Erin Reed / Anthony Reed II / @ErinInTheMorn / @ErinInTheMorning / @ErinInTheNight / _supernovasky_ / beholderseye / realitybias / AnonymousRabbit - post-op transbian Twitter/TikTok "activist" with bad fashion, giant Reddit tattoo. Former drug dealer with felony. Married to Zooey Simone Zephyr / Zachary Todd Raasch.

[TaimuRadiu]

"Eonism" was a term invented by Havelock Ellis in the 1920s, because he thought Magnus Hirschfeld's use of the term "transvestism" did not adequately convey a meaning of cross-dressing without an obvious sexual motive. He discusses this in the first part of Studies in the psychology of sex. Vol. VII, which you can read online for yourself.

Hart is starting to get to the period of time, from roughly the 1920s or 1930s, where modern transsexualism begins, so it's possible that Hart would have — if asked in today's terms — consided herself "transgender". But the evidence does not support much more than Hart being a butch lesbian, as you'll see if you read the post I quoted earlier. As for "medical transition", Hart had a hysterectomy because she did not want to become pregnant. Some articles (from the past 10 years or so) claim that Hart took testosterone to appear more masculine, but without citing any sources. (Testosterone was approved in the US for medical use in 1939, and Hart died in 1962 aged 71, so it's possible but, again, no proof.)

If you come to the thread and want to claim a historical figure was "transgender" as we now understand the term, you should come with more than just an assertion.

I saw that term dating back to the 19th century. Also Hart had a hysterectomy and took T and took a male name.. that's literally being a tranny.

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No, they were not. Troonery cannot exist before the modalities that facilitate troonery were invented. Those did not arrive until the 1930s. At best they were transvestites.

I suppose by that same logic gravity couldn't exist until Newton discovered it.

 

[Candidae]

I saw that term dating back to the 19th century. Also Hart had a hysterectomy and took T and took a male name.. that's literally being a tranny.


I suppose by that same logic gravity couldn't exist until Newton discovered it.

Most historical females calling themselves males took jobs women could not otherwise have and many were lesbians. Society wouldn't let them be women in careers, nor get married to women especially.
Yes there are TIFs who transition for this reason too, but this is linked with homophobic areas, 3rd world misogynistic shitholes, and dysphoric lesbians who aren't told to accept themselves but to accept troonism (most dysphoric kids are gay, many gay kids are dysphoric, and prior to troonism they'd grow out of it). This isn't analogous to being a tranny by any modern context. These women are simply disguising themselves in order to live the life they'd want. It's ridiculous to assume in a world where women wouldn't have to do these things for a career and a wife that any and all of them would.
Hysterectomies were secretly done on lots of women who wanted freedom before the age of the BC pill, and lesbians tend to associate it with men wanting to breed them so even today lesbians wish to remove it. As for T, if true, who can say it wasn't just part of her disguise. If anything it's more of a leap that these people took testosterone to help dysphoria vs to help look like men and hide better. With the historical context you just cannot directly associate your modern Tiffany to ancient Lesbian Mulans. A trope so common through history there's even the famous Chinese story. Mulan is far more similar to these women than Buck Angel or anyone else

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

I saw that term dating back to the 19th century. Also Hart had a hysterectomy and took T and took a male name.. that's literally being a tranny.


I suppose by that same logic gravity couldn't exist until Newton discovered it.

Your retarded stance is no different than asserting that modern automobiles existed before the gasoline engine was invented.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

@Candidae

Everything I've read about Hart syncs up with a transman's psychological profile. Alternatively, it could be a lot of butch lesbians were just wannabe transmen; there's been a marked decrease in butches in the past 20 years. There definitely were lesbians living with each at that time; Portland was considered to be relatively liberal then, as now, and Hart got his degree there - look up the term "Boston marriage," it was a popular euphemism. The medical degree was in a male name and Hart insisted on being referred to as a male name since high school. Not typical for someone who was just a lesbian.

