Encounters With SJWs/Tumblristas Offline or In Unusual Communities

Something along those lines. Either they think the best way to support transgender people is to draw a bunch of male cartoon characters in binders while crying or they're all aceflux demiboys or whatever.



While a lot of advantages that whites and males have in society are the result of the bigoted actions of society in the past, I really don't think it's constructive to hate those people in the present who did nothing to contribute to those institutions. It just creates feelings of guilt, which are counterproductive, or creates bitter racists. No one should have to account for the sins of their fathers.

And yeah, pretty much. There are cases where something in a culture is sacred and it's disrespectful for outsiders to waltz right in and lay claim to it, but most people are pretty eager to share their culture with others. Having an appreciation for other cultures is a cool thing. So long as you're chill and not disrespectful, you're pretty good.

I agree, the problem is sadly history and cultural norms a lot of SJW's don't realise how free the west is in comparison to well any ware else you can imagine really.

There is a documentary I would like to show them how lucky they are called "It's a Girl, the three most deadly words in history" as it's really common in Africa, the Middle East an Asia for baby girls to be aborted or left out to die because young boy's are more highly prized for the future income they will bring and be able to pay for the parents as they grow older an can't work. Sadly this has made women a sought after commodity in some parts of the world 10 men to 1 woman and that young woman has no say what so ever in whom she choses to Marry her father does and it's always for financial or political gain.

That's why I don't get the gender bending politics and fantasy's they have, they are extraordinary lucky to be born today, be educated an have freedom they are the most liberated women in history and are so dense they don't even realise it.
 
My sister is actually unfortunately big into the whole stupid scene. Big fan of Doctor Who and Sherlock...she refers to herself on her tumblr as a "self proclaimed Anglophile," but fortunately doesn't seem to have any "kin" or "headmates" or made up pronouns. She's big into the idea that white men are responsible for all the evil throughout the history of the world...she's always been an upper middle class white American girl and our dad paid for her college, which she repaid him for by becoming a raving SJ psycho. He seems to enjoy it, though, because he's always deliberately pushing her buttons to make her freak out.

She claims you can't trust the dictionary because it was written by white men. "Racism is power+privilege." Rape culture, patriarchy, all that. She does little else besides smoke pot and complain about how she makes no money and America sucks and is just the worst and how England and Australia are so much better in every way, and how when she gets enough money she's going to live "Literally anywhere but here...or Asia...or Africa...or South America...or Eastern Europe...or Western Europe..." She'll bend over backwards to blame America for anything and absolve its enemies of anything. Our discussion on the A-Bomb was essentially her saying it was unreasonable of America to demand unconditional surrender and we should have made whatever concessions the Japanese wanted to avoid dropping the bomb.

One time I let her borrow a DVD box set of mine and when she returned it after a year, she had completely destroyed the first disc. When I said she should replace it...not even the whole thing, just the $10 first disc she ruined...she freaked out and screamed and took to Tumblr to bitch about how it was my fault and why didn't I replace it myself, because I lived at home and what expenses could I have? When I pointed out that she also lived at home and had literally no expenses outside of the enormous amounts of pot she smoked, that I had to pay for my car, car insurance, student loans, phone bill, insurance, and anything else I wanted, she replied by saying she needed the money more because how else would she afford her six month to a year long vacation in Australia?

Oh and she's 25.
"should've made whatever concessions the Japanese wanted. "
I really hope you tear her a new asshole for saying this. (Im about to sperg out here so apologies.) Anyone that bitches about colonialism would be absurdly ignorant to say something like this. The Japanese probably wouldve made peace at the cost of owning China, korea and every nearby Island. Life underneath Japanese occupation was fucking awful in these areas and they just would've continued treating them this way. The Japanese were fucking monsters in ww2 and dropping the bomb actually saved lives, had we tried to make peace with them they just would've subjugated all of their neighbors and had we gone boots on the ground there would've been mass suicides and even more military personnel killed on both sides.

I don't really know what I'm thinking expecting an SJW to be in the least bit informed but please tear her stupid arguments apart for me, no offense but she sounds like a huge cunt
 
I've noticed that most SJWs I've encountered seemed allergic to history books.

