Epic Games General Thread - Its time to talk about what the AAA gaming industry does not understand about the PC console.

Wait, so people that financially support the developer don’t get a key? What? In what fucking universe does that make sense? Most of the Patreon funded games are free with early builds being the backer incentive, but how the fuck would this work for a game made to be sold. And what developer is that pithy with someone who Gives Them Money?

Most millennial indie developers buy the line that gamers are 'entitled' thanks to game journos. The problem is that gaming is not a different industry than like say, selling a car or an appliance. Its like if a luxury car advertises 'This is going to be the best thing ever, have GPS, four wheel drive, and everything!' and the guy shows up with a fucking pacer, nobody is going to call you entitled. The problem is that these dumb faggots think the industry works differently. It doesn't. Gamers don't give a shit about being called entitled. Most don't give a shit at being called anything anymore.

Everyone in this hobby, as I've seen, has been treated like dirt. Corporations, developers, publishers, its own fucking media. They all believe that gamers are entitled and should shut the fuck up and be good little pay piggies. Nigger, you're not a hot lady and I don't give money to thots or dumb faggots. These developers literally believe they're entitled to this money. I mean, they just exposed their true colors. 'Pay us no matter what, fuck you.' For what? A shitter version of Stardew Valley? No.

The reason why companies, media, developers treat gamers like shit is because they believe they're entitled to our money and that we should shut the fuck up and be thankful for what we've got and let them handle everything that they give us. I mean, in the past gamers would buy fucking anything. The problem is once you get fucked over so much, you basically just stop buying. And that's what we see happening. We're told we should blindly accept being fucked over.

The gaming community is 'toxic' they say. Good. Fuck you cunts. I'll decide with my wallet who gets my money. I'm giving less and less of a fuck about these 'poor indie developers'. Eat out of the trash. You deserve it.

I say we should stay toxic as long as necessary. They want our money? Earn it. As far as I'm concerned, very very few developers and publishers lately have deserved any payment from me. And I will pirate every Epic exclusive. Because fuck Tim Sweeny.

Amen. Anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge on how marketing works knows that you really, really don't want to piss off your customers in any way possible. MN9's famous "Make the bad guys cry like an anime fan on prom night" became a meme because of how it insulted the audience, despite its intention to be a playful jab. Ooblets, though, wow. If I worked on that game, I'd distance myself from it as much as possible, pulling whatever assets I contributed if I could, or having them attributed to Alan Smithee.

That thing you said about how he seems like he just received a check for more money than he's ever had in his life is sticking with me. Perplamps is acting like such an arrogant assclown because he just hit the jackpot, but reality is going to fuck him sideways when he wakes up one day to find all his money's gone, his reputation is tarnished, and his game isn't selling at all. It's a lot like those lottery winners that get rich overnight, go nuts, and burn it all, often ending up bankrupt or in prison.

So he might just be the newest lolcow. We should keep an eye on his antics.

Mighty Number 9 was extremely passive aggressive because it hired a cunt who fucked her way into the company and basically destroyed any good-will it had. But it was also run extraordinarily shittily as well. The ad campaign was a cherry on top of the shit sandwich and it basically brought the entire game down because of all the mistakes they made. It was hyped before, people lost interest, it got such a bad name nobody bought it.

I mean, the lucky thing is that if you're working on the game, nobody is going to remember anyone except the head dev and his company. That's the silver lining here. Oh, he definitely did. I have no doubt a lot of indies feel this way and a ton must be chomping at the bit to get some of that sweet Epic welfare check. That's literally what it is. Its fucking welfare. They didn't earn that money. Ever notice how all of these indies never tell you how exactly they're going to make the game better? Because they're doing what the publishers do, just giving it to themselves.

If a person works for something, it has value. I worked hard for the shit I own. But if its just given, you can treat it like shit, because you didn't invest any energy in getting it. If I give somebody a Ferrari and they wreck it, they might be upset, but they'll just shrug their shoulders at the end of the day, because I just plopped it in their lap. Contrast this with a guy who worked years for it, and they'll treat it like a child.