Your retarded stance is no different than asserting that modern automobiles existed before the gasoline engine was invented.

Not really considering general psychological conditions happen and mirror their way thruout human history. Are you going to claim that schizophrenics never existed too?

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Once

@Candidae

Everything I've read about Hart syncs up with a transman's psychological profile. Alternatively, it could be a lot of butch lesbians were just wannabe transmen; there's been a marked decrease in butches in the past 20 years. There definitely were lesbians living with each at that time; Portland was considered to be relatively liberal then, as now, and Hart got his degree there - look up the term "Boston marriage," it was a popular euphemism. The medical degree was in a male name and Hart insisted on being referred to as a male name since high school. Not typical for someone who was just a lesbian.


Not really considering general psychological conditions happen and mirror their way thruout human history. Are you going to claim that schizophrenics never existed too?

Are you really too stupid to understand that you cannot have a whole until you have all of the parts? The essential components of troonery did not exist before 1938.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Once

Are you really too stupid to understand that you cannot have a whole until you have all of the parts? The essential components of troonery did not exist before 1938.

"all of the parts"

Hon, there have been AMAB transitioning to the female role in society as best they could since ancient Sumer. Are you severely autistic?

 

[Candidae]

Alternatively, it could be a lot of butch lesbians were just wannabe transmen;

Ok no
Butch lesbians are not trying to be men and the decrease is caused by trans madness erasing them, not the other way around

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Ok no
Butch lesbians are not trying to be men and the decrease is caused by trans madness erasing them, not the other way around

If you dress as a man and demand to be called by a male name, you're someone who wants to be a man. Especially past 1975 or so; in the time of Hart there were women getting medical degrees, feminism was definitely A Thing, etc.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Pretty sure Tony has said that this was not happening at all.



Tony's head is filled full of mush.

There is no "she" in this story.

 

[Geranium]

There is no "she" in this story.

It's not always the case that a trans-identified male athlete would be relatively mediocre when compared to others of his sex, but it does seem to be the case with A B Hernandez.

Had he competed in the male events, he would have come last in the long jump, and would not have made the cut for the high jump qualifier. In the triple jump, his score in the final event would have put him 26th in the boys' qualifier.

2025 CIF State Championships results

High jump:


Long jump:


Triple jump:


I highly recommend people check out boysvswomen.com if you want to see how the best high-school boys compare against world-class female athletes.

Edit: Here are the boysvswomen.com comparisons for the three events above:


To put a point on it, this is a comparison between the best female athletes in the world at the 2016 Olympics, versus the best male children in the United States at the 2016 version of a yearly event.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Electing cross dressing retards never rocks.

 

[Necrosan]

-lego rainbow earrings video-

I don't think they realize that this is merely the cusp of the pushback against trannydom. It took years for them to reach their peak and even more years to fatigue the normies enough to get to where we are now.

It will be interesting to see how the "resistance" looks like a couple of years from now.

 

[glioblastoma multiforme]

If you dress as a man and demand to be called by a male name, you're someone who wants to be a man.

This is simply untrue. Isabelle Eberhardt, a personal hero of mine, dressed like a man and took a male name so that she could enter Sufi sects from which women were barred. She was a straight cis woman.

I don't know the particular person you're arguing about, but your entire argument seems to miss the fact that historically, women were excluded from many contexts. IF you wanted to be a doctor, for instance, then you were shit outta luck if you were a woman. If you could convincingly pass as a man, you could have a fruitful career. An example is in this thread somewhere but I'm too tired to look now.

You're also ignoring the generally regressive environment women were in, or should I say vastly more regressive than today. See, for example, this

‘the husband and wife are one person in law: that is, the very being or legal existence of the woman is suspended during her marriage, or at least is incorporated or consolidated into that of her husband, under whose wing, protection and cover, she performs everything.’


... . In effect, a woman surrendered her legal existence on marriage.

... Married women held the same legal status as criminals, minors and the insane.

