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Dave. said:
I might be completely unpopular here, but was I the only one who vehemently did not like the Ranni ending? It feels like an ass pull to give people a power fantasy and a hot chick to bone.
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I don't hate it, but I do have problems with it, but those problems amount to how prominent it is in the game and how bare bones the other questlines are.
Rogier and Fia's quest has Rogier's part be completely skippable despite being integral, and Rogier is way too easy to overlook and there's only three characters, Fia, D, and Rogier and only Rogier is that charismatic.
Dung Eaters and Gold Mask's aren't involved enough and have two characters each and come into the game too late.
While everybody, except for Selivus, is prety charismatic in Ranni's questline and you have multiple points of entry in Blaidd and the Manor people end up exploring anyways. Her's is entirely fleshed out in every aspect except lacking some late game content, but by late game people will have already married Ranni and treat that ending as locked in, even in the marketing she's basically presented as the main quest giver and tells the player to find her.
Frenzied Flame is also fine, but all the other quests needed expanding and even the Frenzied Flame probably needed Kale's questline to be fully finished, shame it was cut.
But personally, I don't have a problem with their being a good ending, I just want the other endings to be on the same level of care and time put into them as Ranni's.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Elden Ring really seems to be made for the Reddit crowd and besides a belief that More Content=Better Game, it also thinks that More Lore=Deeper Story, when it's usually the opposite. You didn't need the whole deep lore of the pantheon of DS and how the gods fucked around after the dying of the first flame, you just need to see Gwyn looking old as fuck next to a tiny bonfire to realize how things are fucked. The whole giant civil war on who could put his cock in Miquella's Elden Ring doesn't add anything, all the rules seems to be made up according to what sounds cool rather than what is thematic and has a point.
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Speaking of Reddit, how are the Radahn fans responding to their hecking wholesome warlord taking over the plot of the DLC? Personally, I'm not happy about it.
 
Yeah. I went and re-fought ALLMIND/Iguazu and I had a smile on my face within a moment. Yes, it starts as a five-against-one, but his helpers go down like chumps and then the ALLMIND BETA setup he's rocking is nothing special. Even when he swaps to the big final boss mech, he's still pretty reasonable because he's using the same tricks Ayre used in her fight, and you must do the Fires ending so you will have seen what those tricks are. The only tricky bits the last phase with the legitimately new stuff he pulls out.
 
Coldgrip said:
No, no you weren't. It's the reddit ending.

They should of had a Turtle Pope ending.
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It just kind of irked me when I got it because every other ending has this really dark and nihilistic theme that the gods always win. You are either subservient to them or salting the earth either out of rage or rebelliousness (Frenzy Flame ending/Loathsome Dung Eater), but you're not "defeating" the golden order, the golden order can just declare you a lost cause and move on to something else. Ranni just throws that shit out the window and says "No actually, you can defeat them! You have a chance to! You just have to bone this chick!" I know technically you don't in this ending, but a lot of people speculate that you do and it just gives me Yes Man vibes from Fallout New Vegas. Another asspull "perfect" ending where you can basically break all the rules and somehow everything turns out okay in the end.
 
Tepes Thot said:
-sigh-

I feel like this was always where they wanted to take it the moment they got George on board. This or a TV show.

I wonder if the writing was done with a potential adaption in mind, because that would explain some things.
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Please god let it be animated, I don't wanna associate fun and quirky souls characters with real actors.
Lizard Machine Bugs said:
I don't hate it, but I do have problems with it, but those problems amount to how prominent it is in the game and how bare bones the other questlines are.
Rogier and Fia's quest has Rogier's part be completely skippable despite being integral, and Rogier is way too easy to overlook and there's only three characters, Fia, D, and Rogier and only Rogier is that charismatic.
Dung Eaters and Gold Mask's aren't involved enough and have two characters each and come into the game too late.
While everybody, except for Selivus, is prety charismatic in Ranni's questline and you have multiple points of entry in Blaidd and the Manor people end up exploring anyways. Her's is entirely fleshed out in every aspect except lacking some late game content, but by late game people will have already married Ranni and treat that ending as locked in, even in the marketing she's basically presented as the main quest giver and tells the player to find her.
Frenzied Flame is also fine, but all the other quests needed expanding and even the Frenzied Flame probably needed Kale's questline to be fully finished, shame it was cut.
But personally, I don't have a problem with their being a good ending, I just want the other endings to be on the same level of care and time put into them as Ranni's.
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I think Goldmask's quest could have been really fun in theory if you did more puzzles. Like the one in front of the statue is the only one for his quest I can think. Like what if with Goldmask's direction you completely altered how you look at certain areas or how you interpret certain things. Like say you go to this one rock face in Altus and if you look at it at just the right angle you realize it's actually a portrait of Radagon or something.

They also missed an opportunity to say something about intelligence and faith, if your intelligence is high enough you realize Marika is Radagon, but suppose if your faith was too high it was impossible? Or if your faith was high enough you could literally perform miracles like walking on air to solve a puzzle(a la Last Crusade). I really really like Goldmask as a concept but since he never speaks and dies when he creates his rune we never get much characterization out of him.
 
Gondolindrim said:
Speaking of Reddit, how are the Radahn fans responding to their hecking wholesome warlord taking over the plot of the DLC? Personally, I'm not happy about it.
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Considering it's all bullshit DBZ grade "Radahn was only using 5% of his true power in his original boss fight", they are probably overjoyed.

