Elliot Page / Ellen Page - Former actress, starred in Juno. Turned into a pooner and divorced her wife because being a lesbian was not boosting her career anymore. Receives a daily dose of asspatting from Hollywood. Likes to show off her "male" body using fake abdominals.

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Procrastinhater said:
The comments for the Time magazine video are quite telling, despite the astroturfing Time and YouTube do.
Seems most people are sick of the Cults narrative and aren't buying it anymore.
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With Page, the big difference is that she’s been in the public eye for most of her life. People can see that there has never been anything masculine about her, and that she does not appear comfortable with her new identity.

I think also there’s a parasocial element to it. People feel, rightly or wrongly, a sense of attachment to celebrities. So when one of them says “Actually you’ve always been wrong, I’ve always been this person instead,” their fans feel kind of betrayed. I don’t think it’s healthy, but I think that is how a lot of people think.

(Also not healthy: cutting your tits off in lieu of therapy)
 
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Tragi-Chan said:
their fans feel kind of betrayed
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I have the belief that the majority of her 'fans' now aren't at all her previous fans. All of those seem to have disappeared almost completely.
She's gone from a bunch of GenX/Millennial fans who genuinely love her work to a bunch of woke zoomers who just like her so they can to push an agenda.

I wonder if watching her past work is encouraged or discouraged? Surely it's wrong to watch 'him' act as a woman to these people? You'd think past media would get the deadname treatment but I guess it's okay because money.
 
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Tragi-Chan said:
With Page, the big difference is that she’s been in the public eye for most of her life. People can see that there has never been anything masculine about her, and that she does not appear comfortable with her new identity.

I think also there’s a parasocial element to it. People feel, rightly or wrongly, a sense of attachment to celebrities. So when one of them says “Actually you’ve always been wrong, I’ve always been this person instead,” their fans feel kind of betrayed. I don’t think it’s healthy, but I think that is how a lot of people think.

(Also not healthy: cutting your tits off in lieu of therapy)
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I think another thing is Page refutes the whole "Trans kids will commit suicide if they dont get their HRT and surgeries!".It took her until she was 33 to come out and say"Oh btw I'm actually trans this whole time."Now whenever a TRA brings up trans kids will kill themselves if they dont get what they want, people can point and go "What about Elliot Page?She didn't kill herself when she was a teen.If its that bad then why didn't she kill herself when she was young?" Literally everything about Ellen's transitioning is very bizarre.
 
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Tragon Dirtle said:
Linda does sound like a massive bitch though. All the adults are just so pathetic, she had no role models to not turn out a wet blanket herself.
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I doubt much of what Ellen described actually happens. For a few reasons.
1. Linda comes off as a cartoonish villain. In fact, most of the people she complains about in the book do.
2. Ellen remembers the most random of things in such detail I believe is impossible. Do you remember what clothes you wore when you had dinner with a random person when you were 16? Because Ellen seems to. Do you remember the exact words your meanie parents said to you when they yelled at you after some bs you did as a teen? Because Ellen does, verbatim. It's all suspect and bullshit.
3. Ellen obviously hates women. She hates Linda, and she even hates her mom. Except she knows she is not supposed to hate her mom, so she adds random lines about how she pities her and how her mom was dumb or whatever. But it all just comes off as poorly disguised hate.
 
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Pig Cups said:
More like an A380.

I’ll never forget the massive fivehead she sported during the infamous Colbert interview, where she cried about MAGA and proclaimed Juicy Smooyay to have been totally hatecrimed guiyz!!
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I wonder if she tugs on her bangs/face framing hair, like a nervous habit or something. Its really uniform though, but almost looks like over the years the hair in front gets more damaged and thin/receding. Otherwise, I am shocked no stylist gave her side swept bangs
 
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Terfmaster9000 said:
2. Ellen remembers the most random of things in such detail I believe is impossible. Do you remember what clothes you wore when you had dinner with a random person when you were 16? Because Ellen seems to. Do you remember the exact words your meanie parents said to you when they yelled at you after some bs you did as a teen? Because Ellen does, verbatim. It's all suspect and bullshit.
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I mean, that might just be the act of filling in small details when writing a memoir to improve the flow of the narrative, I don't think that's that uncommon when writing something autobiographical. Most people don't have perfect/photographic memories even of important events.
 
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Clutter said:
Women can fuck up their hairlines if they frequently put their hair up very tightly. Just look at the hairlines of girls and women who play(ed) a lot of sports and you'll start seeing it.
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Jojo Siwa probably the best famous example of this. She was complaining about hairloss by 12.
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Tragi-Chan said:
With Page, the big difference is that she’s been in the public eye for most of her life. People can see that there has never been anything masculine about her, and that she does not appear comfortable with her new identity.
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She did have a more masculine phase but it didn't seem to last very long. It's probably now seen as proof that she was always trans.
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Terfmaster9000 said:
I doubt much of what Ellen described actually happens. For a few reasons.
1. Linda comes off as a cartoonish villain. In fact, most of the people she complains about in the book do.
2. Ellen remembers the most random of things in such detail I believe is impossible. Do you remember what clothes you wore when you had dinner with a random person when you were 16? Because Ellen seems to. Do you remember the exact words your meanie parents said to you when they yelled at you after some bs you did as a teen? Because Ellen does, verbatim. It's all suspect and bullshit.
3. Ellen obviously hates women. She hates Linda, and she even hates her mom. Except she knows she is not supposed to hate her mom, so she adds random lines about how she pities her and how her mom was dumb or whatever. But it all just comes off as poorly disguised hate.
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That's what Cluster B personality disorders do to a brain. The afflicted lack the required empathy and theory of mind to see other people as anything but NPCs. Cluster Bs are also extremely unable to experience anything that's not black and white. People come off as villains because that's literally how Ellen perceives them - not as normal persons who probably said something mildly displeasing once, but as NPCs with no agenda but to hurt and insult our Mary Sue Pageboy. Other people only exist in a context of being beneficial to a Cluster B's feels, or they're the antichrist. All of them.
 
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That's what Cluster B personality disorders do to a brain. The afflicted lack the required empathy and theory of mind to see other people as anything but NPCs. Cluster Bs are also extremely unable to experience anything that's not black and white. People come off as villains because that's literally how Ellen perceives them - not as normal persons who probably said something mildly displeasing once, but as NPCs with no agenda but to hurt and insult our Mary Sue Pageboy. Other people only exist in a context of being beneficial to a Cluster B's feels, or they're the antichrist. All of them.
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You knew my first wife huh?
 
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