LGBT [Email] The Piercing and Bisexuality

[P-Logic]

I honestly don't have an answer for you at this time. Perhaps pride? Maybe I was deluded enough to think that somehow I could succeed where other White Knights failed? Maybe I thought that I'd be the person to finally "fix" Chris?

That's a pretty noble motivation, but why wouldn't you simply be his friend rather than a troll? You're a woman, so there would be no need for you to assume a false identity. You could simply be yourself and Chris would have been very receptive to your friendship.

I think that having a good friend would have a better chance of "fixing" Chris than someone who constructs a big fantasy for him to live in.

Maybe now you should consider becoming Chris's actual friend, for real. If a character you created was the best friend he ever had, then why don't you just ditch the character and be his actual friend? That is assuming you genuinely do care about him.

 

[Null]

Chris doesn't let people into his life unless he knows them already, or they're potential love interests. I also wouldn't encourage anyone to talk to Chis without using a false identity (see what happened to the eBay buyers). It's very difficult to just be a friend with Chris, and definitely more difficult than just being a fake galpal or girlfriend.

 

[JustSomeFella]

I'd love to find out who convinced him to make the "I Love You, Catherine" video. While TheTan seems to have her heart in the right place here, I'd venture that the person who pushed him to make that video was doing this for "content" and not to help Chris.

 

[Null]

Nobody asked him to make a video. That's a good point, though. I'll probably release the context to that.

Essentially, the idea was that the relationship with Catherine would be open. What she put forward was a situation where Chris would be in a relationship with a woman who had other relationships with other men at the same time. On the first hurdle of this, Catherine's "man of the hour" (as he said in the video) was Colin, a well-off gentleman in New York. Chris flipped and started demanding answers. When reminded that it was an open relationship, she asked for an apology, and Chris (on his own) made a video.

 

[Thetan]

That's a pretty noble motivation, but why wouldn't you simply be his friend rather than a troll? You're a woman, so there would be no need for you to assume a false identity. You could simply be yourself and Chris would have been very receptive to your friendship.

I think that having a good friend would have a better chance of "fixing" Chris than someone who constructs a big fantasy for him to live in.

Maybe now you should consider becoming Chris's actual friend, for real. If a character you created was the best friend he ever had, then why don't you just ditch the character and be his actual friend? That is assuming you genuinely do care about him.

The main problem with getting involved with Chris IRL is that it tends to come with a lot of baggage. As you know, Chris has a very bad habit of d0xx1ng people, both friend and foe. Honestly, I'd rather not have that kind of attention.

I'm also married and I live several states away, so there's no real chance for any meaningful interaction. Chris is also very demanding of his friend's time. While I may be able to send off the occasional email, I don't have the time to be there for Chris every time he decides to call me to talk about My Little Pony, Lego, or something else I just don't give a shit about. Not trying to be mean here, just honest.

I'm also often busy with work, and I actively volunteer this time of year (food drives, helping cook / serve holiday meals at the soup kitchen). I'm also part of an animal rescue network (just rescued a horse who needs pretty extensive veterinary care) and that keeps me busy as well. Plus, I do have my friends and I try to squeeze in some quality time with my husband. Where would Chris fit into all of this?

If it's a long-distance type of friendship, I honestly don't see a problem with using a fake name (for the aforementioned reasons) since Chris and I are never going to meet IRL. The other trick would be convincing Chris that I wasn't a troll. This is why I impersonated Rebeckah: it's the only way I could get him to listen to me. Anyone else who offered Chris the same advice would have been immediately dismissed as a troll. Getting Chris to trust you is no small feat.

I could email him right now, using my real name, and offer to be Chris's friend. Chris probably wouldn't even open the email, since it would be from someone he doesn't know and, therefore, doesn't trust.

 

[JustSomeFella]

Ah, I see. I shouldn't have made that assumption. I just thought it was a "Mr. Smith" type of thing where Catherine (or her and Chris's mutual acquaintance) told him to make that video.

 

[P-Logic]

I also wouldn't encourage anyone to talk to Chis without using a false identity (see what happened to the eBay buyers).

Point taken.

Essentially, the idea was that the relationship with Catherine would be open. What she put forward was a situation where Chris would be in a relationship with a woman who had other relationships with other men at the same time.

How does this help him?

 

[Null]

How does this help him?

Catherine isn't Thetan.

 

[crash]

I'm happy that someone told Chris to get that thing taken out and see a doctor, regardless of whether he actually did or not. That looks painful as hell and just thinking of him repiercing it with a safety pin makes me want to curl up in a corner and sob softly. I just hope he wasn't just saying he was getting it taken care of to get Rebeckah off his back.

 

[Haesindang Park]

If only we knew what actually made Chris think its a good idea to repierce his taint with a safety pin because even most weens wouldn't tell him that...

 

[P-Logic]

The main problem with getting involved with Chris IRL is that it tends to come with a lot of baggage. As you know, Chris has a very bad habit of d0xx1ng people, both friend and foe. Honestly, I'd rather not have that kind of attention.

I understand. Who would want that? But you could be his friend under a pseudonym, rather than a troll under a false identity.

Plus, I do have my friends and I try to squeeze in some quality time with my husband. Where would Chris fit into all of this?

Presumably into the same space that he has fit in your life up until now. If you have time to send him troll emails from multiple identities, you have time to send him friendly emails from one identity.

