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Sandshrew said:
We should cut any foreign aid that goes to Africa next. Let niggers go extinct without free gibs from wypipo.
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Penguin Soldier said:
You could stop there.
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Any countries that we would want to bail out/aid (Canada, UK, Australia, NZ, etc) are countries that don't need aid.
clever handle said:
To those who might not understand why us "heartless" people would take satisfaction in, or at least refuse to mourn something like this, I entreat you to consider that every partisan dispute is not between the victimizers and the victimized, but between two sides arguing that their victims are the more valid. I'm forced to slave away the best years of my life pouring most of my free time away into a job I want nothing to do with, all so someone can benefit from the fruit of my labor to live the life they actually want to.

I'm spending my limited time on this earth and the best years I'll ever have, every single day, just to gain them the fiscal liberty that I'm actively being denied. That's why I have increasingly less sympathy for the terminally-unemployed.

I like you guys, but that extends to those among you it applies to as well. Make your excuses, but the fact is you're wasting my life so you can live yours.
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Very good point. Would you settle for it going to the truly needy, or do you not want it all/prefer private charities?
 
All Americans should be familiar with their state's Castle Doctrine laws. You never know when you might need to defend yourself, even in the best of economies.
Do not fear the courts. If cops arrest you for defending, say nothing to them and let your lawyer handle it in front of a judge.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
It literally is because we ended up in a fucking desert and had to work with what we had, which was literally nothing. Utah was untouched. We literally planted stuff along the trail here so people would have food along the way. For the most part it worked. The Donner Dinner party was the worst case everything fucking failed example, and there were many, many reasons why that expedition was a clusterfuck.
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Mormon was a stab in the dark, but that explains a lot.
 
Chromeo said:
When I worked at a Walmart years and years ago, a lot of my job was helping people on welfare. Some of them were welfare queens, but the vast majority weren't. They were normal-ass people who needed help to get by, poor mothers with babies or group homes that used the residents' LINK cards to stock the group home's kitchen.
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IIRC walmart somewhere had a donation bin for people to have a better thanksgiving. I know it was a while ago but that not only is insulting but the type of person who is entitled to SNAP so that they can you know eat. Their always is an innocent group on some policy change that's boned. Sad but true.
 
FatalTater said:
All Americans should be familiar with their state's Castle Doctrine laws. You never know when you might need to defend yourself, even in the best of economies.
Do not fear the courts. If cops arrest you for defending, say nothing to them and let your lawyer handle it in front of a judge.
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The obvious counter to that: corrupt judges.
And to add onto that: the possibility for media to poison the jury, if there is a jury pool to intimidate.
 
Mister Fister said:
She needs to read up on the Castle doctrine.
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No she doesn't black people going house to house doing this would be the best possible outcome. It will show Americans on the fence the advantage of gun ownership. People in blue states will suffer and also learn the advantage of well funded police departments. This is totally blue city nigger mentality. No one in the south no matter the skin color would think this would work there.
 
Chromeo said:
While I agree the message is based and I'm not sorry for the jackasses featured in this and other threads, I AM sorry for people who may genuinely go without.

When I worked at a Walmart years and years ago, a lot of my job was helping people on welfare. Some of them were welfare queens, but the vast majority weren't. They were normal-ass people who needed help to get by, poor mothers with babies or group homes that used the residents' LINK cards to stock the group home's kitchen.

I know Null said anyone who can't feed themselves should die, but that's just too cruel to me. There will always be people in a society who can't work; elderly and infirm, people with ACTUAL disabilities, and leaving them to the wolves is just sociopath behavior. Humans take care of people in their society even when they've stopped being productive. That's love, and it's the right thing to do. If my tax money has to go somewhere, that's probably the best place for it.

I just hope that the folks that actually need help have stocked up enough in advance to not be too horribly impacted by this. At least they usually spend their welfare on food that lasts longer than fucking bags of Takis and fruit punch.
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What bothers me about this line of thinking and frustrates most people is that while yes, leaving mawmaw to starve and die in the cold is horrific, it’s not necessarily the business of the govt to take our money by force and reallocate it as they see fit.

I have no issues helping out the poor and the infirm, but a significant reason that govt safety nets have bloated the way they have is the breakdown of the traditional family unit and the pulling away from centering our communities on, well, the community. Churches were really excellent in helping people and administration of goods and services to the needy, it’s a fair part of the reason they’re not taxed. It’s understood that a lot of that $ will go back into the community they serve.

Now we have absolutely fucking retarded amounts of single mothers bc they don’t have to pick good mates- the government picks up the slack with benefits and reduced childcare. All the “sexual liberation” did was embolden the worst of our society to create mouths they can’t feed and breed out of control, when the men don’t stick around bc the govt will step in bc of course they will. These shit men will stay while they benefit and leave when it gets too hard for the next welfare queen. The more reliant you are on them the bigger they’ll get, the more they get away with and the less you can expect. The govt undoubtedly benefits from a society not centered around church as well- they’re the highest law in the land. There’s nothing above and nothing you’re held to aside from the almighty “gibmedats”.

