Erin Reed / Anthony Reed II / @ErinInTheMorn / @ErinInTheMorning / @ErinInTheNight / _supernovasky_ / beholderseye / realitybias / AnonymousRabbit - post-op transbian Twitter/TikTok "activist" with bad fashion, giant Reddit tattoo. Former drug dealer with felony. Married to Zooey Simone Zephyr / Zachary Todd Raasch.

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Surveys say the tranny population is around/less than 1%. The US has 300,000,000-ish people. If my math is correct (X) that means roughly 300,000 people here are trannies. For 260,000 people to have fled teh Natzees that would mean the vast majority of them live in a handful of states and have the financial resources to just up and move across the country. Most of the country lives paycheck to paycheck. We already know that troons are more likely to be unemployed or underemployed so the number Tony quotes is just ludicrous.
But dont you see?There's more trans people than that because being trans has become more acceptable...while also having people fleeing to other states from genocide?
 
For 260,000 people to have fled teh Natzees that would mean the vast majority of them live in a handful of states and have the financial resources to just up and move across the country.
I'm willing to say that the 260k includes the family members of trans people who have to or choose to move with them. For example a family of 4 with a trans kid who decided to move will be counted as 4 people in the tally. I believe that they did this to inflate the numbers.
 
but its also completely unneeded. apparently builimia barely existed until a paper was published about it. i'm not sure how true that is, as obviously it existed for a paper to be written about it. my point is, it became much more widespread in popular culture. just because we can't point to ancient bulimics (apart from maybe the classical nobles and their vomitoria) and its continuous history, doesn't mean bulimia doesn't exist. that would be a ridiculous claim.

so i just don't see the point in these types of arguments. historical precedent is not a necessary condition for validity.
To some extent it sorta is.

The argument would be that if the illness is with modern society and not the individual, then curing society would be less harmful. You can really only justify these sorts of outrageous hormonal and surgical interventions for a solely psychological condition if troonery is a permanent, intractable feature of humanity. If troonery is just some disorder some people have always had since caveman days, then it's just something we need to tolerate by any means necessary. The argument for gender treatments become much stronger in that case.

Eating disorders are my goto example for exactly that reason. They're really a modern invention of today's society, not something that we just have to tolerate. We don't hand out diet pills to teenagers struggling with body image issues because we do know it's possible to have a society without eating disorders.
 
If troonery is just some disorder some people have always had since caveman days, then it's just something we need to tolerate by any means necessary. The argument for gender treatments become much stronger in that case

i see what you mean but sorta think its the opposite way round. if troonery is something that has existed since caveman days, they were doing just fine til they started to screech about it.

but i understand that troons can't take that position, and admitting that they are a product of the over pornified self obsessed segment of society they hail from wouldn't exactly be a good look.
 
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This is an interesting tweet to me because it further illustrates what a total and complete conartist Tony is.

How can the troons be experiencing a "genocide" if they can purportedly just ignore the laws they don't like?
 
I don’t need a scientist to tell me that a guy is going to regret chopping his dick off or a girl is going to regret chopping her tits off. It’s just a matter of common sense.
Imagine the idiot retard world we're living in where "dude maybe cutting off your dick because someone on tumblr told you to is a bad idea and you might regret it" is hate speech instead of stating the obvious.
 
If troonery is just some disorder some people have always had since caveman days, then it's just something we need to tolerate by any means necessary. The argument for gender treatments become much stronger in that case.
This may sound crazy, but since TRAs compare being trans to being homosexual then shouldn't we be seeing examples of other mammals that show signs of being trans?I'm not talking about animals who may have biological conditions such as hermaphrodites, but for example a male monkey that has a female brain since TRAs use the brain argument to claim trans is a real biological thing.We have cases of animals who engage in homosexual behavior, yet not one example of some male monkey that acts like a female?If trans is something that's biological then how is it only human beings that experience it and why dont we see it in any other mammals like we do with homosexuality,etc?
 
This may sound crazy, but since TRAs compare being trans to being homosexual then shouldn't we be seeing examples of other mammals that show signs of being trans?I'm not talking about animals who may have biological conditions such as hermaphrodites, but for example a male monkey that has a female brain since TRAs use the brain argument to claim trans is a real biological thing.We have cases of animals who engage in homosexual behavior, yet not one example of some male monkey that acts like a female?If trans is something that's biological then how is it only human beings that experience it and why dont we see it in any other mammals like we do with homosexuality,etc?
Well and when we do observe funky behavior in animals like that, we can tie it more or less straightforwardly to things like hormonal imbalances. The cure for which is (sex appropriate) hormonal supplementation. If a monkey is behaving like a limp dick because he's got monkey ball cancer, the diagnosis is trivial (blood tests) and the treatment is straightforward (testosterone supplementation).

