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Funny thing there was another interview with Sweeny where he said that it essentially doesnt matter how their store is shit and lacks features, all that matters are the numbers of users. Then he claimed how this "minimalist" approach was good and making their whole "store" less cluttered.
 
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Funny thing there was another interview with Sweeny where he said that it essentially doesnt matter how their store is shit and lacks features, all that matters are the numbers of users. Then he claimed how this "minimalist" approach was good and making their whole "store" less cluttered.
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I wonder if he realizes that having a non-shit store would be the #1 way to grow users.
 
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Tim Sweeny still thinks his exclusives will 'improve everything' and thinks doubling down on it will work. His logic is fucking bizarre and makes no fucking sense. He claims they'll stop doing exclusives is Steam does their split and put their games on Steam. Which means making his prime competition more competitive. Business don't fucking work this way. He seems like he's genuinely fucking autistic because it demonstrates absolutely no knowledge of business whatsoever.

The ONLY thing Epic has going for it are exclusives. If they stop doing that, the store will simply die. It makes no fucking sense in any way, shape or form.
 
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IM SORRY I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE DICK IN YOUR MOUTH, COULD YOU PLEASE BE LESS OF A PRANCING HOMOEROTIC FAGGOT AND REMOVE THE COCK FROM YOUR MOUTH YOU GAY COCKSUCKING HOMO MAN
 
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IM SORRY I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE DICK IN YOUR MOUTH, COULD YOU PLEASE BE LESS OF A PRANCING HOMOEROTIC FAGGOT AND REMOVE THE COCK FROM YOUR MOUTH YOU GAY COCKSUCKING HOMO MAN
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I have one response to this.

I fucked you in the ass so hard you've become obsessed with the gay.

Also fucking lol
 
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Tim Sweeney blames Valve for crowdfunding uproar, claims Steam "traps crowdfunded projects" on their platform

Tim Sweeney, founder of the mega-popular studio Epic Games, took to Twitter in a dialogue regarding the recent Shenmue III fiasco. For those unaware, Shenmue III is a crowdfunded game produced by Ys Net. At E3 2019’s PC Gaming Show, Ys Net announced that Shenmue III would be launching on the Epic...
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So, you know that one meme with the guy with the bicycle, where he sticks the stick inbetween the spokens, and injures himself in the process?

That's pretty much what Tim Sweeney's doing here.
 
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He's autistic. That's the only explanation. People want the game on Steam. Therefore Steam is responsible for wanting the game on Steam. No nigger. People want it. That's why you're wrong about devs winning the store war. You're fucking autistic. You don't understand a fucking thing about people. That's the only explanation. He's severely autistic and does not understand people.
 
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This motherfucker. Steam isn't forcing any crowdfunded game to offer their on Steam first just to switch gears when you throw a sack of money at their feet. YOU'RE causing this problem! You're pissing people off with this exclusive bullshit by trying to force people to go somewhere they don't want to.

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1. Fuck off, Valve having exclusives for games they made is not the same thing as what you're doing
2. None of the companies are doing what you're doing for exclusives. Want to know why Bayonetta 2 is a Nintendo exclusive? They fucking paid to get it made. They didn't drop a sack of cash at Platinum's feet after everything was done. It wouldn't have existed without Nintendo.
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At first, I was just annoyed, now I'm starting to get genuinely pissed off at Tim refusing to acknowledge how his strong-arm tactics suck and give 0 benefits to the customer.
 
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This motherfucker. Steam isn't forcing any crowdfunded game to offer their on Steam first just to switch gears when you throw a sack of money at their feet. YOU'RE causing this problem! You're pissing people off with this exclusive bullshit by trying to force people to go somewhere they don't want to.

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1. Fuck off, Valve having exclusives for games they made is not the same thing as what you're doing
2. None of the companies are doing what you're doing for exclusives. Want to know why Bayonetta 2 is a Nintendo exclusive? They fucking paid to get it made. They didn't drop a sack of cash at Platinum's feet after everything was done. It wouldn't have existed without Nintendo.
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At first, I was just annoyed, now I'm starting to get genuinely pissed off at Tim refusing to acknowledge how his strong-arm tactics suck and give 0 benefits to the customer.
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"Microsoft has the right to make deals with developers!"

Microsoft : "Buy out shit wherever you want, it's coming to steam, xbox, and the switch. We put xbox live on the switch, we don't give a fuck."
Microsoft : "You thought we forgot playstation? We're partnering to make a streaming service."

How is this guy still CEO of that company? This is Don Mattrick levels of horrendously out of touch with your userbase.
 