It used to be if you couldn’t pay your light bill, if you needed help with baby sitting, if you were short on $ and needed food for dinner the community did provide. If mawmaw needed the snow taken off the roof so it didn’t cave in, the community did provide that. If houses of the elderly were in disrepair the community could help. Now the city ones them to oblivion and then takes their homes for the unpaid fines and no one is the wiser bc people live shoulder to shoulder smelling one another’s shit and don’t even know their neighbor’s names. Bc they don’t have to. There’s no reason to when they’re never gonna care about who is beside them and if they’re hungry. Bc if they’re hungry they should god get SNAP, what are they? Stupid?? The government actively incentivizes this shit behavior bc if you have to rely on them to eat then you won’t rebel, and you’ll always vote in the interests of the politicians.

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Meowstery said:
maybe having 6 keeds without a job was NOT a good idea
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The core issue is using GDP as a way to measure "economic strength" and having "public consume" enter that voodoo metric as a positive number instead of a negative. As long as that isn't reversed and Boomers and socialists (primarily 'banks' dealing in legal tender loaning and monetary base inflation) look at that number as it is and believe somebody else in the future paying for Schaneequas 6 nigglets including interests now is a sign of economic growth and strenght, too many opportunists have a rational interest to keep shitting out worthless human beans they cant afford and hiring worthless marxist on a public dime to teach worthless union apparathchiks about diversity is strength.

As soon as that metric goes where it belongs, the dust bin of retarded ideas of history, Schaneequa stops shitting out worthless human beans she cant afford and the pyramid scheming re-hypoteticization scammers ('banks' and 'asset managers') go where they belong, a mass grave
 
SOLDIER OF WALES said:
Would you settle for it going to the truly needy, or do you not want it all/prefer private charities?
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Here's the tricky bit: I'm sure everyone currently benefitting from it would vehemently argue that they're "truly needy", it's an unfortunately subjective definition. I'm of the opinion that I would be less against it in a general sense, though, if it was at least reformed.

For one, I would like it if it had firmer checks to find fraud and proper eligibility among those receiving it - I recall this was a point of reform in republican Rome's famous grain dole, where they managed to cut down the amount they were spending on it, while also reforming it such that it went to the people who actually needed it as opposed to the fraudsters grown fat on it, which left everyone (worthwhile) happy.

For two, it would need to be structured with better incentives. If it's meant to be utilized for people to get up onto their feet, then it cannot serve them comfort. Being more brutalist about the way it's used, such as only qualifying for foods that sate your nutritional needs but aren't particularly fun or tasty, would both save money, which is obviously useful, and more crucially, set up an incentive system for the people using it to get to a point where they're not using it, because using it shouldn't be enjoyable. If the benefit isn't enjoyable, then people can't get comfortable with it; they should think "this sucks, I want food better than this".

That is to say, the best living with these benefits should be worse than the worst living without them, or else people will feel incentivized to seek them out as opposed to the societal behavior we should want to be encouraging.

More sympathetically, it would also need to be designed in such a way as to eliminate the odd goldilocks zone where getting any job in a low income bracket gives you less effective spending power than the benefits. After all, why would someone want to get into the workforce, if they'd just get less money for doing so and lose a lot more time besides?

Societies and systems of all sorts are governed by their incentives, and corruption is a response to the behavior those incentives encourage. If we want benefit systems to be less exploited and more appreciated by all sides, we need to structure them in the way that serves the purpose of pushing its beneficiaries into a desire to be employed.

Also, if someone is so "truly needy" that they're incapable of working literally any job (IE they have no functioning limbs and severe brain damage), then I have no idea why they even want to be alive to begin with. There are so many kinds of ways to contribute to society that don't require being able to benchpress 120lbs.
 
Necrosan said:
Why do they never say "Let's go after the government/senators/the people responsible"?

You might get a fuck "Trump here" or there but they take it out on the people least responsible for their misery. Democrat or Republican. It's like these people do not exist to them.
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You mean the people with security, guns, and a voice in the system? Nancy Pelosi is corrupt as shit, and everyone knows it, but nothing happens to her ass because she knows the people who enforce the laws. When you are part of the system, you get better treatment than the average joe. A black can murder any average White person in an urban shithole, and be out on bail by that afternoon. Yet if they touch any White democrat with power, well they'll learn what real police brutality is then. Niggers are never gonna go after the hard targets, even when that would cause the most positive change for them because it requires sacrifice. Its why despite all the crying about Trump's racism, both his attempted murderers were White as snow.
 
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