US Elon Musk appears to perform fascist salute at inauguration event

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Elon Musk gestures as he speaks during the inaugural parade inside Capitol One Arena in Washington, on January 20, 2025. (Angela Weiss/AFP)
"Tech billionaire Elon Musk appears to give a pair of fascist salutes while addressing an inauguration event for supporters of US President Donald Trump.

While speaking on stage at the Capitol One Arena in Washington, Musk puts his hand on his chest before extending his arm in a salute."
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CBS 58 weather reporter Sam Kuffel is out after criticizing Elon Musk arm gesture
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (archive.ph)
By Daniel Bice and Mary Spicuzza
2025-01-22 23:55:17GMT
A Milwaukee TV weather forecaster has been dropped by her station one day after she criticized Elon Musk on social media for his straight-arm gesture that many have likened to a Nazi salute.

Staffers at WDJT-TV (Channel 58) were alerted by email on Wednesday that meteorologist Sam Kuffel had left the station. Her biography and picture had been removed from Channel 58 website by Wednesday afternoon.

"Meteorologist Sam Kuffel is no longer employed at CBS58," said the staff memo from news director Jessie Garcia that was obtained by the Journal Sentinel. "A search for a replacement is underway."

A spokeswoman for Weigel Broadcasting Co. confirmed via email late Wednesday that Kuffel was no longer with Channel 58. But the spokeswoman said she couldn't comment further because this was a personnel issue.

On Tuesday, conservative radio host Dan O'Donnell sharply criticized Kuffel for her two Instagram posts, accusing her of "spreading the lie that Elon Musk was giving a Nazi salute" during the presidential inauguration. He labeled her posts "vulgar."

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Kuffel, 31, could not be reached by email, text or phone on Wednesday.

According to her LinkedIn page, Kuffel joined Channel 58 more than five years ago. She previously worked at WAOW-TV (Channel 9) in Wausau after graduating from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee in 2016.

The popular local weather forecaster was also a regular on the all sports radio station WRNW-FM (97.3).

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On Tuesday, she made two Instagram posts about Musk's gesture during a speech at a President Donald Trump inauguration event on Monday.

The Anti-Defamation League, an antisemitism and human rights watchdog, called it an “awkward gesture” and urged caution in jumping to conclusions. Other extremism monitors and experts pointed out it was unclear what Musk was trying to convey to the crowd of Trump’s supporters by thrusting his arm out.

Musk, the Tesla CEO and world’s richest man, has only fanned the flames of suspicion by not explicitly denying those claims in a dozen posts since, though he did make light of the criticism and lashed out at people suggesting he made a Sieg Heil salute.

In one post on her personal Instagram account, Kuffel posted a picture of Musk at the podium, saying, "Dude Nazi saluted twice. TWICE. During the inauguration."

She added, "You (expletive) with this and this man, I don't (expletive) with you. Full stop."

Kuffel then posted a GIF from "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" on Instagram along with the saying, "Screw that old (expletive). He's a Nazi."

By late Tuesday, she had made her Instagram account private.

On the same day, Kuffel was quoted in a CNN story on the loss of local weather forecasters at TV stations around the country.

"Local meteorologists are essential to local news,” Kuffel wrote on X about sweeping layoffs of meteorologists around the country. “Communities will suffer during major, local weather events because of this decision."
 
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The mere fact that almost all of the Northern Hemisphere is acting collectively deranged over a hand gesture of a guy who is not even that interesting or funny, is a dead giveaway of how deeply dysfunctional and unserious the West is.
 
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You know, if there's one thing both political parties have in common—

They tend to like blowing things out of proportion to glaze their side up as much as possible.

Only difference is that leftists get away with it far more than right-wingers. They'll misinterpret anything they see to larp around the "Nazi" label. Now that Trump's in office, they'll be able to use it more annoyingly than ever before.

And look, they can get away with it! No arrests, no punishments, no censorship.

I thought Democracy was dead and we were all going into a so-called Authoritarian dictatorship?
 
