Elden Ring

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That’s why it’s the true Zombie ending. You’re following the instructions of an adherent to a god you killed.
I don't think that's the right take. The description of Elden Stars outright says that the Greater Will sent the Elden Beast to the Lands Between:
It is said that long ago,
the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between,
which would later become the Elden Ring.
The Elden Beast isn't the Greater Will made manifest, it's more like a Biblically Accurate™ angel than a god.
 
I don't think that's the right take. The description of Elden Stars outright says that the Greater Will sent the Elden Beast to the Lands Between:

The Elden Beast isn't the Greater Will made manifest, it's more like a Biblically Accurate™ angel than a god.
“It is said” is the thing that makes me doubt it. The game lore is fun because then you have the rememberence of the Elden Beast say

Remembrance of the Elden Beast, hewn into the Erdtree.

The power of its namesake can be unlocked by the Finger Reader.
Alternatively, it can be used to gain a great bounty of runes.

It was the vassal beast of the Greater Will and living incarnation of the concept of Order.”


Hewn it was cut into the Erdtree, perhaps grafted on. The current Elden Ring is not the same as the past or even the Crucible Elden Ring.

The entire order line has me think that the GW and Beast are just backers who Marika and Godfrey wanted to fuck if.
 
I played through again in preparation for the dlc I got the frenzied flame ending.
Buddy of mine took the flame as well but didn’t get Melina’s vow to kill him:

Turns out if you go down to the frenzied flame but don’t take it, then continue till Melina sacrifices herself. After that take the frenzied flame and you don’t have a promise by Melina to kill you.
 
using my 150 ng+ character for dlc, just speed ran to mogh for my third boss, even at that level it still takes no time to get invasions popping
 
I leveled a new character to 130 for the DLC since I'm not sure how a NG+ character will impact the scaling.

I want the best experience possible and I feel like this is probably the way to go.
 
>paying $50 for a dlc

Please, I beg of you, stop giving tencent money
 
Does anyone think the patches quest will be continued in the DLC? In the base game it just kinda ends with you giving an iteam to Lady Tanith but that doesnt do anything, and patches moves back into his cave. it feels pointless.
Was the joke just that Patches quest is installed into the game over multiple patches? I don't get it,
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I doubt that they will because they haven't had base game content expanded upon in the DLC of any of their other games, but my point is still that this quest feels pointless.
 
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Goldmask removes the will of the gods, not freewill.
He removes Marika’s freewill and makes her a slave to the Golden Order Fundemenalists aka the Elden Beasts fanboys who don’t even know it. Gold Mask doesn’t ask why Marika smashed the Ring, he’s just angry she did. He see’s her moving against the Order as bad without trying to understand anything. Ranni and Miquella are backed by Marika for whatever reason and they both see the Order as a failure.

There’s a whole plot going on that suggests Marika basically allowed the Night of Black Knives and it might’ve been to kill the Beast. Supposedly the new healing spell in the DLC suggests that the Order imposed itself on Marika and the Erdtree.

The entire plot suggests that the Golden Order has no real solutions, basically no one winning backs them. Radagon shuts off the path to anyone who could claim the title. The Erdtree of the Golden Order is a stump, too. The illusion of Grace also burns, but the actual Stump is the only thing remaining of the actual Erdtree. Sometime before the Shattering the tree burned and their was a paradigm shift because there wasn’t any Sap for shit like the old days.

Does anyone think the patches quest will be continued in the DLC? In the base game it just kinda ends with you giving an iteam to Lady Tanith but that doesnt do anything, and patches moves back into his cave. it feels pointless.
Was the joke just that Patches quest is installed into the game over multiple patches? I don't get it,
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I doubt that they will because they haven't had base game content expanded upon in the DLC of any of their other games, but my point is still that this quest feels pointless.
Hope so Patches never really stabs you in the back in this game. He at most is a disappointing boss fight. He doesn’t even hate clerics.
 
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He removes Marika’s freewill and makes her a slave to the Golden Order Fundemenalists aka the Elden Beasts fanboys who don’t even know it.
He removes the gods ability to meddle in the world. That's it. He never makes her slave, he removes her ability to fuck with the world.

Gold Mask doesn’t ask why Marika smashed the Ring, he’s just angry she did.
At no point does it ever state that he's angry that she did it. If there is please point it out to me, I'd like to know.

He see’s her moving against the Order as bad without trying to understand anything.
Goldmask saw how fickle and capricious the god were and realized that by removing their influence a lot of problems could be solved.

Ranni and Miquella are backed by Marika for whatever reason and they both see the Order as a failure.
Ranni has her own agenda that would of eventually clashed with Marika, as it required it to kill all the gods, including her. Miquella on the other had is literally okay with stripping free will from people, as it states on the Bewitching Branch:

Tree branch blessed with an incantation of unalloyed gold.
Craftable item.

Pierce a foe, using FP to turn them into a temporary ally.

The Empyrean Miquella is loved by many people. Indeed, he has learned very well how to compel such affection.


You don't get a choice with Miquella, you will love and obey him.

The whole thing screams to me that there were several parties conspiring to kill Godwyn, with each having their own private agenda and each thought they'd be the one to come out on top.

