UN Environmentalist Pentti Linkola is dead - Radical ecologist, ornithologist, writer and fisherman


A conservationist, ornithologist Pentti Linkola , 87, is dead. This is confirmed to Yle linkola’s daughter Leena Linkola , but he did not want to comment more.

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Pentti Linkola was born in Helsinki 7 December 1932. He was known for deep ecological thinking trend of the representative, and a professional fisherman. Linkola founded in 1995, natural heritage foundation, which bought the Finnish old-growth forests to be protected. Linkola lived Sääksmäen Ritvalassa.

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Linkola graduated from high school in 1950, the Helsinki Finnish co-educational school, after which he studied at the university of Helsinki in animal and plant science. Years 1952-1959 Linkola worked free natural researcher. In 1959 he started professional fishing and fish both sea and lake.
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Very sad to see a thinker such as Linkola pass on, but hopefully it'll create some buzz for people who haven't been exposed to his works. A bit dark, but highly reccomended nonetheless.

"Can Life Prevail?"

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Too bad he didn't die from the coof, for maximum irony, as another Marxist-green who thinks radical change starting with everyone else was the answer, hits the grave.


Real low IQ posting. Most HxC environmentalists are not Marxists. Marxism is all about helping and furthering humanity. Even every ML dictator was hellbent on industrialization. HxC environmentalism is about killing humanity off.

But to be quite honest, I'd rather see most of the people who posted in this thread be turned into mulch, over any innocent tree.
 
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The reasons cities didn't become as big as they are until the 19th century is because automated farming did not come around until then.
Because it opened up rural migration and production to the point where the usual urban-to-rural population ratio could change. There are good reasons why throughout human history urbanites rarely exceeded >20% of the population. It's rather silly to say that cities are 'natural' to humanity when, even in the best cases, it took 80+% of the population working in the country to keep them afloat, along with a steady stream of rural migrants because cities couldn't support population growth on their own.

It always took gargantuan efforts to make large urban environments viable, and it's only through a very recent complete energy revolution that we were able to create the conditions for it to become the standard. It was such a difficult thing that we succeeded in human flight before figuring that shit out.

And the supreme irony is now that we have reached a point in our civilization that cities are liveable and a place you can live rather than have to live, people just choose to live in surburbs and towns instead if they can afford it. We've finally made city living for all viable, yet we see scores of urbanites run back to the countryside and it's (Mc)villages. It is something that inherently appeals to us, having space, security and a sense of community. Because living in a tiny concrete sardine tin isn't going to feel fucking 'natural' no matter how polished that turd might get.
 
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So he's a Malthusian. Yawn. That shit was proven false hundreds of years ago (thank you industrial revolution) but the tree huggers reworked it so they can keep crowing about how the sky is falling forever because of projected scarcity of some thing or another.
Malthusian methodology isn't itself wrong, since it's basically just a series of empirical calculations. Malthus and his followers didn't (and frankly couldn't) account for the fact that technological innovation would massively increase productivity that greatly increased available food supplies.
 
Real low IQ posting. Most HxC environmentalists are not Marxists. Marxism is all about helping and furthering humanity. Even every ML dictator was hellbent on industrialization. HxC environmentalism is about killing humanity off.

But to be quite honest, I'd rather see most of the people who posted in this thread be turned into mulch, over any innocent tree.
I feel like you lot would get along great with Social Ecologists tho.

90% anti-capitalism
10% tree huggery
0% caring about biodiversity/ecosystem integrity
 
I feel like you lot would get along great with Social Ecologists tho.

90% anti-capitalism
10% tree huggery
0% caring about biodiversity/ecosystem integrity

I stopped overtly hating humanity before I graduated high school.

I'm only interested in genociding landlords and capitalists now.
 
I stopped overtly hating humanity before I graduated high school.

I'm only interested in genociding landlords and capitalists now.
See that's whats funny tho, Social Ecologists dont actually hate humanity.

They care more about dismantling capitalism than they do about actually saving any particular taxa from extinction
 
Your assertion that cities aren't natural is more of that "noble savage" bullshit.

Every society, everywhere in the world, regardless of local culture, builds one as soon as they have the tech to do so.

Communities =/= cities, hence why I specifically noted nomadic cultures as an example of large communities that don't naturally form cities. Also, your terms aren't anywhere near defined enough for these assertions to make sense. 'As soon as they have the tech to do so' means... what, exactly? As soon as they know how to build houses? What about cultures like the Mongols? They knew how to build houses just fine. They were skilled enough engineers to build fleets of ships and try and invade Japan, but they remained nomadic and mobile long after becoming one of the richest and most powerful empires on earth. What about many of the ancient Arabic and Mesopotamian cultures, who were skilled enough stone workers to carve huge temple complexes that have lasted for thousands of years? Despite all that ability, the overwhelming majority of their populations were transient and didn't congregate in cities until empires like Persia and Rome came along and subjugated them. Even then, many of their descendants remain voluntarily nomadic to this day. The assertion that cultures just naturally start congregating in cities as soon as they have a nebulous level of technology points (the world is just a very advanced Paradox Grand Strategy title, after all) simply doesn't hold up to any level of historical analysis.