One of my English teachers years ago had a bit of a SJW mindset. He'd delve into social issues and commentate on them when no one was actually sure if that subtext was there or not. He didn't seem to believe that a story can be told just for the sake of telling it. He'd often go off on tangents that were more about the social issues then the actual book.

He was a nice teacher, but just a little bit too enthusiastic about finding subtext in things that may or may not actually be there.
 
I've noticed that most SJWs I've encountered seemed allergic to history books.

Does anoyene else know about the "Beethoven was black!1!!1" debate on tumblr? SJWs INSIST that he was a black man (because white people can't do anything good). They even mistook an ad with a black Bach and a black Beethoven for historical paintings.
 
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Does anoyene else know aboute the "Beethoven was black!1!!1" debate on tumblr? SJWs INSIST that he was a black man (because white people can't do anything good). They even mistook an ad with a black Bach and a black Beethoven for historical paintings.
Oh god, I remember that. That was so stupid. These idiots have a horrible case of confirmation bias.
 
Does anoyene else know about the "Beethoven was black!1!!1" debate on tumblr? SJWs INSIST that he was a black man (because white people can't do anything good). They even mistook an ad with a black Bach and a black Beethoven for historical paintings.

I can't stress how weary I am of blogs like medievalpoc and people who think this. As an art historian, I cringe when people use paintings as immediate evidence that the historical Jesus was pitch dark without a full understanding of the intricacies and complexities of symbolism that go into medieval iconographic artwork.

Speaking of that...


Louis Theroux did a great documentary looking into black nationalists. Some of them were more reasonable (though I'm not a fan of focusing so much on strict racial division, it just strikes me as antithetical to equality)... but then there were these guys. Proof that SJWs are hardly new. They even have the same argumentative tactic: bullying their opponent into their point of view through shaming and intimidation.
 
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Another ad but with Mozart.

How stupid are these people??

"NEW JAZZ ON YOUR CLASSIC RADIO"
Wtf?! Can't you see that's a fucking ad?? Are you so incredibly dumb? Nooo he was black! This picture from a fucking radio station (!!) is the proof! Read the REAL bios! Not all these false bios written by racist white people! Oh yeah and Islam!1!!1
 
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Another ad but with Mozart.

How stupid are these people??

"NEW JAZZ ON YOUR CLASSIC RADIO"
Wtf?! Can't you see that's a fucking ad?? Are you so incredibly dumb? Nooo he was black! This picture from a fucking radio station (!!) is the proof! Read the REAL bios! Not all these false bios written by racist white people! Oh yeah and Islam!1!!1

I remember when these were at the peak of circulation. What was that, three, four years ago?

There are so many famous and significant black historical figures in history. There's really no need to try and pass other figures off as secretly black, OMG.
 
I can't stress how weary I am of blogs like medievalpoc and people who think this. As an art historian, I cringe when people use paintings as immediate evidence that the historical Jesus was pitch dark without a full understanding of the intricacies and complexities of symbolism that go into medieval iconographic artwork.

Speaking of that...


Louis Theroux did a great documentary looking into black nationalists. Some of them were more reasonable (though I'm not a fan of focusing so much on strict racial division, it just strikes me as antithetical to equality)... but then there were these guys. Proof that SJWs are hardly new. They even have the same argumentative tactic: bullying their opponent into their point of view through shaming and intimidation.
man oh man, the Black Israelites...

I actually find most of their confrontations to be hilarious. Would make pretty good trolls.
 
On the subject of Black people in western history, the British Navy was surprisingly progressive for it's day it used freed an escaped American slaves and Africans who signed up in port city's in colonial areas they also got a full share of the bounty of any captured ship:
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There is a Indian gentleman on the left hand side middle.
I have seen that painting in person and it's stunning, if you ever get a chance to go to the Walker Art gallery take a look.

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A African Loader on the deck gun on the Right.

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There are Three Africans in this picture.

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The last one not pictured is part of the gun crew to the right of Nelson under the bridge steps. Being a gunner was a skilled job at the time for a seaman.

This is arguably the death of Britain's most important national hero, and the Sailors at the time where recognised for who they where an where they come from, while non of them where commissioned officers there names are still on record for every one to see.
 
