Elden Ring

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Dean Pentel said:
I've heard he's got a bunch of simps and jannies in his Discord that find facts/lore for him and he has someone else compile it all in a script for him.
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Honestly, kinda respect that.
Nigga gets to talk about video games for money and he has a legion of nerds doing pro bono work for him, I have to respect the hustle.
 
Dean Pentel said:
I've heard he's got a bunch of simps and jannies in his Discord that find facts/lore for him and he has someone else compile it all in a script for him.
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there was some other lore dude who got buried online years ago by vaati cultists, because the former pointed out that vaati presented in 1 of his vids info he gained from some other guy, Without crediting the latter.
 
Zertes said:
I wish Elden ring was a more of traditional RPG, really wanted to see From oft approach and design towards cities, quests and factions
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I would like for their next souls-like game to be in another setting that's not in ruins. It's getting a bit repetitive to always arrive at the aftermath of whatever happened and try to fix it. I would like for them to experiment a bit with that, to arrive before or when the world is getting fucked. Getting to see or hear the fall of capitals after we interact with them for a bit, getting routes blocked by bandits or armies after the mid game (Substantial blocks and not the wimpy barricades that most roads employ in ER), the terrain changing due to the aftermaths of a battle, etc.
 
Finger Pistols said:
I would like for their next souls-like game to be in another setting that's not in ruins. It's getting a bit repetitive to always arrive at the aftermath of whatever happened and try to fix it. I would like for them to experiment a bit with that, to arrive before or when the world is getting fucked. Getting to see or hear the fall of capitals after we interact with them for a bit, getting routes blocked by bandits or armies after the mid game (Substantial blocks and not the wimpy barricades that most roads employ in ER), the terrain changing due to the aftermaths of a battle, etc.
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I agree with you here. I suspect this will never happen because From knows that their formula works from the perspective of profits. They're unlikely to shift away from that in any substantial way, at least for Soulsborne stuff. I don't know how much autonomy Miyazaki has regarding making such decisions, because I bet he'd like to do something very different too.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Keep forgetting about it but Vaati put a dragon lore video. Like 99% of the lore in the game, it's recycled concepts from the lore in previous games just ungodly more convoluted

For example the point of "dragon scales make them immortal" in DS1 is to justify a dragon boss and its insane doctor lab areas. But in ER those still exist despite never having anything to do with any quest and just way to differentiate dragons. You also have Bloodborne style consuming creature blood for strength with cost of physical and mental change, but if that was the driving force of the plot, here it is just a boss reward mechanic that as far as I aware never amounts to anything.
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If ER had actual lore, not scattered tidbits of information you basically need to be an archeologist to find this guy wouldnt exist.
 
Secret Boots said:
Radahn definitely didn't want to be Miquella's consort. If he did, Malenia would have had no reason to attack him.
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He most likely agreed to be consort and then reneged on the promise somewhere down the line, but it's likely he had some affection for his brother at an earlier time before obtaining the great rune which compelled him to agree to a childish vow, or else he was just straight up seduced by Miquella's charm.
 
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Pumpkin Girl IRL said:
I still have no idea why the fuck we'd want to rule what's left of the Lands Between. Thousands of years of conflict, no functioning economy, no civilian population, the army is all undead and nutty...

Sitting on the throne fixes all that? Idk idc
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problem wont solve it's self i guess
 
Pumpkin Girl IRL said:
I still have no idea why the fuck we'd want to rule what's left of the Lands Between. Thousands of years of conflict, no functioning economy, no civilian population, the army is all undead and nutty...

Sitting on the throne fixes all that? Idk idc
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no facetiousness from me, just my analysis:
-initially, the tarnished of no renown somehow knew about "seek the elden ring, and become elden lord." maybe from the speck of grace/ gold that touches his hand in the intro.
-this idea "to seek" interested the tarnished enough, i guess, to power through the tutorial area and begin the journey guided by grace (literal graces pointing the direction on where to go next.)

-but since it's a Role-playing Game, fromsoftware wants you to role-play what you want.
-obtain the different endings, and whatever consequences they may entail. this doesn't necessarily fix anything. since i think you just curse more people if you roll with bungeater (just as an example.)
 
thx to the dude who recommended crepus' vial + unseen form. mobs become blind, lol

-for 35 str, the Black Steel Greatshield is really good, imo.
-greatbows actually knock npc-sized enemies on their asses.
 
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Dean Pentel said:
I've heard he's got a bunch of simps and jannies in his Discord that find facts/lore for him and he has someone else compile it all in a script for him.
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I never understood the hate for lore jewtubers.
First, the whole situation is similar to "how the sausage is made". Nobody really cares what happens behind the curtain. As long as you don't pay money, or are one of the slave workers, all that matters if the final product.
Second, unless you're some drooling cretin, you should have the ability to entertain a thought without accepting it. The way some people speak, it's like they're NPCs, and watching something will somehow overwrite their original programmed thoughts. Whenever I watched a video like this, I always test it against my own experience and ideas and see which has more merit, or if a hybrid theory can be made of the two.
Finally, while some criticism is valid, most come from pettiness and jealousy and it's very evident.

Look, if someone wants to sell me on hating a guy, the exploitation of discord trannies isn't it. I'm actually inclined to think it's based and wish I could do it myself, but I will never install Discord.
 
Estate said:
I never understood the hate for lore jewtubers.
First, the whole situation is similar to "how the sausage is made". Nobody really cares what happens behind the curtain. As long as you don't pay money, or are one of the slave workers, all that matters if the final product.
Second, unless you're some drooling cretin, you should have the ability to entertain a thought without accepting it. The way some people speak, it's like they're NPCs, and watching something will somehow overwrite their original programmed thoughts. Whenever I watched a video like this, I always test it against my own experience and ideas and see which has more merit, or if a hybrid theory can be made of the two.
Finally, while some criticism is valid, most come from pettiness and jealousy and it's very evident.

Look, if someone wants to sell me on hating a guy, the exploitation of discord trannies isn't it. I'm actually inclined to think it's based and wish I could do it myself, but I will never install Discord.
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Few reasons:
1. Usually they are just retarded, either getting stuck on their own lore headcanon and doing everything to force it even if it is contradictory to other lore or basic common sense, or just mentioning obvious shit as some grand discoveries. The best example is Vaati spending several minutes on a lore video over a monument which turned out to be store bought asset.
2. They actively ruin the gaming scene. A lot of games now lore bait rather than write their own lore, or just don't even bother to have a story and just have base events and throw vague records to make it seem like the story is deep.
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3. The more popular they get the more faggots they are. Vaati is the most obvious case where he makes pointless cutscenes and speak in overly emotional voice.

Plus the site is mainly to laugh at people we don't like.
 
I'm running through Raya Lucaria again on my new character and I keep having this thought that the level being full of mute, always hostile enemies, dead dogs and zombies, really really doesn't fit with the actual backstory. Like all indications are that the school is still functioning normally but it's another standard Dark Souls level where everyone's insane.

One of my major problems with Elden Ring is that the situation in The Lands Between is bad but society still exists despite all the war and destruction. But you'd never know it since it's more like Souls than Elder Scrolls or whatever RPG you like.
 
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