Here's an honest question: What do you think your friends, your husband, your colleagues and the people you work with in your volunteer work would think about you doing this? This isn't a threat in any way, so I don't want this to be misconstrued. It's pure curiosity on my part.

 

[Francis York Morgan]

Here's an honest question: What do you think your friends, your husband, your colleagues and the people you work with in your volunteer work would think about you doing this? This isn't a threat in any way, so I don't want this to be misconstrued. It's pure curiosity on my part.

Here's an honest question for you: what are you trying to get at with these rhetorical questions?

 

[P-Logic]

Here's an honest question for you: what are you trying to get at with these rhetorical questions?

It's not a rhetorical question.

 

[Francis York Morgan]

It's not a rhetorical question.

You are structuring the questions to make a point. I just want to know what that point is.

 

[P-Logic]

You are structuring the questions to make a point. I just want to know what that point is.

I'm afraid you've made an incorrect assumption. It was, as I said very clearly in the post, an honest question and pure curiosity on my part.

 

[Haesindang Park]

I'm afraid you've made an incorrect assumption. It was, as I said very clearly in the post, an honest question and pure curiosity on my part.

It wouldn't make much of a difference. Even if Chris's gal-pals spoke to him, he'll still do stupid things such as volunteering to give out a photo of his infected taint piercing and talk about how it looked like a labia! And when they see it, they'll probably leak it out on the Internet anyways. His gal-pals are already freaked out that he's grown up to become a creepy tranny. Remember, no one is forcing Chris to take pictures of himself in dresses and his taint; he did it on his own to prove that he was still TRUE and HONEST like he claims. Too bad, he never heard of the concept of the conversational filter so he always gives out too much information to make himself as interesting as possible.

 

[Null]

Chill, guys. It's an ethical debate about the moral quandaries of trolling spastics. Don't need to be so serious.

To help ease seriousness, I've given P-Logic an avatar. I think his anonymous ? mark thing was spooking people.

 

[Thetan]

If only we knew what actually made Chris think its a good idea to repierce his taint with a safety pin because even most weens wouldn't tell him that...

The piercing was 100% Chris's idea. He wasn't manipulated by me or anyone else

I understand. Who would want that? But you could be his friend under a pseudonym, rather than a troll under a false identity.



Presumably into the same space that he has fit in your life up until now. If you have time to send him troll emails from multiple identities, you have time to send him friendly emails from one identity.

Here's an honest question: What do you think your friends, your husband, your colleagues and the people you work with in your volunteer work would think about you doing this? This isn't a threat in any way, so I don't want this to be misconstrued. It's pure curiosity on my part.

Again, whether nor not I used a pseudonym or my actual name, Chris would most likely not even open my email. The only way I could set this up would be to have my fake gal pal vouch for this person, then go from there (with the fake gal pal being completely out of the picture).

As far as fitting Chris into my life, I don't think you realized how sporadic the emails were. In the case of Rebeckah, the most number of emails exchanged per day was only 2 or 3 followed by gaps of anywhere from days to months. Sometimes there were more intense "bursts" of activity, but these were followed by periods of silence that could go for weeks or months.

Chris is very demanding. He calls or texts "Catherine" multiple times per day. He expects here to tell him everything: where she is, what she's doing etc. I'm just not up for that kind of commitment. I don't have that kind of time to put into him.

As far as what my friends, husband, colleagues etc. would think of what I did, I consider that a rehtorical question. (My husband btw did voice his disapproval - quite often). At face value, it all looks pretty damning; then again, the subject of Chris is a complicated one and I don't really expect people to "get it" or understand my motivations.

I'm ***still*** in the process of examining my motivations, how can I expect those unfamiliar with Chris to understand something that I don't completely understand myself?

Like I said, it's a work in progress.

 

[P-Logic]

As far as fitting Chris into my life, I don't think you realized how sporadic the emails were. In the case of Rebeckah, the most number of emails exchanged per day was only 2 or 3 followed by gaps of anywhere from days to months. Sometimes there were more intense "bursts" of activity, but these were followed by periods of silence that could go for weeks or months.

Sorry, I didn't realise this. I was under the impression that you were one of the main trolls in this new inner circle. It sounds like you had a much more peripheral role than any of us realised.

(My husband btw did voice his disapproval - quite often).

Thanks for answering. I was pretty curious as to how this little hobby played out with your IRL friends and acquaintances.

At face value, it all looks pretty damning.

Yes. It really does.

I'm ***still*** in the process of examining my motivations, how can I expect those unfamiliar with Chris to understand something that I don't completely understand myself?

I doubt anyone in your life will ever understand why you participated in this. Maybe you'll be able to justify it to yourself somehow, but I doubt you'll ever be able to convince anyone else that this was ethical.

 

[Zeorus]

Chill, guys. It's an ethical debate about the moral quandaries of trolling spastics. Don't need to be so serious.

To help ease seriousness, I've given P-Logic an avatar. I think his anonymous ? mark thing was spooking people.

So much for the avatar thing.

Re ethics - I think it's a question that we can't fully answer because our species is still psychologically adapting to this form of communication. The line between what is real and what is fantasy is incredibly blurry over the Internet (at least for me). Would I condone this sort of behavior IRL? Certainly not. Online? Meh.