🍗 Deathfat Eugenia Cooney - Youtube's Reigning uwu Cute, Emo ana-chan Supreme, had a child molester for a discord moderator

[Plus Size Polka]

Re: deplatforming Eugenia

It wouldn’t be anything new, just a return to before the EvErYoNe iS BeAuTiFuL bullshit took off, at least as far as anas are concerned.

The internet was the wild west back in the 90’s and early 2000’s but pro-ana content was not allowed anywhere - browsers nuked it as fast as it appeared - and the skellies had to hide in deep dark corners and use codewords to have their snackless online gatherings.

If the bones get put back in the catacombs, fine with me.

 

[4090 Chad]

Is there any specific reason Eugenia absolutely has to be on TikTok? Why can’t she go back to twitch, YouTube, or fuck even Kick?

Regardless, if she isn’t online where she can fish for attention, sympathy, and be fetish bait for creeps, I think her condition will rapidly deteriorate as she loses any will and energy to continue to live.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Holy shit, that docket is fully six times as long as Greer v. Moon (which has been going on five years).

It's many different cases that at some point or another have been thrown (28 U.S.C. 1407) into this one due to similar facts and claims. That's why the docket is so big and why there are so many complaints

 

[Meiwaku]

I'm happy to concede I'm mistaken, but you'll have to elaborate about 'triggering', because in my mind, it refers to people who remember or are reliving eating disorders who are disturbed by the physical results and have regained a degree of discipline.

I'm glad because I really don't want to have a slap fight over a Lich.

Basically seeing ana content can be mildly #triggering unironically for people who used to be/are recovering anas. This is likely the type of content they looked at for thinspo. This is also likely the aspirations they had.

The your might realize that it's not healthy or sustainable but that doesn't stop you from doing stupid shit. This is true even in people who are not anorexic or otherwise mentally ill. You might still drink or get drunk to have fun even though you know it's objectively not that good for you. You might still stay up too late even though you know you have to go to work or school in the morning and that this will backfire and you will be very tired. People who are recovering from eating disorders will often intentionally or accidentally look at material that mentally stimulates those feelings even if they KNOW they shouldn't be looking at it.

-+-+-+-+-+-
Once again, deplatforming somebody is massively gay unless they are committing a crime. A woman starving herself to death is sad but she's a grown ass woman even though she's in arrested development and kept like Hasan's dog by her mother.

There's other women and twinks who are far worse offenders of being pro eating disorder compared to Eugenia. She just happens to be the most famous.

I also know there's a famous argument on why not take away death fats if you're taking away Anas? My number one argument basically boils down to because nobody wants to fucking be fat lol.

 

[Battery Low]

I don't even really think of her as "pro ana" tbh. She just exists whilst being freakishly thin.

She's clearly starving to death but not giving tips, numbers etc.

Aside from "showing it off", which is next to impossible NOT to do at that size, and catering to fetishists (which countless e thots also do, and much more blatantly). She's just kind of existing at the same time as being visibly crazy.

She knows she's starving herself, we know she's starving herself. She knows we know and vice versa. But I don't see her as promoting it beyond refusing to either hide entirely or issue some kind of "don't be like me" disclaimer (which if you're that retarded that you'd hypothetically need to be told that starving yourself to death isn't great, then maybe you deserve your fate).

 

[Plus Size Polka]

I don't even really think of her as "pro ana" tbh. She just exists whilst being freakishly thin.

She's clearly starving to death but not giving tips, numbers etc.

Aside from "showing it off", which is next to impossible NOT to do at that size, and catering to fetishists (which countless e thots also do, and much more blatantly). She's just kind of existing at the same time as being visibly crazy.

She knows she's starving herself, we know she's starving herself. She knows we know and vice versa. But I don't see her as promoting it beyond refusing to either hide entirely or issue some kind of "don't be like me" disclaimer (which if you're that retarded that you'd hypothetically need to be told that starving yourself to death isn't great, then maybe you deserve your fate).

The body checking in skimpy clothes, the blue butterflies… all coded pro-ana content. She knows what she’s doing and she’s encouraging that shit.

 

[Shartavius]

Eugenia acts from the knowledge that her physique is the only reason she receives attention; with her body as the product her streams advertise. I blame TikTok for distracting her from her true calling as a mighty draugr.