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Okay, I know I'm late to the party, give me all the clocks, but I only just watched this video of Elon Musk. I've heard about him doing a Nazi salute,but I assumed he just made some movement that looks like it without thinking or something and it's all bs, because for god sake, why would Elon Musk do something like that, it's ridiculous. Anyway, I finally got curious enough to watch it. I couldn't believe my eyes.

It doesn't resemble anything like Nazi salute. Not even close. I'm sorry, but just how fucking stupid people are, or perhaps just so ignorant they never watched a single documentary or a movie about Nazi Germany to know what a Nazi salute looks like. It doesn't resemble it at all. You don't put your hand on your heart in Nazi salute. For heaven's sake, not evey raise of the hand with open palm is a Nazi salute.

But you know, so many people said so, and they are all so sure, I had to make sure I'm not tripping or anything, am I remembering it right? So I went and searched a documentary with Nazis in it, and yep, I remembered it right. And it looks nothing like what Elon Musk did. People are fucking crazy.
 
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Elon Musk had lost a lot of favor with the right, so the media decided they needed to increase his coolness factor a bit
 
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BlewberryNausea said:
Now I’m not saying Elon is a Nazi but it does look like something Hitler did once.
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Since his hand and arm and gesture were wrong for a standard salute people are cherrypicking videos of others doing it different nonstandard ways (that still match what dems were caught in more) as if Musk was up in the middle of the night practicing different variations of nonNazi salute salutes trying to decide which are enough to work as code for his followers but fool everyone else.
 
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BlewberryNausea said:
Now I’m not saying Elon is a Nazi but it does look like something Hitler did once.
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It really doesn't though. Look, maybe it's because I watched a lot of documentaries and movies about Naxi Germany in the past, but the moment I saw it I could tell you right away this isn't it, at all, doesn't even look close, and I can't believe people claim it is a Nazi salute.

For one thing, the Nazi salute comes from the shoulder, not the heart. It might sounds like a small difference, but it a very huge and clear difference. The distance between the heart and the shoulder is close to the distance between the shoulder and the chin, for example, but you wouldn't think it looks like a Nazi salute if he raised his hand like that from his chin. Putting a hand on the heart has a certain meaning, very different one than what the Nazi salute conveys. The facial expression also really doesn't fit, and the way he moved his whole body with the movement of his arm - the Nazi salute is done as you stand straight as an arrow.

Trust me dude if you watched enough of these documentaries (or just a few clips of Nazis doing the Nazi salute), you would be able to tell right away. It doesn't even need context, you can tell right away just by looking at it that this is not it and people are barking mad.
 
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It really doesn't though. Look, maybe it's because I watched a lot of documentaries and movies about Naxi Germany in the past, but the moment I saw it I could tell you right away this isn't it, at all, doesn't even look close, and I can't believe people claim it is a Nazi salute.

For one thing, the Nazi salute comes from the shoulder, not the heart. It might sounds like a small difference, but it a very huge and clear difference. The distance between the heart and the shoulder is close to the distance between the shoulder and the chin, for example, but you wouldn't think it looks like a Nazi salute if he raised his hand like that from his chin. Putting a hand on the heart has a certain meaning, very different one than what the Nazi salute conveys. The facial expression also really doesn't fit, and the way he moved his whole body with the movement of his arm and hand - the Nazi salute is done as you stand straight as an arrow.

Trust me dude if you watched enough of these documentaries (or just a few clips of Nazis doing the Nazi salute), you would be able to tell right away. It doesn't even need context, you can tell right away just by looking at it that this is not it and people are barking mad.
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I dunno dude Musk knows how to do a heart gesture without Sieg Heiling so why did he do it so weird on Inauguration Day?
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Honestly it doesn’t really matter to me if he meant it that way or not it’s just funny to see autistic sperging about an autistic sperging.
 
