Epic Games General Thread - Its time to talk about what the AAA gaming industry does not understand about the PC console.

ZehnBoat said:
customer: hey, we'd like to play your game
ooblets developer: lol too bad

customer: hey, we'd like to play your game
rocket league developer: lol too bad


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It's just a power move to show off Steam's poor refund policy. That's all this is, and it's so fucking transparent.

Psyonix: Yo just ask for refunds on our site.
Customers: We can't, you've denied every single one and told us to go to Steam.
Psyonix: Well then, we'll get special privileges from Steam to allow you to get a refund, we wouldn't lie to you would we? :3 Go try it out yourself.
Customers: ...Uh, nope, Valve's still sticking to their policy, and have literally never made an exception to their refund policy.
Psyonix: Oh my Steam how could you such a thing? You're not a very good platform now are ya?

Classic strategy from Epic: don't actually improve in areas of your store to entice people over, just make yourself look like a "nice guy" by lying about your competitor's shit to make them look worse.

Y'know, despite the fact that Epic also doesn't have a stable refund feature, and that, again, Valve has never ever made exceptions to this rule ever unless the game was outright broken and wouldn't work, and even then...
 
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OmnipotentStupidity said:
It's just a power move to show off Steam's poor refund policy. That's all this is, and it's so fucking transparent.
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and all it's doing is make people hate the game, and epic more

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So if The Wonderful 101 ever gets a PC port, it'll be an Epic exclusive.

That game's cursed, I swear. It's a Wii U exclusive that managed to get overshadowed by even the paltry selection Wii U had, there's no announcement for any ports to anything newer, and this would cement that any hopes of a PC port would send it straight to Epic.
 
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Steam's refund policy is basically identical to most other gaming sites and as far as I know were the first ones to have them.

Also, Rocket League is no longer controlled by Steam and its not really fair to refund somebody who has played the game for like 200 hours.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
Steam's refund policy is basically identical to most other gaming sites and as far as I know were the first ones to have them.

Also, Rocket League is no longer controlled by Steam and its not really fair to refund somebody who has played the game for like 200 hours.
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Origin's only claim to fame in 2013 was that it had exclusive EA games, and that it had a return policy 2 years before Steam.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
Steam's refund policy is basically identical to most other gaming sites and as far as I know were the first ones to have them.

Also, Rocket League is no longer controlled by Steam and its not really fair to refund somebody who has played the game for like 200 hours.
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Fair enough, though it doesn't sit right with me that they could just axe Mac & Linux support out of the blue. If it's still playable in single player, that's understandable, but if the whole game can't even be started anymore, then I'd say at least a partial refund would be fair. Like if at least 90% of your playtime was from a Mac or Linux machine.

Also, what about that one thing where Steam could play Windows games on Linux? Does Rocket League work through that?
 
Pissmaster General said:
Fair enough, though it doesn't sit right with me that they could just axe Mac & Linux support out of the blue. If it's still playable in single player, that's understandable, but if the whole game can't even be started anymore, then I'd say at least a partial refund would be fair. Like if at least 90% of your playtime was from a Mac or Linux machine.

Also, what about that one thing where Steam could play Windows games on Linux? Does Rocket League work through that?
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Rocket League is in a weird place, since it will probably eventually be removed from Steam. Right now it seems like Epic is just using it to be petty and try to piss off the community against Steam.
 
Gothic may wind up an Epic Store Exclusive, the remake demo is being published by Nordic/THQ and they're not above making deals with Epic especially since the game runs on U4.

Makes me wonder just how many people would shit the bed if the Riven Remake finally happened and it's an epic store exclusive.
 
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Marissa Moira said:
Gothic may wind up an Epic Store Exclusive, the remake demo is being published by Nordic/THQ and they're not above making deals with Epic especially since the game runs on U4.

Makes me wonder just how many people would shit the bed if the Riven Remake finally happened and it's an epic store exclusive.
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Haven't seen anything on the Spongebob and Destroy All Humans remakes becoming Epic exclusive. Both are running on UE4. Think Valve has a clause that makes announcing for Steam then pulling a Shenmue 3 against the rules.

The Gothic remake, like the DAH and Spongebob remakes, has a Steam page. Something like this is highly unlikely.

Turns out the Steam page is just for the teaser. Sneaky bastards.
 
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Aberforth said:
Haven't seen anything on the Spongebob and Destroy All Humans remakes becoming Epic exclusive. Both are running on UE4. Think Valve has a clause that makes announcing for Steam then pulling a Shenmue 3 against the rules.

The Gothic remake, like the DAH and Spongebob remakes, has a Steam page. Something like this is highly unlikely.

Turns out the Steam page is just for the teaser. Sneaky bastards.
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Like I said, we'll just pirate the games then.
 
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Aberforth said:
Haven't seen anything on the Spongebob and Destroy All Humans remakes becoming Epic exclusive. Both are running on UE4. Think Valve has a clause that makes announcing for Steam then pulling a Shenmue 3 against the rules.

The Gothic remake, like the DAH and Spongebob remakes, has a Steam page. Something like this is highly unlikely.

Turns out the Steam page is just for the teaser. Sneaky bastards.
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Yeah that's what made me suspicious, the steam page being just for the teaser is really odd.
 
Marissa Moira said:
Yeah that's what made me suspicious, the steam page being just for the teaser is really odd.
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When it came to the Gothic remake, I could be wrong but wasn't the teaser page on steam also provided with a short demo. An how the entire deal is to see what people think and what changes they want done if a full game is made?
 
Pissmaster General said:
Fair enough, though it doesn't sit right with me that they could just axe Mac & Linux support out of the blue. If it's still playable in single player, that's understandable, but if the whole game can't even be started anymore, then I'd say at least a partial refund would be fair. Like if at least 90% of your playtime was from a Mac or Linux machine.
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Steam gave refunds for Rust regardless of playtime after the developers dropped Linux support, so there's at least something in place to protect the customer if support is removed entirely. I'm just now hearing about the Rocket League situation, so maybe there's something different going on.

edit: I see they're getting refunds now, just not for microtransactions.
 
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Of course it's an Epic exclusive. These devs have a history of fucking up and there goes any money I will ever give them.
 
I was maybe going to buy it after it was out for a while and patched but the Epic exclusivity killed any interest I had left in it.
 
As for Rocket League, i can't speak for the US, but i believe unless they're specifically selling their game as a service, as Rocket League is intended as a primarily multiplayer game, a class action lawsuit is possible for Linux & Mac users under EU juridistiction as this can be seen as preferential treatment on some very specific factor, trust me, there's a shitton of those. I'd ask a Norwegian lawyer i know, but she's currently snorting cocaine off a hooker's bleached anus in Thailand, or something close enough to that. I'd rather not disturb her while she's off the whole law cycle with questions about law like that
 
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