Eliezer Schlomo Yudkowsky / LessWrong

[KID NAMED SCHWARMAPUNK]

AI is back in the news/is probably the least winter-y since at least the 1980s. Eliezer got Time to publish his datacenter bombing manifesto, and a journo asked about it at the White House, etc.

What're these 'winters' I hear abt sometimes?
Also, Lil'yuddy is Tedposting now? Damn...

 

[Vecr]

What're these 'winters' I hear abt sometimes?

Basically times where AI hype/funding goes down either due to disappointing progress, or things that people used to call AI are not longer called AI.

Also, Lil'yuddy is Tedposting now? Damn...

Someone needs to ask him what country is responsible for bombing Israeli data centers.

 

[Markass the Worst]

AI is back in the news/is probably the least winter-y since at least the 1980s. Eliezer got Time to publish his datacenter bombing manifesto, and a journo asked about it at the White House, etc.

In general, the rats have recently gotten a bigger spotlight shown on them after Effective autism Altruism hit the mainstream and subseqently got attacked for harboring sexual harassment and predators, while also not being very effective at altruism. Another rat/EA known as Aella even got her own thread here too.

In other words after several years and a decade or so of grifting, playing the numbers game, the rats have finally managed to make (some) people take them seriously.

 

[demicolon]

There's already a biological AI called "human" and you can train it to do various tricks. You can even make one yourself!

 

[Markass the Worst]

One of Schlomo's fellow researchers at MIRI, Katja Grace, has posted a dating resume on Twitter, which has spread far enough that someone made an unrelated thread here to talk about it:

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/katja-graces-dating-resume.162955/

 

[AnOminous]

AI is back in the news/is probably the least winter-y since at least the 1980s. Eliezer got Time to publish his datacenter bombing manifesto, and a journo asked about it at the White House, etc.

Any time they need an hysterical retard to spread panic about basic technological advances, they drag out this Ashkenazi Jew to spew a bunch of bullshit.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Courtesy of Sneer Club, here's Schlomo bragging about his SAT scores in the autobiography he wrote when he was 20 years old.

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But now I must share milk from Sneer Club itself, because they always keep handwringing over MUH RACISM:

Microsoft's definition of intelligence is racist:

The jannies were definitely delete happy, including deleting a comments from a person of colour:

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The biggest problem with AI is that it's racist:




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NYT shouldn't have platformed Nick Bostrom because he's racist:

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And for something a little different, anybody who hates faggots and the gay agenda being shoved down their throats is part of a "carefully orchestrated, nationwide campaign" and are "malicious and organized and funded" (bonus MUH ANTI-SEMITISM):


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[Dambusters' Dog II]

That's a problem with some of the "foom" (made up word for an AI making a better AI) arguments some people bring up

Foom was sperg slang for "boom" in the mid-naughties. That is to say, people would just say "Foom!" instead of "Boom!" and thought this was hilarious for some reason. So Eliezer & co. were originally just calling it a boom using slang, then this "joke" got fossilised into their cult jargon.

Anyway, I used to think that Roger Penrose's argument that "computers can't be intelligent because of Goedel's theorem" was dumb, but popular with certain people, because it's superficially convincing. But "ChatGPT is intelligent because it can do a self-referential 4chan greentext" is a lot dumber. The annoying thing is that the public discourse has formed two sides, which are "ChatGPT is intelligent and we need to stop AI research because of Skynet (and give me all your money)" and "ChatGPT is intelligent but it won't become Skynet, AI will revolutionise society with no downside whatsoever". There isn't really any sincere or effective attempt to understand how it works or to explain to the public how these things work in general. Yudkowsky only pays lip-service to this idea in the Fridman podcast by suggesting that we put a lot of string theorists on it (like that'd do any good), and gave an obviously evasive answer when asked about consciousness.

NYT shouldn't have platformed Nick Bostrom because he's racist:

This started because someone found that Nick Bostrom had said the nigger word on some old mailing list (archive of the pdf in attachments). Does he have an account here, I wonder?

 

[George Floyd]

Lol, the stupid reddit nigger thinks he should knock a couple of points off his score because whites are better at SATs on average. "Adjusted for race". I want his faggot reddit face get "adjusted for race".

 

[AnOminous]

Courtesy of Sneer Club, here's Schlomo bragging about his SAT scores in the autobiography he wrote when he was 20 years old.

So he's basically probably high IQ enough to join Mensa (top 2% of the population), but there are millions of people in that range. He's not getting into shit like the Triple Nine Society much less Mega. Not that that's a huge problem by itself because it seems like most of the high-IQ societies get more autistic and nonfunctional as the measured IQ goes up.

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

So he's basically probably high IQ enough to join Mensa (top 2% of the population), but there are millions of people in that range. He's not getting into shit like the Triple Nine Society much less Mega. Not that that's a huge problem by itself because it seems like most of the high-IQ societies get more autistic and nonfunctional as the measured IQ goes up.

Didn't the head of one of those super-high IQ societies sue the producers of "Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader" and try to rules lawyer them over losing at the game?

I once had a boss who was almost certainly in that rarified IQ category. He was a double-double back in the 70s when that meant something (perfect SAT and ACT scores), had three doctorates and twice as many Master's. He was obviously brilliant... And simultaneously one of the biggest dumbasses I've ever had the mispleasure of working with.

Mostly it boiled down to shit like "I know more about the composition of soils than 99.9999% of the world, I know how to program complicated modeling software, certainly I can operate a backhoe and do trenching without any problems!"

Y'all can already guess what happened, right? Over and over again, sometimes even with shit normal people can figure out, like unjamming a printer. It's like the guy was brilliant and functionally retarded at the same time, because he never ever learned from it. It was like "Dude, you have nearly 100 employees, and multiple contractors you can use for this shit. Stay in the office and manage projects and run analysis. Don't touch anything else."

