E3 2024 and 2025 have been canceled - Who didn't see this coming?

Seeing that modern AAA games take so long to make these days they probably could get away with only doing E3 every couple of years. I mean I remember watching the last couple E3s and seeing a lot of the same AAA games each time. Just look at Avowed it was first shown off back in 2020 and it's not set to release until next year assuming it doesn't get pushed back farther. Do we need to see a new trailer for it every year until it comes out or is one enough. I wonder if they actually are going to try the show again in 2026 or if this is really it.
 
Anon88 said:
Seeing that modern AAA games take so long to make these days they probably could get away with only doing E3 every couple of years.
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Except even with those long dev times, they are still under a time crunch, especialy if it's a company that has shareholders to please. So time really isn't a factor. The passion, the creativity, the thrive of making an actual good game... THAT is what's lost to time and is part of the reason why E3 became dogshit.

All these companies don't have anything new and/or mindblowing to offer. It's the same soulless shit made even worse when they give literal who indie devs a spotlight that have the same bag of shit to offer. Doesn't help almost everything is political either.
 
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Celebrate Nite said:
Except even with those long dev times, they are still under a time crunch, especialy if it's a company that has shareholders to please. So time really isn't a factor. The passion, the creativity, the thrive of making an actual good game... THAT is what's lost to time and is part of the reason why E3 became dogshit.

All these companies don't have anything new and/or mindblowing to offer. It's the same soulless shit made even worse when they give literal who indie devs a spotlight that have the same bag of shit to offer. Doesn't help almost everything is political either.
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Yeah good points I guess E3 every couple of years wouldn't make them as much money and it still would be boring to watch. I guess it really is just dead then. Probably for the best really. Maybe someday when these companies start making good games it can come back.
 
Rome's rightful successor said:
Apparently comic con is dying too.
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I never had an interest in Comic Con, but it sounded like a total nightmare.

  • Panels that required you to wait in line for 12 hours just to get a seat
  • Celebrities that charged a mint for their meet ‘n’ greets
  • Comic Con exclusive limited consoomer toys that had their own 12 hour lines
  • Need to buy your tickets a YEAR in advance, right after the last one ends
It’s like all the worst parts of nerd culture combined into one giant heaping hellfest. Good riddance.
 
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I remember back in like 2013 a friend of mine was dating this chick, and she told me she failed a semester of school and went into a few thousand of dollars in debt because she had a chance to go to SDCC at the last minute the year prior.

I think that's when I started realizing I didn't want to hang out with hardcore nerds anymore. Even by that point I realized SDCC was a crowded, stinky, worthless place so to fuck up your life signifigantly just to go there was mind boggling to me.
 
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Quarterback Rex Grossman said:
What is this zoomer revisionism? Arcades were still around in the early 2000s.
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Not where I lived, unless we're using the millennial definition of 3 machines in the local theater and food courts as "arcades", or you were willing to travel to some theme location.

Edit: Oh wait, you're talking Japan aren't you?
 
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Quarterback Rex Grossman said:
What is this zoomer revisionism? Arcades were still around in the early 2000s.
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Hell, arcades are still around now. A lot of smaller "ma and pa" arcades have shut down, but Dave & Busters still has surprisingly strong business, especially considering how bad it was during Covid lockdown.

Like others have said, I've seen smaller "arcades" in local malls growing up, but nothing on the scale of something like D&B. You might find some ancient Mortal Kombat or Galaga cabinets in the smaller places, while D&B has machines that were mostly all made relatively recently. I wouldn't exactly call my home town a backwater, but it was far from being an urban area where you'd be more prone to find those types of places.

Imagine my shock to find out they're still making House of the Dead machines. Instead of two people hovering around a cabinet with a burnt out CRT monitor, it's displayed on an HD monitor and runs in a modern graphics engine.

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E3 peaked during the late 90's and early 2000.

By the X360/PS3 era it was already slowing down as streaming meant we didn't have to wait for TV shows to show us anything, we could just watch it live straight from the studios' channel.

Also the reason why the TGS is still going strong its because it was always open to the public, meanwhile E3 was always an exclusive event for journos to huff their own farts, and nobody respect game journos anymore so its pointless to cater to them.
Night Crawler said:
E3 has gone the way of must have game culture people standing in lines outside brick and mortar stores to buy a game on release. It's just not needed anymore.
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I was ordering games online all the way back when Sonic Adventure 2 launched.