At the end of the day, I think for indies, that's what this Epic money is going to do. There's going to be this assumption that they deserved and earned it. So they're not really going to work any harder. Why would they? Would you? Fuck no. You basically got paid for an entire year's worth of sales. How hard are you REALLY going to work on that game now? Are you going to look at it and go 'Wow, we can do even more features!', rolling the dice and spending some of that check you got, or are you just going to do the bare minimum and churn out what you promised? Human nature informs me the latter. Just look at the way they're treating people who supported them. You think these people are going to put the effort in? No.

That's another difference between Epic exclusives and First Party Exclusives like Sony or Nintendo. With Epic, you don't have to answer to anyone. They just hand you a fucking check and shrug. Sweeny genuinely believes developers are going to make him 'win' over Valve instead of the people who buy things. So there's basically no strings attached. They're NEVER going to meet sales goals on Epic, so that money is going to kick in.

First party exclusives are paid for by corporations. They expect results for their money. They're held down by deadlines, quality and sales data. They need an audience and they're not given blank checks. They have to earn every cent. And if they don't cut it, they're cut loose.

A lot of these indies are really deluding themselves by fucking over their backers and customers over Epic welfare. They're going to have to constantly rely on Epic to pay for their games. And Epic's reputation is sinking lower with each new exclusive they acquire. I didn't think anything could be as bad as the Shenmue III debacle. This is far, far worse.

Even if you were an Epic user, would you buy this after seeing their attitude?
 
Delicious. Between the E3 dox and Ooblets it's a good weekend to be a gamer. Although Ooblets drama is the only thing allowed on 4chang atm, dox threads are haram but it's okay to bitch at soyboys shitting on their customers.
 
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C'mon guys, it isn't, like, the developers are wanting gamers to be gassed or anything. Right?
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Oh wait... :|
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People are really salty so I would not be surprised at the lengths they would go to make the Ooblets devs look worse by faking screenshots and even videos. Isn't it odd they'd be recording it as he typed that out as if they were waiting for him to say that? The Ooblets guy is not handling it great, but if the gassing thing was real, it would be a disaster.
 
People are calling this out as fake due to the really high WPM he had when typing it, as well as it not being present in the KF Discord log archive. I am slightly tempted to call bullshit, but at the same time...
That's an archive of the Epic-Chat channel. The recording is from the ooblets channel. Unless I'm blind and missed the archive of the entire discord
 
That's an archive of the Epic-Chat channel. The recording is from the ooblets channel. Unless I'm blind and missed the archive of the entire discord
Oh you're right! My mistake.
People are really salty so I would not be surprised at the lengths they would go to make the Ooblets devs look worse by faking screenshots and even videos. Isn't it odd they'd be recording it as he typed that out as if they were waiting for him to say that? The Ooblets guy is not handling it great, but if the gassing thing was real, it would be a disaster.
According to the guy who made the video, he found out he said it while he was AFK while recording the whole thing. Given the shitstorm before he said all that, it wouldn't surprise me if he lurked there and what he posted was just a snippet he cut out of a much longer video.
 
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We can logically think this through.

What does Shenmue III get Epic? People who bought it already have bought it. Nobody new is coming to your storefront. So that's a waste.

Ubi is only releasing on Epic and Uplay. You can use Uplay to get around this and many have Uplay and will work away around it. So that's not 100%.

These indies are costly ventures and aren't enough to convince people to move over from Steam. These are small scale games having their development budgets paid for.

Big titles might get people there....but only for those titles.

There's simply nothing encouraging people to stay on the storefront. Having people buy one or two games you poach is not enough, because you need that money back. With 12%, you need a ton of sales to even just break even.

The exclusive model is not unsustainable simply because of the massive bleed. I have no idea why the chinks aren't stomping him, but maybe they just agree or don't know the American market enough to know any better. Maybe they are selling data. Who knows. But exclusives aren't bringing the money, that's for sure.

I have a theory maybe not a maybe a bit to conspiratorial but a theory non the less. I think Epics guaranteed sales function as an advance payment of sorts. I think what might happen is that they sign a contrant they they will have atleast 100,000 copies sold (just for an example) but they wont make any money off game sales until 125,000 copies are sold. Epic the full price on 25,000 as intrest for an upfront payment. Developers might think of it as a A Bird in the Hand is Worth Two in the Bush scenario.

This is the only thing i can think of that would make logical seance from businesses stand point. If not then you are basically giving the developer double the profit for none of the benefit. Maybe Sweeney is just this out of touch.
 