I figure the guy would have been as useless as any high-IQ fetishist if his autism hadn't led him into a very lucrative and important field of intersecting interests.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Incoming milk: Schlomo gave a TED Talk and everybody clapped (no, really).

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I don't know why he's so hopeful. TED Talks are the lowest of lows when it comes to legitimate information. They'll accept basically any charlatan who's even halfway charismatic. It means nothing if the TED audience accepts whatever drivel came out of his mouth.
Can't wait until it's published online.

 

[AnOminous]

I don't know why he's so hopeful. TED Talks are the lowest of lows when it comes to legitimate information. They'll accept basically any charlatan who's even halfway charismatic. It means nothing if the TED audience accepts whatever drivel came out of his mouth.

He was probably doing his usual deranged rambling about AI and since TED is now just a hive of bugmen, they would obviously clap and bark like retarded seals.

 

[George Floyd]

They also all sucked his dick. Honest. Footage is coming, not sure when, but it might be way after you've all forgotten about this tweet.

 

[AnOminous]

They also all sucked his dick. Honest. Footage is coming, not sure when, but it might be way after you've all forgotten about this tweet.

It's fucking embarrassing that anyone seriously uses this clown as an "expert" on a subject where he has no academic qualifications and has done no meaningful work in the field whatsoever. I'm as much an expert as he is. And I'm not an expert.

 

[Alfred MacDonald]

So he's basically probably high IQ enough to join Mensa (top 2% of the population), but there are millions of people in that range. He's not getting into shit like the Triple Nine Society much less Mega. Not that that's a huge problem by itself because it seems like most of the high-IQ societies get more autistic and nonfunctional as the measured IQ goes up.

if you know about mega this tells me you're pretty clued in to this whole world and I can say you're basically correct about this

you probably already know this but I'm just mentioning for people who aren't familiar with this oddity of society: almost no one gets their IQ tested as adults unless they are suspected of having some kind of brain dysfunction or their therapist thinks it's a good idea. I had a friend who gave out IQ tests as part of her job and an enormous amount (if not a majority) were suspected dementia cases. so when people give you "their IQ" it's usually childhood IQ, and a lot of people from well-off backgrounds have their IQ tested as children and get inflated scores from having professors / doctors / etc as parents, and they take that to be their IQ for life — but if they have their IQ retested as adults it's usually considerably lower.

plus as I'm sure you know a full WAIS is very expensive, so very few people take it for fun or whatever.

I'd be really interested in knowing what eliezer would score on an LSAT, because he strikes me as the kind of impatient reader who would get wrecked by that style of test. I think on some gut level he knows this though, and will never do it for that reason.

 

[Dambusters' Dog II]

I once had a boss who was almost certainly in that rarified IQ category. He was a double-double back in the 70s when that meant something (perfect SAT and ACT scores), had three doctorates and twice as many Master's.

Since it's not been mentioned, I should say that having more than one doctorate is not something that is supposed to happen. The best possible interpretation is that someone wasted a bunch of years of their life in the wrong field, but then found the right one and did things over again. But what I would expect is someone who only knows how to be a student and can't adjust to managing their own life and career, so goes back to being a student again and again.

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

Since it's not been mentioned, I should say that having more than one doctorate is not something that is supposed to happen. The best possible interpretation is that someone wasted a bunch of years of their life in the wrong field, but then found the right one and did things over again. But what I would expect is someone who only knows how to be a student and can't adjust to managing their own life and career, so goes back to being a student again and again.

That's pretty much the case, kinda.

The guy was a full time student well into his mid-40s. Technically he's ABD in one of those Ph.Ds, but the dissertation was fully written years ago and he always talked about going and doing the defense of it. Hell, they probably denied him the defense for the reasons you stated.

I talk shit about the guy because he was an arrogant stubborn abrasive autistic mofo who avoided showering and constantly fucked up shit he shouldn't have tried doing, but I'm not going to deny he was astoundingly intelligent and had an amazing work ethic (he worked his way up the company we were at all the while he was in full-time grad school for two decades, and his comp sci Master's was solely so he could create software applied to the scientific field of his main interests). He'd probably be famous if he was autistic about anything sexier than the physical properties of dirt and rocks, that said, he would probably make the worst professor to have over you in grad school, or as a teacher for undergrad. Still, it was a real experience being an office tard-wrangler for someone who was way the hell smarter and harder working than me, gave me some chops for the actual tard-wrangling of nutters and meth-heads that's my profession now.

 

[Ashkenazi Porn Actress]

In other news, Roko thinks the existence of BIG COMPUTAH makes communism possible:


"Rationalism" evidently means ignoring all prior intellectual debates and Dunning-Krugering your way through life while loudly declaring that everybody who shakes their heads at you hobo-at-the-bus-stop-pissed-himself-and-talks-to-the-sign tier takes "just doesn't get it".

 

[quackrock]

In other news, Roko thinks the existence of BIG COMPUTAH makes communism possible:

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"Rationalism" evidently means ignoring all prior intellectual debates and Dunning-Krugering your way through life while loudly declaring that everybody who shakes their heads at you hobo-at-the-bus-stop-pissed-himself-and-talks-to-the-sign tier takes "just doesn't get it".

Centrally-planned economies can't determine prices, but Roko's big computer can do it guys, for real this time. Never mind that the inputs it would need are by definition impossible to obtain in a central planning system.

This is, worryingly, an increasingly popular view. Jack Ma thinks it can be done, or so he says, if we assume he isn't sucking off Marx to appease the CCP. The ivory-tour journscum and "union researcher" who wrote People's Republic of Wal-Mart think it's possible too, but their argument falls apart under casual scrutiny.