Nothing about troonery has any kind of medical precedent like that. It's pure religion.

It's complete nonsense unless you believe in gendered souls. And if you do, sure, whatever, but whatever religious practices you want to engage in based on that, pay for it yourself.

As it stands, it's illegal in my state to offer health insurance that doesn't cover troonery and it's required for me to pay for health insurance.
 
I think it reflects his emotional state when confronted with an argument he doesn't like: he doesn't consider its merits and consider whether it means he should re-evaluate his position; he just seethes.
I thought he was relishing thr chance to use the same argument his enemies used against him, but with extra condescention. I'M right now, faggot.

More studies are published every year, and almost none add any reliable data to our collective knowledge.
Ironicallt trans people should be screaming and pushing for better studies if they want to keep people in the community healthy and live longer but lol.

this is part of what boggles my mind about gender cultists. willingness to debate is not giving ground, it just shows that you have thought about your position and are willing to argue about it. unwillingness to debate makes it looks like you have no ground to give, which in this case is true but given how many true believers there seem to be you'd think they'd at least attempt.
Ok, AirdropShitposts gave an intelligent argument over the academic and debate portion of why they don't. And I appreciate that, but I'm also going to argue something a bit harsher:

Every single trans person is fucking mentally ill.

I mean that you cannot find a trans person without one or more of the following: depression, anxiety, ocd, autism, adhd, bipolar, a personality disorder, or other mental hangup. And even if you find the trans person who is relatively sane, the number of people with ok to poor people skills in the transdom dwarfs any who has decent to good ones.

Many of the people are online for a reason: they are worse at talking in person to people than to someone behind a screen. They form communities with rules that keep them protected from the outside world, people declare rules on how debates should and shouldn't go with emotions and social issues ("None of our existences are up for debate!"), they set up social rules that aren't conductive for debate. Now, online, you'll meet trans people willing to barge in and argue poorly to most things: mention lesbians don't like dick and your twitter is full of picrew and anime avatars telling you you're wrong. If you don't like it, popular consensus already decided you're a bigot, and bigots are so stupid they'll deny trans people's words so trans people have to start calling them names because OBVIOUSLY why bother when they ask you obvious questions ("but if you can't change your sexuality how does this happen?") already answered. And they'll get upvotes and likes because these trans people are right and have an audience who says they're right, just look at their likes! And if you don't agree, to the mods with you for making the community feel unsafe.

Most of the above crumple like tissue paper when talked to IRL. They have anxiety or know that they're not surrounded by fair weather but totally happy to asspat your post friendship communities. They shrink away, claim they were hiding from people who could hurt them IRL, say their depression got the better of them, and so on. It's much less mentally stressful when you don't have people staring at you, wheb you don't hear the voice tone, when no kbe takes up space but you.

Those who don't shy away from trans debate however are usually, um, not the best. Narcissists and Borderlines want a preforming audience with a pantomime villain who is easy to defeat to boost their ego, autistic people can be the most stubbon people on earth even when they're facing the K-2 of evidence piled against them and refuse to back down, overemotional or obsessive people can break down and cry or start slinging insults if they get provoked into a state of self hate by a comment and have to protect themselves, and so on. There's also the troons who came to riot and want a classic heros vs villains battle where the heros murder everyone and everyone cheers.

And a lot believe they're not arguing for a whole group or concept, but for themselves. If a religious person took every comment you said about religion that was negative to heart, they'd be told they need to separate themselves from the church. Trans people aren't like that: trans people ARE trans. There's no separation, the single person is all trans people, the single person's life revolves soley around trans, and every bad thing you say about trans is a bad thing you say about the single person personally. It's like those fandom people who chimp out when you say the show they love isn't that good.

I'm trying to say it's a group of people who collectively cannot communicate with others well by definition. People who can debate are rare and are still pressured by the community not to appear on things as not to be a traitor. Even those who aren't disuade by others know that arguing trans things is much harder than trans people think it is, as cis people just don't understand or had the enlightening trans people did about the father, son, and holy gender. It's an anxious community afraid the sky is falling right fucking now with only days away before Ron DeSatanis and Herr Trump come knocking on their door to drag them to troonschiwtz without warning.