This is the only thing i can think of that would make logical seance from businesses stand point. If not then you are basically giving the developer double the profit for none of the benefit. Maybe Sweeney is just this out of touch.

Sweeny is fully out of touch. He paid 2.5 million for that Fig game because one of the devs said even if every person refunded, the game would still be fine. The contracts might be tighter like that now, because these games obviously aren't selling, but before he was paying out full development budgets to games. The check he cut these guys was big enough to make the entire hobby detest these developers. If there was any risk that it might be lower, we wouldn't have seen this reaction.

I mean, we're talking about a guy who thinks developers are going to beat Steam in terms of 'store wars' and not the consumer. He's a fucktard autist who hasn't made a good game in decades (Fortnite doesn't count, its not a good game. He just got extremely fucking lucky).

Not to mention fucking MINECRAFT is beating Fortnite in player population now:


So even Fortnite is now possibly in trouble. I mean, maybe. Season X fucked over a lot of people. The problem is that he's autistically overconfident in his exclusive strategy. This isn't 2003 anymore. Exclusivity has been shrinking. Only really Sony and Nintendo do it. And even then, Sony exclusives have been shrinking. Nintendo is exclusivity is because its all first party. So he's implementing a strategy that's actually being slowly phased out and paying through the nose with no returns doing it.
 
The "gassing of gamers" video's been debunked for now, given there's no solid proof that the person didn't use a mix of Inspect Element/Javascript to properly mimic Discord's UI/alter the messages on a second screen while recording the website properly on the other one, with the supposed smoking gun being he was using the browser version to show this instead of the app.
 
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Hey guys, first time posting here. I've found this entire ooblets debacle fascinating, in particular the controversy surrounding this gas chamber comment.
Is it real? Is it fake?

To be quite honest I'd probably hedge my bets on fake. The devs post a lot of shit but this seems a little outlandish even for them.
With that said, after reviewing that video carefully I've yet to find anything in it that shows it to be faked.
I'm familiar enough with browser dev tools and the old inspect element tricks, and judging by some of the tweets about this subject so are some other people:

The second video is basically nothing, they're not even editing the right website.
The first video is a bit more interesting, demonstrating realtime edits of a discord post. However this is an edit made after the post was posted, you can see him scrolling up and down a chat history, he isn't witnessing posts being created anew.

So okay, we've seen it's easy enough to edit the webapp version of discord, but that doesn't guarantee the video is fake. Instead we should be looking for flaws in the video itself which prove without a doubt that someone crafted it.

The first point of interest is the timeline here.
There was originally the following screenshot of discord posted, and then maybe half a day or so later the video (https://files.catbox.moe/hatoh5.mkv) followed:
exhibit 1.png


If you compare the timestamps you see one is 12 hour clock format and the other is 24 hour format.
I'm not familiar enough with discord to know how this might come about, but looking through the app settings menu I can't see any indication of being able to freely change it.
So does this mean that these two posts were indeed posted by two different people?
Is it just one person, taking the care to edit the timestamps one of the times to be a different format?
And then the timelapse between posting - if you were able to fake the video, why not start with that instead of a screenshot?

Let's move on and talk about something that I've not seen mentioned anywhere else yet:
If you enter the discord server now and look back at this section of post history it turns out the dev's gas chamber post isn't the only one that's shown in the video that is missing from what you can see right now.
Just before his comment is a post made by LyndonHolland:
exhibit 2.jpg

If you search for posts by that user you can't find any, but considering how frequently the moderators there have been deleting posts that's not too surprising.

Now, this server has posts a message for every user that first joins it. Scroll back far enough in the introduce-yourself channel and you see this:
exhibit 3.jpg

Clicking on those names brings up their profile, and clicking on the mutual servers tab indicates that they're no longer present in this server.
The mass of posts by the same user (a bot) means we can't see the exact timestamp they arrived, but we can see that it was after 11:29 (easy for me, I share the same timezone as the vid does).
Scroll down a ways and you find the first post by a different user to have a timestamp of 13:11:
exhibit 4.jpg

So we can establish from what discord shows us right now that these two users were present in this server prior to the alleged gas chamber post made at 13:46

So what does this mean?
I'm honestly not sure what the significance of the LyndonHolland post is.
I can think of no reason for someone to fake its existence, but equally if it was deleted it was presumably deleted pretty quickly since it was posted whilst the dev was active in the same channel.
If it was posted pretty quickly, then the person faking this footage was presumably recording at the time events unfolded?
But if they created their fake video at the time, why did it take that much longer for the video to be posted after the screenshot?
Conversely, if the video was faked some time after the posts had been made, why would the faker have put that post in? How would they have known they should do so?

