El Chapo's son's arrest prompts a wave of cartel terror attacks in the Sinaloa region

[WolfeTone]

>assuming the CIA won't stoke the flames of terror to achieve their own agendas

SilverCorp's failed coup attempt and Guido's absolute flop has shown me that the current state of the CIA, compared to in the 80s atleast, is completely gutted.

 

[NoReturn]

Why does no one ever question this shit?

Because the CIA says not to.

This has been floating around social media, allegedly the cartel gave the Mexican government an ultimatum, demanding the release of Guzmán within 72 hours. Otherwise they will attack shopping centers, gas stations, military and government infrastructure.
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"y objectivos civiles militares. y gubernmentales."
The "and governmental" comes after a period, like it was an afterthought.

 

[JackoVerde]

"y objectivos civiles militares. y gubernmentales."
The "and governmental" comes after a period, like it was an afterthought.

you made 2 bad assumptions
1. that the cartels have any respect or reverence to the Mexican government
2. that the cartels are well educated enough to not use essentialy the word "and" to start a sentence when there should have been a coma.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Not directly linked to this thread but American Thinker posted a good rant about violence in Mexico.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/01/many_dead_in_mexico.html

January 15, 2023

Many dead in Mexico​

By Silvio Canto, Jr.

The summit is over, and it's time to take review of AMLO's "hugs not bullets" policy.
The policy is failing big time. This is the story:

According to a report from Mexico's Secretariat of National Defense (Sedena) leaked to the public by Guacamaya hacktivists, organized crime groups and cartels operating within Mexico have been directly responsible for 64,910 deaths across the country since Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) assumed the presidency in 2018, the highest number of organized crime-related deaths seen in Mexico since it began keeping track of cartel killings in 2007.

Someone did not get the "hugs" memo because the bullets keep flying!
The real problem is that Presidente AMLO cannot stop the violence. It's out of his control because of Mexico's fragile rule of law. In other words, AMLO has to know that the criminal elements run the streets and will get their way. This is why he loves to talk about the change of presidents in Peru or talk generalities with his amigos Biden and Trudeau.
It's Chicago times one hundred! It's what everybody is talking about in Mexico. Let's look at last week. This is from The Guardian:

 

[Agent of Z.O.G.]

We getting some new vids or what?

 

[TrulyMan]

Unfortunately commiefornia only accounts for a fraction of the drug issues. Most of the profitable drug routes go through places like Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico and maybe the imperial valley.

The Sinaloa Cartel is still alive and well it's just in a civil war between El Chapos sons and El Mayo and his son's. El Mayo pre COVID was able to keep a hold on the violence but rumors are he is getting older and his son's hate Los Chapitos.

The big concern and the worst case scenario is The CJNG ie Jalisco New Generation cartel will take over the routes from the Sinaloa cartel and or the Gulf/los Zetas and cross into the US. All the other groups even the Los Zetas during their peak violence we're still primarily drug cartels first. Violence even for the violent los Zetas was still a means to an end.

The Jalisco New Generation they're more of the Let's go into the City kill a bunch of people and keep people in line through sheer terror. Which at the end of the day those people crossing north and let's say shooting up the El Paso police department will turn them from a criminal organization into a terrorist organization. Which means Mexico now has to deal with US troops in Mexico something they don't want to deal with.

I had no idea. I'll take your word for it but if you have any more new panorama article on the cartels (please not Wikipedia) Id be grateful to read it. My impression, and I was a bit into Cartel lore long back, was that there was nobody worse than Los Zetas. I mean we're talking kidnapping people and putting them to fight in pits and recruiting the survivors as killers and killing (not disolving dead bodies) people in acid.

will turn them from a criminal organization into a terrorist organization.

This is more a sociopolitical statement. Most poor rural mexicans would probably rather live under an organized force like the FARC or even the Right Wing paramilitaries of Colombia who provide basic services, don't completely extort the population and subject them to arbitrary killings.

Now yes, it's a bigger "problem" for Law and order/The US/Mexican government. But that's not the same as saying that the violence is worse or more brutal. It could be but its like, an irrelevant point for the people living there on its own.

 

[LeChampion1992]

I had no idea. I'll take your word for it but if you have any more new panorama article on the cartels (please not Wikipedia) Id be grateful to read it. My impression, and I was a bit into Cartel lore long back, was that there was nobody worse than Los Zetas. I mean we're talking kidnapping people and putting them to fight in pits and recruiting the survivors as killers and killing (not disolving dead bodies) people in acid.

Things can always be worse, there are some things the CJNG that differ from even a hyper violent cartel. You know one that takes business first vs political statements.

This is more a sociopolitical statement. Most poor rural mexicans would probably rather live under an organized force like the FARC or even the Right Wing paramilitaries of Colombia who provide basic services, don't completely extort the population and subject them to arbitrary killings.

Things really have improved in a lot in the last 20-25 years due to cartels like the Sinaloa Cartel basically paving the freeways and highways properly.

Now yes, it's a bigger "problem" for Law and order/The US/Mexican government. But that's not the same as saying that the violence is worse or more brutal. It could be but its like, an irrelevant point for the people living there on its own.

People in Mexico have always been a more passionate people who are prone to fits of hot blooded passionate hyper violent rage. They're not too different from Americans.

 

[Agent of Z.O.G.]

Is this contained or still on? Let's check Twatter:
Jan 20: A recent video shows 'Cártel de Jalisco Nueva Generación' (#CJNG) members disarming 'Guardia Nacional' Forces in #Comalapa, #Chiapas.
Jan 17: The new video showing a Sinaloa Cartel (#CDS) base 300 meters from the border and cartel members shooting at a US drone with an AK rifle.
Jan 15: Armed members of the "La Familia Michoacána" (#LFM) Cartel recorded a video as they drive by an alleged HQ of Mexican Army. One of the members appears to be holding a quite rare RPG-2 rocket launcher along with PG-2 pattern projectile.

I guess we're back to cartels doing cartel things unless I'm missing something (which I probably am since I didn't look too deep).

On a tangential note becasue I don't want to start a "gib cartel books" thread, I tried looking for Nazario Moreno González's books and couldn't find them anywhere.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

El Chapos son will probably now be taken into an American prison soon where he will places into supermax or some other major facility where he will not be the top dog. Instead he will have to play by the rules and deal with Aryan brotherhood, folks, and various other prison gangs that don't take to kindly to this spic being in their jail.

Not sure where they'll hold him pre-trial but if he ends up somewhere like Florence, he'll be fine. Bored, but safe.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Not sure where they'll hold him pre-trial but if he ends up somewhere like Florence, he'll be fine. Bored, but safe.

Seeing as he will be in the American system, he will probably be fine and in isolation. I don't expect him to make any escape from a US jail anytime soon.

 

[CowPox]

What's the deal with them leaving pizza with the bodies?

 

[cybertoaster]

Going to be absolutely fucked when the Biden administration exchanges El Chapo’s son for Ethan Ralph

BREAKING: chapo's son "el chapito" says "I rather be executed by the gringos that let that gunt monster into mexico"

Jan 17: The new video showing a Sinaloa Cartel (#CDS) base 300 meters from the border and cartel members shooting at a US drone with an AK rifle.

The government will ignore this at our own peril.

Also why are our forces using chinese drones? or these are militias just larping in mall commando gear?

 

[KingNothing]

Plaza boss killed by Mexican authorities

https://www.latintimes.com/sinaloa-cartel-plaza-boss-known-el-chabelo-killed-mexican-police-after-shootout-cock-fighting-569528