Yeah, I'll forever be puzzled as to why some sjws insist on ignoring actual black historical figures and civilizations in favor of trying to peddle nutty historical revisionist nonsense about how a non-black person/group was totally black and evil white oppressors just hid the truth.

Especially when its with ancient Egyptians. Dear god what is with that particular fixation.
 
Yeah, I'll forever be puzzled as to why some sjws insist on ignoring actual black historical figures and civilizations in favor of trying to peddle nutty historical revisionist nonsense about how a non-black person/group was totally black and evil white oppressors just hid the truth.

Especially when its with ancient Egyptians. Dear god what is with that particular fixation.

It's the only place they know about in Africa.
 
Especially when its with ancient Egyptians. Dear god what is with that particular fixation.
It's been a long bitter debate about what race the Ancient Egyptians are.

This was the first time I noticed tumblr tier sjws breaching containment.
Go home white dancer gurl!
From Wikipedia:
Although there were dancers of this type at the 1876 Centennial in Philadelphia, it was not until the Chicago World's Fair that it gained national attention. There were authentic dancers from several Middle Eastern and North African countries, including Syria, Turkey and Algeria, but it was the dancers in the Egyptian Theater of The Street in the Cairo exhibit who gained the most notoriety. The fact that the dancers were uncorseted and gyrated their hips was shocking to Victorian sensibilities. There were no soloists, but it is claimed that a dancer nicknamed Little Egypt stole the show. Some claim the dancer was Farida Mazar Spyropoulos, but this fact is disputed.[15]

The popularity of these dancers subsequently spawned dozens of imitators, many of whom claimed to be from the original troupe. Victorian society continued to be affronted by this "shocking" dance, and dancers were sometimes arrested and fined.[16] The dance was nicknamed the "Hootchy-Kootchy" or "Hoochee-Coochie", or the shimmy and shake. A short film, "Fatima's Dance", was widely distributed in the Nickelodeon theaters. It drew criticism for its "immodest" dancing, and was eventually censored. Belly dance drew men in droves to burlesque theaters, and to carnival and circus lots.
I noticed some contradictions after watching that video discussing Shantae's depiction of belly dancing in the Gamergate thread (to show that Tom Preston is ignorant as always). I don't want to write an essay but from what I read, raqs sharqi is a modern dance that incorporated Western dance elements. Not sure if anything I said was useful but I thought I point out the discrepancies.

 
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Yeah, I'll forever be puzzled as to why some sjws insist on ignoring actual black historical figures and civilizations in favor of trying to peddle nutty historical revisionist nonsense about how a non-black person/group was totally black and evil white oppressors just hid the truth.

Especially when its with ancient Egyptians. Dear god what is with that particular fixation.


The debate around what colour the egyptians were is one of the most frustrating examples of politics (specifically race politics) interfereing with academia.

I'm not going to sperg off into detailed debunking and discussion of the studies since the 1970's, i'll just point out that the opinion that ancient egypt was black is rejected by the vast majority of egyptologists- citing sculpture, art,period literature, language and the preserved bodies of the actual fucking egyptians. The bodies have caucasian facial features and hair with north african skeletal proportians. The obvious conclusion is that the egyptians, being north africans, looked like north africans. With the corresponding range of skin tones, darker in the south and lighter in the north. Revolutionary i know. There was a bit of a fuss kicked up in 2007 when American afrocentrics really began pushing for recognition that the the ancient egyptians were black but every dna study since has returned results showing the mix of middle eastern, african and south European dna one would expect in northern africa, with most scholars agreeing that the modern population is 90% the same as the ancient one.

i only bring this up because the Afrocentrism side of academia shares so much with the SJW world:

There is hypocrisy as they cling to concepts of race no longer considered valid by the rest of the world. The definitions of race look more like something from jim crow america or apartheid sa than a scholarly lable for a specific social group. Why they think it would matter is a question they tend to shy away from.

Deliberately putting their own bias into their work to 'balance' the historical bias, when modern scholarship actively tries to stay objective. This is common in certain rad fem circles as well- doing something widely considered wrong or bad practice now to balance out a perceived historical wrong.

They accuse anyone who provides evidence that disagrees with them as 'deliberately confusing the public' a thinly veiled academic euphemism for an accusation of racism. If you argue with them without an established academic pedigree they will outright accuse you of racism.