Dave. said:
It just kind of irked me when I got it because every other ending has this really dark and nihilistic theme that the gods always win. You are either subservient to them or salting the earth either out of rage or rebelliousness (Frenzy Flame ending/Loathsome Dung Eater), but you're not "defeating" the golden order, the golden order can just declare you a lost cause and move on to something else. Ranni just throws that shit out the window and says "No actually, you can defeat them! You have a chance to! You just have to bone this chick!" I know technically you don't in this ending, but a lot of people speculate that you do and it just gives me Yes Man vibes from Fallout New Vegas. Another asspull "perfect" ending where you can basically break all the rules and somehow everything turns out okay in the end.
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Out of all the plot lines it really reels like Blue chick was the only one that had any real investment and the game really pushes you to do hers. Every other ending is either easily missable or barely adds any areas.
Leeroy said:
I can't believe that they actually make a gank fight one of the best in the entire game
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If the DLC finished on that fight it would have been a fantastic way to end it rather than yet another over designed boss.

Though in my case I haven't done any of the quests because absolutely fuck Elden Ring way of doing sidequests. At this point I'd rather have a Ubisoft quest marker than need to use an online guide that will spoil me on shit.
 
I just now found the Cerulean Coast. I've been stuck in a rut for two days trying to figure out how to find a route besides the Shadow Keep since I'm clearly missing half the DLC by going straight for Messmer.
 
YumeNoHero said:
You know what, for all the flaws Armored Core has, at least it has much better and fair challenge than whatever the fuck FromSoft has been doing with Elden Ring.
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No. Armored Core VI is just as terrible as this DLC.

Stop pretending this is not the case. I bet in 2 years you'll be talking about how awesome Shadow of the Shittree actually was.
 
Raging Capybara said:
Minor Erdtree is the worst spell in the entire series (worse than seek guidance) but still requires 70 faith.

Beautiful balancing.
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It has it's uses. The holy bolts are homing and have really long range, so you can use it to spam at a boss from far across an arena.
 
Gondolindrim said:
Speaking of Reddit, how are the Radahn fans responding to their hecking wholesome warlord taking over the plot of the DLC? Personally, I'm not happy about it.
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The main complaints I've seen from redditniggers is that you are forced to kill the incestuous gay couple, instead of joining their polycule
 
Dave. said:
It just kind of irked me when I got it because every other ending has this really dark and nihilistic theme that the gods always win. You are either subservient to them or salting the earth either out of rage or rebelliousness (Frenzy Flame ending/Loathsome Dung Eater), but you're not "defeating" the golden order, the golden order can just declare you a lost cause and move on to something else. Ranni just throws that shit out the window and says "No actually, you can defeat them! You have a chance to! You just have to bone this chick!" I know technically you don't in this ending, but a lot of people speculate that you do and it just gives me Yes Man vibes from Fallout New Vegas. Another asspull "perfect" ending where you can basically break all the rules and somehow everything turns out okay in the end.
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The endings due to Goldmask and Fia's great runes I'd say aren't dark. With Goldmask you remove the influence of the gods and with Fia the undead gain equal rights, so to speak. Though I hate that bitch for killing D so to hell with that corpse fucker.

I really wouldn't say everything turns out okay in Ranni's ending. At best it's a lateral move for the Lands Between.
 
Incredible Mister said:
The main complaints I've seen from redditniggers is that you are forced to kill the incestuous gay couple, instead of joining their polycule
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Yeah that'd be their favorite potential ending/demigod alright. Forced to love femboy god, who is controlling you for the greater good to where you don't have the will or capacity to do Wrong Things. Me, I'd rather get the Dung Eater ending. Or if you're talking joining characters who can't be joined, Mohg's faction. They might be violent cultists but looking at Ansbach vs Varre there's some implication they only became degenerates because of Miquella's influence on Mohg. Many such cases!
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I don't get how how, if the Greater Will is fake then what are the sparkles that show us the way?
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Grace is bestowed by Marika, not the GW.
HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
don’t know what the fuck Radagon is supposed to be is he Marika’s sense of being a bootlicking faggot?
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I always had the assumption he was an alternate being foisted upon her by the GW because her coochie kept producing omens and fucked up kids, whereas Radagon managed to produce Ranni who the GW wanted to take over.

From what you can glean Radagon and Marika did not get along at all despite sharing a body. I haven't looked into it though.
Coldgrip said:
They should of had a Turtle Pope ending.
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Goldmask is pretty close. Based Age of Order is a good ending and I haven't seen any compelling arguments otherwise.
Lizard Machine Bugs said:
think Marika was actually working with the Two Fingers, Ranni, Rykard, and the Nox when they plotted to kill Godwin
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I have mixed feelings on her involvement with killing Godwyn. He was her one and only golden child. A perfect son. I do think she always had contingencies in place in the form of the Tarnished to ensure she could fight back against the GW but she was clearly quite vexxed about having freak babies over and over. I find it unlikely she would have cast away her one good son so frivolously.

Ranni always claims direct responsibility for killing Godwyn and never at any point mentions or implies Marika's involvement from what I can remember, which leads me to believe it was a plan of her own making.

Hard to say for sure though.
 
@Mega Black

Goldmask is Radagon RC Cola edition. His fix is letting the Fingers back into the control room, he gives them admin privileges basically and the Fingers are literally making shit up. He doesn’t understand that Marika caught on to the bullshit she smashed the ring in realization that the Fingers don’t have a clue.

He doesn’t realize that no one’s at the wheel. The Elden Beast and Fingers are operating on old instructions and Goldmask is unaware of the bigger issue.

Marika’s dialogue through Melina is her having a back up plan should no one usurp the Fingers. She calls Radagon a bootlicking faggot, tells him they are going to become shattered, and that Godfrey is going to come back because he was her main back up plan.

Godwyn was likely to be Ranni’s consort. Hence why he had to be killed beyond being a scalie (that’s why he has a mermaid tail, they killed him mid yif session).
 
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