortage of new systems. CV had noticeably better graphics also, so it wasn't purely a matter of graphics.

Also, good games interest people more than new hardware. I think that was probably more true then before console generations were clearly defined. It may have technically been retroactively referred to and categorized as "2nd gen" but it was effectively the first generation as we know the term today.

What I'm saying is, I don't think it was just because 2600 was aging, they had ColecoVision and new games if that was the problem. Correct me where I'm wrong though.

 

[Beautiful Border]

Sure it was aging but console generations didn't exist in the way they do now. It wasn't like they were being fed hype for--or even had an idea about what constituted--"next gen". Atari was '77, Intellivision was '80, and ColecoVision was '82, so it wasn't like there was a shortage of new systems. CV had noticeably better graphics also, so it wasn't purely a matter of graphics.

Also, good games interest people more than new hardware. I think that was probably more true then before console generations were clearly defined. It may have technically been retroactively referred to and categorized as "2nd gen" but it was effectively the first generation as we know the term today.

What I'm saying is, I don't think it was just because 2600 was aging, they had ColecoVision and new games if that was the problem. Correct me where I'm wrong though.

I see where you're coming from, but regardless of whether Nintendo had entered the North American video game market in 1985 or not, the video game industry would have been just fine. There was never going to be a timeline where technology advances to the stage we're at today without video games quickly experiencing some kind of revival after its brief market slump.

Atari's follow-up console, the 7800, sold reasonably well and in a timeline without the NES would have sold much better. Sega's Master System (which from a technical standpoint was a superior system to the NES, by the way) would also have still existed. There's so many different things that you have to completely ignore in order for the "video game crash of 83" fable to make any sense at all, it makes me wonder if the Nintendo fans who keep repeating it know literally fucking anything about the industry they claim to love that wasn't shout out by Iwata and Miyamoto.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Everything that could be said about this already has been said (rest in piss, last year's was shit, it was better in the olden days, there's no room for it in current gaming) so I'll just chime in with a simple:

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I see where you're coming from, but regardless of whether Nintendo had entered the North American video game market in 1985 or not, the video game industry would have been just fine. There was never going to be a timeline where technology advances to the stage we're at today without video games quickly experiencing some kind of revival after its brief market slump.

Atari's follow-up console, the 7800, sold reasonably well and in a timeline without the NES would have sold much better. Sega's Master System (which from a technical standpoint was a superior system to the NES, by the way) would also have still existed. There's so many different things that you have to completely ignore in order for the "video game crash of 83" fable to make any sense at all, it makes me wonder if the Nintendo fans who keep repeating it know literally fucking anything about the industry they claim to love that wasn't shout out by Iwata and Miyamoto.

I think you're right overall, but without Nintendo things would look a lot different. Not that they saved gaming, but someone else would have (Sega almost surely) because there's no world where Atari wouldn't fail (unless they bought Sega or something), they'd just fail later. Instead of dying with Jaguar they'd pump out one more dogshit console before vanishing.