They've created separate echo chambers 'african studies' 'african american studies' this essentially retards the peer review process by limiting their peers to those they agree with rather than historians generally. As i mentioned in past posts (either on this thread or the definitions one, i forget which) SJW's do this too with 'womens studies'.

They are found almost exclusively in the rich liberal parts of the US. I don't know enough about this to explain its relevance but i doubt its a coincidence that sjw's and afrocents are found in the same environment.

They dishonestly misrepresent data- a strand of african dna proves a pharoh was black despite the majority of his dna being from the middle east. Taking mislabled victorian diagrams of egyptian depictions of races and refusing to correct them as this would be whitewashing- despite the fact that the erroneous depictions they are relying on were mistranslated and mis compiled by white men. Insisting europeans are insulting modern egypt by removing its blackness-when egypt's senior egyptologists replied that in their view ancient egypt was not black he was accused of racism.

Afrocentricts also spend a huge amount of time attacking 'eurocentrism' and using it as a scapegoat the same as sjw's use 'patriarchy'.

Its pathetic as there are loads of legitimately under studied and poorly understood african civilizations that should be being explored on their own merits rather than wasting time trying to claim egypt was black. Its horribly racist as it implies the rest of africa is somehow inferior. They don't need egypt to prove sophistication as 1. No serious academic thinks black people are inferior 2. There are plenty other examples of sophisticated black societies.

I can't quite put my finger on it but there is a fundamental link between sjw's and afrocents. I suspect it has something to do with both a massive inferiority complex, victum complex and an fanatical opposition to anything that contradicts their world view to the point that they are willing to censer and pervert data if it disagrees with them.

As i said i cant quite get it but there is a common thread.

This was typed on my phone so apologies for the horrendous grammar and spelling- my phone is sonygender droidsexual and hates white cis males like me!
 
The debate around what colour the egyptians were is one of the most frustrating examples of politics (specifically race politics) interfereing with academia.

I'm not going to sperg off into detailed debunking and discussion of the studies since the 1970's, i'll just point out that the opinion that ancient egypt was black is rejected by the vast majority of egyptologists- citing sculpture, art,period literature, language and the preserved bodies of the actual fucking egyptians. The bodies have caucasian facial features and hair with north african skeletal proportians. The obvious conclusion is that the egyptians, being north africans, looked like north africans. With the corresponding range of skin tones, darker in the south and lighter in the north. Revolutionary i know. There was a bit of a fuss kicked up in 2007 when American afrocentrics really began pushing for recognition that the the ancient egyptians were black but every dna study since has returned results showing the mix of middle eastern, african and south European dna one would expect in northern africa, with most scholars agreeing that the modern population is 90% the same as the ancient one.

i only bring this up because the Afrocentrism side of academia shares so much with the SJW world:

There is hypocrisy as they cling to concepts of race no longer considered valid by the rest of the world. The definitions of race look more like something from jim crow america or apartheid sa than a scholarly lable for a specific social group. Why they think it would matter is a question they tend to shy away from.

Deliberately putting their own bias into their work to 'balance' the historical bias, when modern scholarship actively tries to stay objective. This is common in certain rad fem circles as well- doing something widely considered wrong or bad practice now to balance out a perceived historical wrong.

They accuse anyone who provides evidence that disagrees with them as 'deliberately confusing the public' a thinly veiled academic euphemism for an accusation of racism. If you argue with them without an established academic pedigree they will outright accuse you of racism.

They've created separate echo chambers 'african studies' 'african american studies' this essentially retards the peer review process by limiting their peers to those they agree with rather than historians generally. As i mentioned in past posts (either on this thread or the definitions one, i forget which) SJW's do this too with 'womens studies'.

They are found almost exclusively in the rich liberal parts of the US. I don't know enough about this to explain its relevance but i doubt its a coincidence that sjw's and afrocents are found in the same environment.

They dishonestly misrepresent data- a strand of african dna proves a pharoh was black despite the majority of his dna being from the middle east. Taking mislabled victorian diagrams of egyptian depictions of races and refusing to correct them as this would be whitewashing- despite the fact that the erroneous depictions they are relying on were mistranslated and mis compiled by white men. Insisting europeans are insulting modern egypt by removing its blackness-when egypt's senior egyptologists replied that in their view ancient egypt was not black he was accused of racism.