Post-1882 the possibility of success in the campaign for women’s suffrage
was greatly improved, since one powerful argument against it — that a married
woman was simply an extension of her husband, so that married men would in
effect have two votes— was now made less plausible.

Married women in the UK could not own property in their own right until 1882. Many of the supposed historically trans men were just trying to identify out of the suffocating, crippling bullshit imposed on women by the laws and culture of the time.

Sorry for the OT sperg but this triggered my autism.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Gap Toothed fan fiction blogger has opinions about "real journalism"

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Isabelle Eberhardt, a personal hero of mine, dressed like a man and took a male name so that she could enter Sufi sects from which women were barred. She was a straight cis woman.

Did she take T, cut off her breasts and get a hysterectomy too? Why was she forcing herself into male spaces, esp male religious spaces?

I don't know the particular person you're arguing about, but your entire argument seems to miss the fact that historically, women were excluded from many contexts. IF you wanted to be a doctor, for instance, then you were shit outta luck if you were a woman.

Not true in the context of 1917 Portland Oregon.

Many of the supposed historically trans men were just trying to identify out of the suffocating, crippling bullshit imposed on women by the laws and culture of the time.

Did they also take T, cut off their breasts and get hysterectomies done? There are levels of this and once you get to that level people are just going to think you have the psychological profile of a transman, because it syncs up to that.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

Did she take T, cut off her breasts and get a hysterectomy too? Why was she forcing herself into male spaces, esp male religious spaces?


Not true in the context of 1917 Portland Oregon.


Did they also take T, cut off their breasts and get hysterectomies done? There are levels of this and once you get to that level people are just going to think you have the psychological profile of a transman, because it syncs up to that.

You are stepping on a rake again. Testosterone was not synthesized until 1935 and not approved for human use until 1939.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

You are stepping on a rake again. Testosterone was not synthesized until 1935 and not approved for human use until 1939.

Hart certainly took it after it became available. People were also injecting dried bovine and goat testicles dating back to the 1890s knowing what was in them.

 

[glioblastoma multiforme]

Did she take T, cut off her breasts and get a hysterectomy too? Why was she forcing herself into male spaces, esp male religious spaces?

I was quoting your exact words stating the sufficient conditions for categorising a trans man. Don't move the goalposts.

According to here Oregon in the 20s was looking to ban same sex relationships and sterilise people who engaged in them and cross-dressing was considered degeneracy. So I'm not sure why you think being in Portland in 1917 strengthens your point.

 

[Geranium]

Tony blocked 14 people, mostly other trans-identified men, during the recent spat on Bluesky over his fearmongering and not crediting others:

List of accounts Tony has blocked on Bluesky. (I've removed a couple of accounts probably blocked for other reasons.)

A lot of troons noticed that Tony was not blocking "cis" men who called him out, such as the Washington DC bureau chief for the Independent newspaper, to whom Tony claimed it was all due to a "personal vendetta":

Bluesky (archive)

Tony seems to have blocked a lot of people who replied to a post saying "follow Katelyn [Kyle] Burns", and who suggested that people also follow the people Tony hadn't credited. Most of those replies didn't even criticise Tony, but clearly they stung his narcissistic injury.

Funnily enough, Kyle noticed Tony's behaviour, just replying with "Christ":

Bluesky (archive)

Edit: Tony blocked Mira Lazine. Since it's likely he won't appear in the thread again, let's see him off by admiring some selfies he posted recently:

i think i need to update my pfp - i was hanging out with @storster.bsky.social and she pointed out how my face has changed in the past 9 or so months.first pic is the pfp from september, second is from more early may, third is from about a week ago.the differences are so stark omg

In order these are from September 2024, April/May 2025, and May/June 2025:


You can tell the hormones are working because the head-tilt angle is getting more pronounced. But also…

 

[Dr. Butt]

Hahaha I bet Tony was a fire-and-brimstone preacher back when he was a deacon, too.