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BlewberryNausea said:
I dunno dude Musk knows how to do a heart gesture without Sieg Heiling so why did he do it so weird on Inauguration Day?
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All I can say is that I recognized right away this isn't it. I seriously thought he made a gesture that resembles it more by mistake, and was very surprised to see this is what he had done. That's what so many people are making so much noise about?

I know, I know, I shouldn't be surprised by the reaction, by this making a big deal out of nothing, but I still am somehow.
 
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This feels so elementary-school tier. Like "ERMMM TEACHER!!! ELON DID A NAZI SALUTE!!!! NOO YOU WEREN'T JUST LIFTING YOUR ARM TO ASK A QUESTION, YOU WERE DOING A NAZI SALUTE AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA BE IN SOOOO MUCH TROUBLE!!!"

The same people sperging about Elon are 99.9% the same people who cock-gobbled Ukraine and its literal neo-nazis.

I'm just tired of all the fucking histrionics. They sucked Tesla's dick until Elon opposed the lockdowns from the very start, which began the unpersoning and neverending whinging about him from their side.
 
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All I can say is that I recognized right away this isn't it. I seriously thought he made a gesture that resembles it more by mistake, and was very surprised to see this is what he had done. That's what so many people are making so much noise about?

I know, I know, I shouldn't be surprised by the reaction, by this making a big deal out of nothing, but I still am somehow.
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That isn't what he did this time. The heart gesture was on a previous occasion:
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It's different, he didn't try to use both hands like he did before. Even though he had a microphone before, so he doesn't have an excuse. What's your other hand doing, Elon?

If the pictures look different from what you've seen, he didn't just do it once.
 

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It's like, we are all forced to pick if we live in Universe A where Elon Musk did a weird arm wave and Universe B where he thought it would be a good idea to come out fully as a Nazi even though that has zero benefits for him of any kind at all and since he is denying it he took it back immediately anyway so why do it in the first place? Believing this is a nazi salute demands he be stupid and evil on a comic book level. It's Captain Planet villain "I just love polluting because I'm a dick!" level thinking. He and Trump are pretty obviously not about to go around genociding jews so why would he decide to come out as Nazi and not want to kill the jews when that is their entire fucking deal?

It's so fucking tiresome. It's just lobbing shit at the wall to see what might hurt an enemy but the level of instant commitment they are going to on Reddit to the idea that only another Nazi could think he is NOT a nazi is shocking. Trump won the popular vote. The majority of the country is pretty okay with Elon Musk having some political influence based on that popular vote win. So what is Reddit going to do, just ban the majority of the population because they don't agree on what a hand gesture means? This is supposed to be a money making business, right?
 
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It really doesn't though. Look, maybe it's because I watched a lot of documentaries and movies about Naxi Germany in the past, but the moment I saw it I could tell you right away this isn't it, at all, doesn't even look close, and I can't believe people claim it is a Nazi salute.

For one thing, the Nazi salute comes from the shoulder, not the heart. It might sounds like a small difference, but it a very huge and clear difference. The distance between the heart and the shoulder is close to the distance between the shoulder and the chin, for example, but you wouldn't think it looks like a Nazi salute if he raised his hand like that from his chin. Putting a hand on the heart has a certain meaning, very different one than what the Nazi salute conveys. The facial expression also really doesn't fit, and the way he moved his whole body with the movement of his arm - the Nazi salute is done as you stand straight as an arrow.

Trust me dude if you watched enough of these documentaries (or just a few clips of Nazis doing the Nazi salute), you would be able to tell right away. It doesn't even need context, you can tell right away just by looking at it that this is not it and people are barking mad.
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The most common form is to raise your hand right in front of you and hold in there in a 45 angle to the ground fashion. You *can* like the redditors have been doing dig around and find examples of neonazis and historical nazis making all sorts of other gestures and final hand positions that anyone can easily inadvertently make, but that just goes to show how dumb it is to say any one gesture on its own is a nazi salute.

The most common element if you can even describe it as such in a gesture which is so ill defined and variable is the outstretched hand in front of the person at a small angle to the ground which musk didn't do.
 
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