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Because Fortnite is the only game they made in like 20 fucking years besides having an engine. Sweeny no longer has any understanding of the gaming space or his consumers. He's acting like its 2003, thinking there's little choice and he's 'rescuing' PC gaming when all he's doing is being an autistic cunt who doesn't know what the fuck is going on.
 
The tired cat said:
Funny thing there was another interview with Sweeny where he said that it essentially doesnt matter how their store is shit and lacks features, all that matters are the numbers of users. Then he claimed how this "minimalist" approach was good and making their whole "store" less cluttered.
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here at sweeny groceries we decided to make our store less cluttered.
we got rid of shopping carts, now you have to go back and forth carrying everything to the checkout.
hell, we got rid of those pesky shelves, they just got in the way. all the food is on the floor in a pile.
 
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Hey Tim, fuck you, you slimy piece of shit. You don't get to whine about Steam not helping you out of the mess you created by forcing these games to be exclusives. Why the hell should Steam literally pay to bail you out by handing out free keys?

Tim Sweeney said:
“Epic’s not going to refuse funding worthy exclusivity partners just because a Steam policy change traps crowdfunded projects into either launching on Steam for 30% or offering backers refunds.”
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Steam didn't trap a goddamn thing. These assholes promised to put their game on Steam, took customers money and are backing out on their end of the bargain because you dropped sacks of money at their feet. This is explicitly your fault this is happening. Stop being a disingenuous shitbag.

Fuck it, I'm actually mad about this. I accept the angry hats
 
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Shenmue III backers get refunds but Steam is blamed for not providing Steam keys.

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Update 104: Update On PC Version Rewards · Shenmue 3

日本語はこちら Hello Everyone, Regarding the recently announced Epic Games Store exclusive, all of us here at YSNET, Deep Silver and Epic are taking the matter with utmost concern and would like to clarify the circumstances leading to the decision and offer backers options for moving forward...
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Concerning Refunds

Along with Deep Silver and Epic Games, we have agreed that should the above proposal not be acceptable to backers, refund requests will be honored.

Details concerning the refund request process will be announced in a following update. We ask for your patience until that time.

*In the case rewards within your reward tier, such as in-game content, have already been created and implemented, a full refund may not be possible.
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Regarding the recently announced Epic Games Store exclusive, all of us here at YSNET, Deep Silver and Epic are taking the matter with utmost concern and would like to clarify the circumstances leading to the decision and offer backers options for moving forward.



As noted in the updates and survey at launch, we had originally planned for PC distribution through Steam. Taking publishing and sales considerations into account, YSNET and Deep Silver agreed to our partnership with Epic Games Store on PC version distribution. As a publishing partner, Deep Silver has greatly contributed not only to sales and marketing, but to scaling up the game so there is more Shenmue III to begin with. Also, Epic Games has been with us from the start of the project when we adopted Unreal Engine 4 for development, and have given us their support throughout the development process.


In response to backers who have requested Steam keys for their rewards, we discussed offering the keys on the day of release. However, coordination with the sales policies of the involved companies was untenable, and as a result we are not able to make a day one distribution option for Steam keys available.


That we are not able to offer Steam keys for Kickstarter rewards at the time of the game’s release is a great disappointed and inconvenience for those backers who were expecting to receive them. We deeply apologize for the unrest caused by the announcement.
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"Reeeeee why don't we get Steam keys even tho our game isn't on Steam??!"

Fucking Idiots.
 
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To borrow a quote from a webcomic: "There's twisting words around and then there's being re.tarded for the sake of being re.tarded" fits these mofos like a glove.
 
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Well at least they wised up and realized they had to give back refunds

Also, Epic Games has been with us from the start of the project when we adopted Unreal Engine 4 for development, and have given us their support throughout the development process.
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Motherfucker, deciding to use Epic's engine a year or two ago doesn't count. A bunch of games do, they don't become exclusives because of it. Don't get cheeky.
 
So people dug around a bit more and, for those that aren't applying for refunds (though, seriously, why the fuck aren't people at this point) and are sticking with getting the $60 physical disc edition, they will instead be getting a disc with the Epic Games Store launcher installed on it.

Not the game, nor a Steam version. as people with the receipts and e-mails from Deep Silver/Ys Net had said: a disc for the launcher. Like one of those AOL discs you would get for 100 minutes of Internet back when dial-up was a thing. Except even those were more useful than this disc.

...On the plus side, the exclusivity deal seems to have been cut down from "forever" to "1 year" but only if you switch to Steam on their old, now updated, survey you had to sign so that's...better? But it just shows that the more people find out about this, the worse the news keeps getting.
 
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