Afrocentricts also spend a huge amount of time attacking 'eurocentrism' and using it as a scapegoat the same as sjw's use 'patriarchy'.

Its pathetic as there are loads of legitimately under studied and poorly understood african civilizations that should be being explored on their own merits rather than wasting time trying to claim egypt was black. Its horribly racist as it implies the rest of africa is somehow inferior. They don't need egypt to prove sophistication as 1. No serious academic thinks black people are inferior 2. There are plenty other examples of sophisticated black societies.

I can't quite put my finger on it but there is a fundamental link between sjw's and afrocents. I suspect it has something to do with both a massive inferiority complex, victum complex and an fanatical opposition to anything that contradicts their world view to the point that they are willing to censer and pervert data if it disagrees with them.

As i said i cant quite get it but there is a common thread.

This was typed on my phone so apologies for the horrendous grammar and spelling- my phone is sonygender droidsexual and hates white cis males like me!

Well said, very well said indeed.

There seems to be a running trend forming in SJW circles to try and attempt to rewrite history to suit there selection of facts rather than reflecting real history, while this is nothing new as people with a agenda will always warp facts to suit there case the way SJW's do it is beguiling and glosses over a lot of the finer points in of history.
 
Well said, very well said indeed.

There seems to be a running trend forming in SJW circles to try and attempt to rewrite history to suit there selection of facts rather than reflecting real history, while this is nothing new as people with a agenda will always warp facts to suit there case the way SJW's do it is beguiling and glosses over a lot of the finer points in of history.


After reading your comment and thinking a bit more I do wonder if the common thread might be marxism. Hear me out- im not a crazy mra about to rant about postmodern marxists or somesuch!

The pioneering academics in both radfem and afrocentric circles were in origin marxist thinkers. While there is nothing wrong with this per se marxism has received considerable critisim (since the 1980/90's in particular) for its inaccurate and overly simplistic view on history (feudalism was far more complicated than marx believed and tribal communism far closer to the reality of soviet communism than later writers claimed) and its focus as a conflict theory. Feminism is widely acknowledged as another conflict theory and i would argue that afrocentrism should be as well (marxists v capitalist, feminst v patriarchy and africent v eurocent) I believe that in order to maintain these overly simple narratives all three schools are forced to simplify history.

I'm not trying to make a political point as the right has many examples of revisionist thinking, however in the case of Sjw's, Afrocents and other further left movements I do believe its something that they have inhereted from early marxist thinkers as a natural result of an overly simple conflict theory.

EDIT: ive thought of an illustation to show what i mean: conflict theorists start from the position that x v y is the state of affairs and struggle between the two is normal or inevitable; this leads them to go through history looking for things that confirm this and invariably leads to cherry picking and confirmation bias. Conventional Historians by contrast look for a detailed understanding of events and draw conclusions from that.

For comparision in the hard sciences the kind of people who start with what they Want to be true and go out seeking proof tend to end up proving smoking is good for you. The people who look at the effects of smoking without looking for a particular result overwhelmingly find the opposite.
 
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After reading your comment and thinking a bit more I do wonder if the common thread might be marxism. Hear me out- im not a crazy mra about to rant about postmodern marxists or somesuch!

The pioneering academics in both radfem and eurocentric circles were in origin marxist thinkers. While there is nothing wrong with this per se marxism has received considerable critisim (since the 1980/90's in particular) for its inaccurate and overly simplistic view on history (feudalism was far more complicated than marx believed and tribal communism far closer to the reality of soviet communism than later writers claimed) and its focus as a conflict theory. Feminism is widely acknowledged as another conflict theory and i would argue that afrocentrism should be as well (marxists v capitalist, feminst v patriarchy and africent v eurocent) I believe that in order to maintain these overly simple narratives all three schools are forced to simplify history.

I'm not trying to make a political point as the right has many examples of revisionist thinking, however in the case of Sjw's, Afrocents and other further left movements I do believe its something that they have inhereted from early marxist thinkers as a natural result of an overly simple conflict theory.

That has given me something to think about, I can see how that would have come about as the philosophy has evolved over time and been changed with modern times and issues.

I am going to be pondering this for the rest of the day.
 
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