Let's move on and take a look at the history pane on the right of the video:
exhibit 5.jpg

The timestamps on it have timestamps from before the posts shown to be made in the video, so no contradiction there.
Discord searches don't update automatically so this can be achieved by searching for the dev's posts some time in the past and not being updated since, and of course the entire lot can be faked by editing the HTML too.
Suppose you were to go about faking it: you'd probably do the search, then navigate through the results until you found an entry before the supposed time the posts in the video are being made.
Having the scrollbar halfway down would be a bit suspicious, so you'd delete any entries that were too recent until your desired result is at the top.
Then maybe add some padding to the bottom to get that search bar to be a plausible length again.
But would you think to edit the result count?

At the time of writing this if I do a search for posts by perplamps it reports 8246 results.
I have to navigate to page 5 of the results, and on that page there are 12 results that come before the one shown at the top of the history in the video.
The pages each have 25 results, so if we do some math we can deduce that there are right now ((4 * 25) + 12)=112 results before you reach the result shown in the video.
If you subtract 112 from 8246 you get 8134 - which happens to be the results count displayed in the video.

From this was can deduce that whoever faked this video is at least as autistic as me right now or they used a completely legitimate search result when faking it.
It being a legitimate search result once again clashes somewhat with the fact this video was posted so much later on though.

A few more offhand observations:
The server now has a rules channel. The dev announced its creation at 18:46 on the same day the gas chamber post is supposedly made, and the video does not display this channel. Easy to fake mind you.

The video contains the new discord account tutorial tips animating throughout (the flashing yellow circle things) and the "several people are typing..." animated dots too.
It's not impossible somebody spliced together fragments of footage but it does mean it's more technically demanding than simply making a bunch of edited screenshots and making a slideshow.

There's a faint semi-transparent black line that sits at the top of the chat pane and overlays the posts as they scroll out of sight at the top.
As far as I can tell the video doesn't show any sign of this faint overlay looking wrong at any point.
This makes it unlikely that whoever made the video recorded some natural footage and then simply edited a small segment by moving some posts up and inserting the gas chamber one briefly, as this would fuck with the narrow overlay.

Okay, let's step this up a notch:

Here's a rough compilation of some of the posts surrounding the gas chamber one showing their timestamp in the video, and some caps of chrome dev tools indicating where to look for the exact timestamp discord has recorded for them:
exhibit 6.jpg


This image is just to give you a rough idea of what you're looking for if you want to verify the following claims I make:

The video displays the posts being made at:
00:05 - "but I recognize that-"
01:25 - "Am I allowed to post-"
01:49 - "I think it shows the-"
01:59 - "Dude... Some of those-"
02:23 - "@perplamps a few people-"

The time intervals between these are as follows:
80 seconds
24 seconds
10 seconds
24 seconds

The timestamps associated with these posts, derived from the page HTML, are as follows:
1564836260246
1564836339918
1564836364708
1564836373934
1564836398273

The difference between each of these, which is the time interval between these posts in milliseconds, are as follows:
79672 ms
24790 ms
9226 ms
24339 ms

Divide those by 1000 to bring them back to seconds...
79.6 seconds
24.7 seconds
9.2 seconds
24.3 seconds

We can see that the post time intervals in the video line up with what is observable to anyone who enters the discord right now.

So what does this all mean?

Throughout the above analysis we find the following inferences:
1. Even when examining the video in minute detail there are no apparent flaws
2. The video would be much easier to fake if it was recorded whilst the posts shown in it were actually made for real, with some trick somehow used to insert the gas chamber post
3. The video requires significantly more attention to detail and chronology if it was to be faked some time after the events shown in it transpired

If we return to one of the tweets at the start I linked where someone is claiming it is simple to insert a fake post HTML in realtime, let's consider the ins and outs of this:
- you get your fake post HTML ready
- you get the dev tools to navigated to the right elements where you need to insert your fake post
- you've got the cam rolling, HTML on the clipboard
- your moment comes, you edit the HTML and insert your fake post, causing it to appear on screen
- bingo!