 

[DominoPetachi]

Every time our little draugr returns to Disney World, she appears to somehow be living with even less moisture in her vacuum-sealed-bag-of-candles body than she did the last time. I see her and think: If she was run over by a steamroller, it would just spread crumbs, dryer lint, and flour everywhere.

I haven’t laughed that hard in a while. The visuals, mang, the visuals.

 

[Lentil Soup]

Despite all of this , deplatforming her is massively gay.

Agreed, sick people still have the right to speak. Back when Eugenia was still on Twitch she would occasionally address the accusations (albeit pretty weakly) that she was trying to encourage pro-ana and pretty consistently denied it. Watching her mental decline on there was pretty horrifying and probably serves the public interest in its own way just for awareness of what this shit is like.

She is clearly not mentally well equipped, and her family is more interested in milking her for cash while slowly killing her than helping her recover from the brainstorms she has.

There's been speculation for a long time about her fucked up family dynamics, but we can confidently say money isn't the issue and her dad would still be loaded regardless of whatever Eugenia was up to. My impression has always been that Eugenia just treated donations on Twitch/Tik Tok like more of a popularity score.

 

[Lvkester Endorser]

Ah ok, if the scary skeleton who is actively killing herself while doing everything she can not to cover her disgusting skelly body while making tiktoks SAYS she is not glorifying anorexia, then it must be true! Come on...

 

[nopasta]

are we really debating the anorexia thing after so many years? Really? She doesn't'promote'' anorexia directly (obviously), it's not like she's going to the camera and saying: omg guuuys please don't eat uwu be skinnniii like meee!
But Egugenia is very aware she has an ed, she revels in it and the attention only fuels her dissorder (plus her family), anorexia is a very competitive illness and by getting all those worried comments it only perpetuates her ed. She KNOWS her mere body triggers other: people who suffer from ana/mia and use her as thinspo, the ones who are recovering and seeing her malnourished body can make them relapse, and normal people who are horrified at her appearance. But all those worried comments on her content and all those yt videos speaking about how bad she's doing and how she's gonna die soon only translates to one thing in her mind: I'm doing great, I'm the skelly queen and no one else can beat me at this game.
Plus shes getting attention and money, her only way of living is by triggering others and getting pay to do so

 

[Lentil Soup]

Ah ok, if the scary skeleton who is actively killing herself while doing everything she can not to cover her disgusting skelly body while making tiktoks SAYS she is not glorifying anorexia, then it must be true! Come on...

Idk, when it comes to what can be allowed as free speech I think that there's a just line between actively and explicitly promoting it versus just posting while being anorexic. Like, by that logic, we should be cracking down on people with addiction issues like Venus Angelic for glorifying that too.

 

[KittiestKitty]

If social media platforms are going to set an example with Eugenia, then it needs to be done across the board with all of the fatties and everyone else that is disfigured to the point where it causes a visceral reaction from the viewer. IDK about anyone else, but seeing Eugenia for the very first time was quite jarring to me. She is very unsettling to look at in general, and who wants to be jump scared like that on a daily basis? But if they are going to go after Eugenia, they need to deplatform those stuffing themselves to death, and burn victims, because those are horrific things to look at too. Where do you draw the line on who gets to use a platform due to how they act and/or look? It is a slippery slope.

 

[Lentil Soup]

If social media platforms are going to set an example with Eugenia, then it needs to be done across the board with all of the fatties and everyone else that is disfigured to the point where it causes a visceral reaction from the viewer.

A lot of the deathfats arguably do more damage from directly and explicitly promoting their distorted version of HAES as well. It's hard to reconcile saying that that is allowed as free speech whereas Eugenia's actual words are fairly minor dogwhistles like the blue butterflies at worst.

Like I'm a millennial female so I get the harm that thinspo can do but when it comes to developing actual law and policy it seems indefensible to target Eugenia over other bad influences.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

it seems indefensible to target Eugenia over other bad influences.

If Eugenia is banned from posting anywhere for encouraging anorexia, then BossmanJack should be banned from the entire internet for encouraging gambling, since watching one of his streams could probably trigger a gambling addict. Or we could just allow adults to decide what kind of material they want to expose themselves to on the internet, and recognize that "Tiktok/Twitch/etc made me do it" is a weak excuse for ruining your own life. Nigga just uninstall the app if it's fucking up your recovery. Some former addicts need to cut people out of their lives that they've known forever because those people are bad influences. Not using certain websites because they keep putting skellies on your feed and you're a former skelly is a no-brainer.