Cities are just what you get when technology removes the natural "cap" of how big a given community can grow before it runs out of food or produces too much waste to handle. Agriculture moved us from teepee to thatch hut, and tractors then moved us to apartment block, it's a natural evolution.

The more you use the word 'natural', the more I think you have no idea how to use it. There was nothing 'natural' about the expansion of cities in either the ancient or modern eras. Rome is a great example. Rome was one of the largest (and filthiest, and most disease-ridden, and most prone to spontaneously burning down) cities of the ancient world, and it grew directly as a result of advances in agriculture. But the driving force behind those advances had nothing to do with nature. It had to do with greedy Patricians forcibly buying up gigantic tracks of land and turning them into enormous slave-plantations. The disenfranchised poor were then forced to migrate inwards to the cities, where they survived mostly on the grain dole. It was not their choice to migrate, nor did it improve their lives, nor did it result in a 'more advanced' system. It resulted in several near famines, and the eventual destruction of the Republican government via a populist uprising.

In the modern/industrial revolution era, the pattern remains the same. Cities were important trading and economic hubs, but they were not viable for long-term habitation and internal expansion until the great industrial barons began creating tightly regulated (and staggeringly unethical) industrial programs that forced the agrarian populace to either convert to the new method or die of starvation. Just like with ancient Rome, these men monopolized the resources necessary for massive economic expansion and gave people no choice but to conform. They bought up agricultural land and constructed whole towns that operated on a tightly planned internal economy that made sure the workers had to do their turn in the mines or factories in order to pay for the food that in previous years they'd have been producing on their own. 'Advancement' of this nature has always been artificial and top-down, it has never been natural.
 
I feel like you lot would get along great with Social Ecologists tho.

90% anti-capitalism
10% tree huggery
0% caring about biodiversity/ecosystem integrity

Nope.

Any desire to dismantle capitalism from these people is motivated by a want to curb human development, reproduction, in order to save the Earth. It has nothing to do with Marxism or from a disdain for capitalism as a system itself. Marxists hate the human exploitation that is the result of capitalism, their care for the environment (if they have it) is not the main motivation. They also don't hate humanity as the whole point of Marxism is to improve the living conditions for all.
 
Nope.

Any desire to dismantle capitalism from these people is motivated by a want to curb human development, reproduction, in order to save the Earth. It has nothing to do with Marxism or from a disdain for capitalism as a system itself. Marxists hate the human exploitation that is the result of capitalism, their care for the environment (if they have it) is not the main motivation. They also don't hate humanity as the whole point of Marxism is to improve the living conditions for all.
“Marxists hate human exploitation”

Oh you are just precious.
 
But all are outdone by 1) environmentalist faggots ("muh fuel consumption bro") 2) animal rights faggots (re:big mammal faggots)
Animal rights faggots are the worst thing to have happened to wildlife conservation. Especially as they constantly try and cancel the sustainable utilization of wildlife resources that's keeping so much wildlife alive.
 
Indeed. And then we can replace it with the exploitation caused by communism! Much better for everyone!
Marxism is by far the stupidest religion out there, and has arguably resulted in more deaths than any other religion as a result. It may be good in theory, but it cannot be implemented without fundamentally changing human nature, and as a result can never reach the end state of true communism. Instead, they always get stuck in the socialist stage, with mass exploitation by an authoritarian and hyper intrusive government, 99.99% of the population wallowing in shit and the 0.01% living like kings. To all the larping Marxist faggots out there, especially you our beloved titty kulak, you will never become the politburo: Comrades Jamal, Cletus, and Jose (or in your case Comrades Sven and Ahmed) will take care of you.
 
I will not deny that cities are a progression of human development, but I also feel that there is a component of the urban environment that brings out the worst of humanity. It would be hard to pretend that urbanites don't have a tendency to be selfish, violent, and arrogant, and this sentiment seems to appear in cities throughout history.
The big issue, I'd say, is the modern metropolis encouraging a near-complete disconnect from manual labor and the rural society, which amplifies the existing urban-rural contrast and is a major component in the nu-male phenomenon.
You underestimate the resilience of civilization. This is not post-Roman Europe. Almost everyone can read and write, and repositories of information are far more ubiquitous than ever before. Some specialist knowledge might be lost in a civil collapse but it is unlikely this would result in the significant loss of technological progress. Because people are simply too educated. Say what you want about our education standards in America but the average American idiot is still smarter and more learned than an idiot in Post-Roman Gaul 1000+ years ago
 
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