Goldmask looked at that said "..." and made it so Marika's, Miquella's, and Ranni's shitfuckery wouldn't dick over the Lands Between anymore than it already has.
 
He removes the gods ability to meddle in the world. That's it. He never makes her slave, he removes her ability to fuck with the world.


At no point does it ever state that he's angry that she did it. If there is please point it out to me, I'd like to know.


Goldmask saw how fickle and capricious the god were and realized that by removing their influence a lot of problems could be solved.


Ranni has her own agenda that would of eventually clashed with Marika, as it required it to kill all the gods, including her. Miquella on the other had is literally okay with stripping free will from people, as it states on the Bewitching Branch:

Tree branch blessed with an incantation of unalloyed gold.
Craftable item.

Pierce a foe, using FP to turn them into a temporary ally.

The Empyrean Miquella is loved by many people. Indeed, he has learned very well how to compel such affection.


The whole thing screams to me that there were several parties conspiring to kill Godwyn but each had their own private agenda and each thought they'd be the one to come out on top.

Goldmask looked at that said "..." and made it so Marika's, Miquella's, and Ranni's shitfuckery wouldn't dick over the Lands Between.
>he removes the God’s ability to meddle
>not free will

Nigger he lobotomizes everyone because he’s pissed off that his religion is something its founder doesn’t want. He gets pissed about Radagon is Marika because it’s an affront to what he believes.

Miquella’s whole issue is that the Order has no solutions to any of his problems. The brainwashing branches are his means to an end. Goldmask’s end is ensuring that his religion cannot be contested.

The Golden Order and the Fundementalists really have no answers. Goldmask ensures no one can question them.
 
>he removes the God’s ability to meddle
>not free will

Nigger he lobotomizes everyone because he’s pissed off that his religion is something its founder doesn’t want. He gets pissed about Radagon is Marika because it’s an affront to what he believes.

Miquella’s whole issue is that the Order has no solutions to any of his problems. The brainwashing branches are his means to an end. Goldmask’s end is ensuring that his religion cannot be contested.

The Golden Order and the Fundementalists really have no answers. Goldmask ensures no one can question them.
The Gods =/= free will.

The only person that has a breakdown about Radagon being Marika is Corhyn, who may or may not of murdered Goldmask, depending on how wish to interpret things.

Miquella wanted to find a cure for his sister and had no problem with brainwashing people.

The Golden Order had answers, but due to a certain blue bitch and Marika's fuckery, made certain that the Order would decay and rot, like Godwyn.

You really think about it, nearly all the problems in the lands between are a result of Marika and Ranni's meddling. Good thing there was at least one guy that recognized that and made it so they can't fuck with things.
 
The Gods =/= free will.

The only person that has a breakdown about Radagon being Marika is Corhyn, who may or may not of murdered Goldmask, depending on how wish to interpret things.

Miquella wanted to find a cure for his sister and had no problem with brainwashing people.

The Golden Order had answers, but due to a certain blue bitch and Marika's fuckery, made certain that the Order would decay and rot, like Godwyn.

You really think about it, nearly all the problems in the lands between are a result of Marika and Ranni's meddling. Good thing there was at least one guy that recognized that and made it so they can't fuck with things.
Nigga the order is a giant cope religion made after someone (the Giants or Mesmer) burned down the Erdtree.

The Eras in the game are as follows:

Gloam-eyed Queen and Elden Lord Ghidorah that Marika and Godfrey overthrow with the help of Sarrosh.

Crucible Era to Golden Lineage Era Godfrey and Marika reign. Sap flows out of the Erdtree and it’s a physical giant tree.

Golden Order Era after the War against the Giants. The Erdtree is a stump and no more sap. Radagon marries Marika.

The Shattering is basically a fight over which Outer God is going to claim influence over the new age. Radagon and the Beast do not want anyone becoming Elden Lord, Marika does.

Marika’s spoken dialogue at sites of Grace is counter to her actions. She basically shatters the ring in a gambit to recall the Tarnished in hopes that Godfrey or something else.

This will all probably be disproven when the DLC comes out, but Marika probably is not the villain.
 
This will all probably be disproven when the DLC comes out, but Marika probably is not the villain.
She's one half the problem, Ranni was the other.

Good thing Goldmask recognized that.

Goldmask made it so selfish assholes gods couldn't fuck with the world, plain and simple, nothing more, nothing less. Don't know why you have such a hard time with that.
 
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I've progressed Goldmask's quest and read this thread and have come to the conclusion that Fromsoft is just as charmingly obscurantist as ever and no one really knows what's going on. Hoping the DLC at least narrows the range of plausible interpretations.
 
The Shazam troons are out in full force on /v/. I'm curious to see what the final product will look like.
 
The Shazam troons are out in full force on /v/. I'm curious to see what the final product will look like.
The leaks are real and the people coping are unbelievably retarded.
The Radhan model they have is PS1 quality and the Miquella they have literally uses the Twin Princes arms. That and the constant effect spam on screen makes me think it’s one of the Archethrone fags who got kicked off the project.

The animations compared to the new bosses are also just shit.
 
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