That's not the point, waiting in line wasn't even a thing during most of the 90's either, and when it became common it was more about hanging around with your friends and meet other people.

But now most games are online-only and zoomers get anxiety attacks when ordering a pizza thru the phone.
Pissmaster said:
, so they’re betting on a big new console announcement to save E3.
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Who does a live launch anymore? even apple which started this trend of putting on a show on stage is now doing pre-recorded heavily edited presentations.
Night Crawler said:
I never remember seeing an arcade back in the mid to late 90's.
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Arcades were still popular until online kicked off.

That was the real killer, sure with the Dreamcast you already had arcade-like graphics so you didn't get floored by seeing a game in 640x480 running at full 60fps with AA while the console version was 320x240 at 30fps at best and jaggy as fuck, but online killed arcades because the main component of arcades at the time was playing with your friends using linked cabinets, and with online you didn't even have to leave your house to do it, and if you were a PC gamer it was more fun to setup a LAN anyway.
Rome's rightful successor said:
Apparently comic con is dying too.
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How the hell you go broke during the capeshit era?

Never ever before you had so many pretend-nerds burning money on this shit and yet they are failing, HOW?
Croaking Spider said:
Hell, arcades are still around now.
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Weird how nobody really tried to do VR arcades given that you need at least $2000 to get a decent rig going, and state-of-the-art shit with 8K helmets at 144hz would cost as much as a Daytona cabinet did in 1995.

Else the only affordable VR is the Quest which is mostly meh minigames with early-PS3 era graphics at best. They haven't been able to get even San Andreas to run on that thing yet.

All I seen were half assed "VR bars" where the most entertaining thing was seeing some guy knocking over a waitress' tray with his controller, then having to help clean the mess.
 
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cybertoaster said:
Weird how nobody really tried to do VR arcades given that you need at least $2000 to get a decent rig going, and state-of-the-art shit with 8K helmets at 144hz would cost as much as a Daytona cabinet did in 1995.
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I remember there being something like one around my old place, though it wasn't too big. No idea if it survived the big glut of small businesses closing around 2020. It had some good reviews, which makes me regret not visiting when I had the chance, since I never splurged on getting a VR setup at home. I'd guess that it's just too niche currently to catch on as an arcade style, or maybe the costs are just too much compared to opening up another business in the same spot.
 
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I remember there being something like one around my old place, though it wasn't too big. No idea if it survived the big glut of small businesses closing around 2020. It had some good reviews, which makes me regret not visiting when I had the chance, since I never splurged on getting a VR setup at home. I'd guess that it's just too niche currently to catch on as an arcade style, or maybe the costs are just too much compared to opening up another business in the same spot.
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I think companies doing VR stuff should've been the ones doing these VR arcades, like Valve. Consider how SEGA got its foot in the console market thanks to arcades. Valve should at least put a few VR arcades with their headsets so you could play AAA VR games like Alyx (or an arcade version of those games, say a VR version of CSGO) so people would be like "yeah I'm going to take the plunge on the Index and a highend PC" rather that having to do it just to try the thing.
 
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Croaking Spider said:
but Dave & Busters still has surprisingly strong business
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Maybe with their bowling and resteraunts, but i don't see how they're still surviving when Round 1 became a thing.

The difference is night and day. D&B has (for the most part) safe cellphone-ish games for the kiddies. Round 1 has imports from japan, including the sit-down fighting game arcade cabinets. Shit get's PACKED at night, especially on a weekend.
 
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Celebrate Nite said:
Maybe with their bowling and resteraunts, but i don't see how they're still surviving when Round 1 became a thing.

The difference is night and day. D&B has (for the most part) safe cellphone-ish games for the kiddies. Round 1 has imports from japan, including the sit-down fighting game arcade cabinets. Shit get's PACKED at night, especially on a weekend.
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I just went for the first thing off the top of my head. I've never heard of Round 1 before. I hit the Google search and it turns out there isn't even one in my state. Around here, D&B is pretty much the dominant business in its market. Enough to wipe out most of the old school "arcades" around here anyways.

After seeing the search results, I feel mildly cheated.
 
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