Only, not quite:
- the video is of discord running in a variant of chrome
- the bar along the top of the chrome window changes colour when it loses focus, vice versa when it regains focus (if you alt tab it looks different)
- if you're not focused on discord then when a new message is posted it inserts that red line indicating which messages are new
- if you're not focused on discord then the "users are typing" animation doesn't animate

So much for that theory then.

In conclusion:
I'm still not sure the video is real.
I've yet to find anything that proves it is fake.
That guy on twitter hasn't thought this through.
If this video is fake it is most likely meticulously spliced together footage, which would also explain why it was posted much later than the screenshot.
(...but if it was made later then what about that LyndonHolland post..?)

What do you guys make of it?
 
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Hey guys, first time posting here. I've found this entire ooblets debacle fascinating, in particular the controversy surrounding this gas chamber comment.
Is it real? Is it fake?

To be quite honest I'd probably hedge my bets on fake. The devs post a lot of shit but this seems a little outlandish even for them.
With that said, after reviewing that video carefully I've yet to find anything in it that shows it to be faked.
I'm familiar enough with browser dev tools and the old inspect element tricks, and judging by some of the tweets about this subject so are some other people:

The second video is basically nothing, they're not even editing the right website.
The first video is a bit more interesting, demonstrating realtime edits of a discord post. However this is an edit made after the post was posted, you can see him scrolling up and down a chat history, he isn't witnessing posts being created anew.

So okay, we've seen it's easy enough to edit the webapp version of discord, but that doesn't guarantee the video is fake. Instead we should be looking for flaws in the video itself which prove without a doubt that someone crafted it.

The first point of interest is the timeline here.
There was originally the following screenshot of discord posted, and then maybe half a day or so later the video (https://files.catbox.moe/hatoh5.mkv) followed:
View attachment 876100

If you compare the timestamps you see one is 12 hour clock format and the other is 24 hour format.
I'm not familiar enough with discord to know how this might come about, but looking through the app settings menu I can't see any indication of being able to freely change it.
So does this mean that these two posts were indeed posted by two different people?
Is it just one person, taking the care to edit the timestamps one of the times to be a different format?
And then the timelapse between posting - if you were able to fake the video, why not start with that instead of a screenshot?

Let's move on and talk about something that I've not seen mentioned anywhere else yet:
If you enter the discord server now and look back at this section of post history it turns out the dev's gas chamber post isn't the only one that's shown in the video that is missing from what you can see right now.
Just before his comment is a post made by LyndonHolland:
View attachment 876101
If you search for posts by that user you can't find any, but considering how frequently the moderators there have been deleting posts that's not too surprising.

Now, this server has posts a message for every user that first joins it. Scroll back far enough in the introduce-yourself channel and you see this:
View attachment 876103
Clicking on those names brings up their profile, and clicking on the mutual servers tab indicates that they're no longer present in this server.
The mass of posts by the same user (a bot) means we can't see the exact timestamp they arrived, but we can see that it was after 11:29 (easy for me, I share the same timezone as the vid does).
Scroll down a ways and you find the first post by a different user to have a timestamp of 13:11:
View attachment 876105
So we can establish from what discord shows us right now that these two users were present in this server prior to the alleged gas chamber post made at 13:46

So what does this mean?
I'm honestly not sure what the significance of the LyndonHolland post is.
I can think of no reason for someone to fake its existence, but equally if it was deleted it was presumably deleted pretty quickly since it was posted whilst the dev was active in the same channel.
If it was posted pretty quickly, then the person faking this footage was presumably recording at the time events unfolded?
But if they created their fake video at the time, why did it take that much longer for the video to be posted after the screenshot?
Conversely, if the video was faked some time after the posts had been made, why would the faker have put that post in? How would they have known they should do so?

Let's move on and take a look at the history pane on the right of the video:
View attachment 876107
The timestamps on it have timestamps from before the posts shown to be made in the video, so no contradiction there.
Discord searches don't update automatically so this can be achieved by searching for the dev's posts some time in the past and not being updated since, and of course the entire lot can be faked by editing the HTML too.
Suppose you were to go about faking it: you'd probably do the search, then navigate through the results until you found an entry before the supposed time the posts in the video are being made.
Having the scrollbar halfway down would be a bit suspicious, so you'd delete any entries that were too recent until your desired result is at the top.
Then maybe add some padding to the bottom to get that search bar to be a plausible length again.
But would you think to edit the result count?