TL;DR mental illness and online circlejerks hellbent on rule control ran by fellow mentally ill people keeps troons from having any real progress.

This is actually a really good argument. How many vaginas can a human have? Can I have 2 vaginas? Can I have 10? The obvious answer for women is one, with the other obvious answer being zero for trannies.
There's so many porn brained troons that want multiple genitals that it's not worth having the argument of. They want their sex fantasy and that's that for them. Transhumanism now now NOW!!!!

When we're done discussing "what is a woman", we can move on to "what is a vagina"
What is a vagina? A miserable shallow hole of secrets!

Maybe the real vaginas were all the holes we made along the way.
I'm so glad to be with amfrens. :)

How can the troons be experiencing a "genocide" if they can purportedly just ignore the laws they don't like?
I'm trying to think of a snarky comment that shows trans logic but I think the answer is that trans people have the attention span of a goldfish and live moment to moment.

If trans is something that's biological then how is it only human beings that experience it and why dont we see it in any other mammals like we do with homosexuality,etc?
My guess is that some would argue that the concept of gender is too high for most other animals. Like, it's an enlightenment most humans haven't achieved yet.

Never seen this one before but what a bunch of ugly people. Is funny how Drennen claims he never uses filters.
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Isn't it nice when you're usually the tallest in the group but fortunately you found some even taller people to make you look normal height in comparison?
 
Never seen this one before but what a bunch of ugly people. Is funny how Drennen claims he never uses filters.

I'm honestly surprised Ari doesn't have a thread. He honestly feels like a pysop to be the new Charlotte Clymer. Was involved in politics/media pre-trooning out and now suddenly popping up everywhere. Every week he posts of picture of his face with a caption saying something along the lines of saying "Transphobes say I look like a man" and the a bunch of mentally ill freaks give him ass pats.

I will say Ari is the best dresser and has the best makeup, but it's a bit like getting gold at the Special Olympics.
 
I'm honestly surprised Ari doesn't have a thread. He honestly feels like a pysop to be the new Charlotte Clymer. Was involved in politics/media pre-trooning out and now suddenly popping up everywhere. Every week he posts of picture of his face with a caption saying something along the lines of saying "Transphobes say I look like a man" and the a bunch of mentally ill freaks give him ass pats.

I will say Ari is the best dresser and has the best makeup, but it's a bit like getting gold at the Special Olympics.
I agree that Ari is definitely the best dresser and at make up of the trans activist in that group. No amount of make or clothes can fix Tony, Zac or Finkle.
 
Never seen this one before but what a bunch of ugly people. Is funny how Drennen claims he never uses filters.
Even on the rare occasions a troon might stand a chance of passing, if you were extremely drunk, retarded and nearly blind, the AGP duper's delight smirk always gives these perverts away.
 
"where I show how we've already seen 130-260,000 transgender people flee"

So we've "already seen" a population with a 100% error bar (Tony, you'll have to explain this to Alex) flee states to others thousands of miles away but only a handful of named public examples none of whom actually had to flee and two of which were actually custody cases. And even though we have zero public examples of any troons fleeing Florida despite it "banning" their care completely by having Medicaid cut it off, and we have actually at least three examples of you, Zac and Alex all traveling there recently despite the warnings. And the other Zach (Zinnia Jones) hasn't fled the state and has actually appeared in public to ramble at a town council or something despite having publicly declared war on the state government. But we have a refugee crisis that literally nobody else has noticed and there seems to be zero evidence of.

I know I've mentioned it in other threads but I don't know if I have in here for you to see, Tony, but have you ever heard of the concept of revealed preferences?
 
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This is an interesting tweet to me because it further illustrates what a total and complete conartist Tony is.

How can the troons be experiencing a "genocide" if they can purportedly just ignore the laws they don't like?

Dictators hate her! See how this brave transwoman defeats totalitarianism with this one weird trick!
 
I haven't. I mean, Tony hasn't. Explain it like I'm Tony's five.
Someone talks to you about how much they hate McDonalds, but they buy a "small amount" of McDonalds everyday for at least one meal. (See also: boycotting Montana while talking about moving there to live with your new wife.)
 
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