At the time of writing this if I do a search for posts by perplamps it reports 8246 results.
I have to navigate to page 5 of the results, and on that page there are 12 results that come before the one shown at the top of the history in the video.
The pages each have 25 results, so if we do some math we can deduce that there are right now ((4 * 25) + 12)=112 results before you reach the result shown in the video.
If you subtract 112 from 8246 you get 8134 - which happens to be the results count displayed in the video.

From this was can deduce that whoever faked this video is at least as autistic as me right now or they used a completely legitimate search result when faking it.
It being a legitimate search result once again clashes somewhat with the fact this video was posted so much later on though.

A few more offhand observations:
The server now has a rules channel. The dev announced its creation at 18:46 on the same day the gas chamber post is supposedly made, and the video does not display this channel. Easy to fake mind you.

The video contains the new discord account tutorial tips animating throughout (the flashing yellow circle things) and the "several people are typing..." animated dots too.
It's not impossible somebody spliced together fragments of footage but it does mean it's more technically demanding than simply making a bunch of edited screenshots and making a slideshow.

There's a faint semi-transparent black line that sits at the top of the chat pane and overlays the posts as they scroll out of sight at the top.
As far as I can tell the video doesn't show any sign of this faint overlay looking wrong at any point.
This makes it unlikely that whoever made the video recorded some natural footage and then simply edited a small segment by moving some posts up and inserting the gas chamber one briefly, as this would fuck with the narrow overlay.

Okay, let's step this up a notch:

Here's a rough compilation of some of the posts surrounding the gas chamber one showing their timestamp in the video, and some caps of chrome dev tools indicating where to look for the exact timestamp discord has recorded for them:
View attachment 876108

This image is just to give you a rough idea of what you're looking for if you want to verify the following claims I make:

The video displays the posts being made at:
00:05 - "but I recognize that-"
01:25 - "Am I allowed to post-"
01:49 - "I think it shows the-"
01:59 - "Dude... Some of those-"
02:23 - "@perplamps a few people-"

The time intervals between these are as follows:
80 seconds
24 seconds
10 seconds
24 seconds

The timestamps associated with these posts, derived from the page HTML, are as follows:
1564836260246
1564836339918
1564836364708
1564836373934
1564836398273

The difference between each of these, which is the time interval between these posts in milliseconds, are as follows:
79672 ms
24790 ms
9226 ms
24339 ms

Divide those by 1000 to bring them back to seconds...
79.6 seconds
24.7 seconds
9.2 seconds
24.3 seconds

We can see that the post time intervals in the video line up with what is observable to anyone who enters the discord right now.

So what does this all mean?

Throughout the above analysis we find the following inferences:
1. Even when examining the video in minute detail there are no apparent flaws
2. The video would be much easier to fake if it was recorded whilst the posts shown in it were actually made for real, with some trick somehow used to insert the gas chamber post
3. The video requires significantly more attention to detail and chronology if it was to be faked some time after the events shown in it transpired

If we return to one of the tweets at the start I linked where someone is claiming it is simple to insert a fake post HTML in realtime, let's consider the ins and outs of this:
- you get your fake post HTML ready
- you get the dev tools to navigated to the right elements where you need to insert your fake post
- you've got the cam rolling, HTML on the clipboard
- your moment comes, you edit the HTML and insert your fake post, causing it to appear on screen
- bingo!

Only, not quite:
- the video is of discord running in a variant of chrome
- the bar along the top of the chrome window changes colour when it loses focus, vice versa when it regains focus (if you alt tab it looks different)
- if you're not focused on discord then when a new message is posted it inserts that red line indicating which messages are new
- if you're not focused on discord then the "users are typing" animation doesn't animate

So much for that theory then.

In conclusion:
I'm still not sure the video is real.
I've yet to find anything that proves it is fake.
That guy on twitter hasn't thought this through.
If this video is fake it is most likely meticulously spliced together footage, which would also explain why it was posted much later than the screenshot.
(...but if it was made later then what about that LyndonHolland post..?)

What do you guys make of it?
I think it fake. According to the video the post stayed up for 49 seconds from 1:54 - 2:43. I don't believe a post like can be up for that long and not get a single reaction.
 
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