 

[Meiwaku]

Re: deplatforming Eugenia

It wouldn’t be anything new, just a return to before the EvErYoNe iS BeAuTiFuL bullshit took off, at least as far as anas are concerned.

The internet was the wild west back in the 90’s and early 2000’s but pro-ana content was not allowed anywhere - browsers nuked it as fast as it appeared - and the skellies had to hide in deep dark corners and use codewords to have their snackless online gatherings.

If the bones get put back in the catacombs, fine with me.

Okay this is not true.

It was very big and unrestricted on Myspace for a while. There was also a time that Tumblr was very loose on it as long as you said that you were not promoting anything despite clearly promoting it lol. Vampire Freaks also had a plethora of this type of thing just because there's a shit ton of overlap between alternative girls and anorexia Because basically all of the really cool clothing back then was catered to the same supermodel body. If you wore Lip Service clothing (which by the way is all created by a twink fag who calls women fish) Your size XL or even L back then was probably the equivalent of like a modern
M. They essentially had 00, 0, 2, 4, 6, 8 And these are the 2000s versions of these sizes. Why is this tangent relevant? Well VF always had (and still has) a store attatched to it which sold merch from goth brands....and the models picked for it? Skellies.

The old admin of Vampire Freaks was always a little bit sus in the types of girls that he likes where he very much so still likes the anachan girls who are barely legal. They were always the type of girls that he picked to model everything in his store even though he was a grown ass man in his 40s with a child and a divorce at the time. So he basically allowed a lot of this stuff but otherwise would have gotten a thumbs down. I can guarantee you he would have absolutely fucked (younger) Eugenia and it's likely why he let Anachan shit go unscathed on his site.

ED support forms used to be called pro Ana forums. Just like the farms, they have been relegated to xenforo. They just had to kind of rebrand because they cater to recovering and non-recovering as kind of a reach-around and all member profiles or #triggering shit is for members only. It is still like this to this day.

Even now, skellys hide in the closets of the internet and find community. Like-minded people will ALWAYS find one another. I'd say just let them have a mentally ill platform to sperg on and stop shitting up other sites with ana content.

 

[Drive-by Farts]

For what it’s worth Eugenia doesn’t overtly promote her disorder. She should not be deplatformed. I honestly don’t think many people should be, especially if it’s over the “vibe” they give off. It’s a slippery slope!

What should happen is she should be forcibly committed to an institution. This is extremely difficult to do in America today, so steps need to be taken to make it easier to commit people for all kinds of mental illnesses.

 

[TokiBun]

For what it’s worth Eugenia doesn’t overtly promote her disorder. She should not be deplatformed. I honestly don’t think many people should be, especially if it’s over the “vibe” they give off. It’s a slippery slope!

What should happen is she should be forcibly committed to an institution. This is extremely difficult to do in America today, so steps need to be taken to make it easier to commit people for all kinds of mental illnesses.

Agreed. It's like saying we should ban people from platforms for looking disfigured or ugly. If parents think Eugenia can't be on TikTok then they better start bitching and moaning about deathfats promoting obesity. They won't because double standards but still.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

Yeaaaahh I’m gonna guess something a little worse than being groped happened to her at some point.

No one wants to pursue a conservatorship over her. Her mom seems to like having Eugenia be dependent on her. If Eugenia’s mom doesn’t want her to become an independent adult, and Eugenia doesn’t want to be an independent adult, then Eugenia will never be an independent adult. Some people just want to Grey Gardens their way through life.

Eugenia won't be making it to a grey gardens level age nor will Debb.

You never heard of Twiggy? A ‘70s model famed for her thinness? In the 70s women wore hip huggers with the gold standard being hip bones showing. There was no social media but there were magazines and TV. Look at old pictures of Cher. We can’t forget Karen Carpenter who died of anorexia (actually, it was really taking ipacec to throw up and which affected her heart). There were others, although the media was less intrusive back then.

The 1920s female ideal had a perfectly straight, thin figure with no hips or breasts but prominent collarbones considered perfection. A hundred years before, women wore corsets for 16 inch waists.

Anorexia was around then too and very common.

Thin as a beauty standard is not new. It’s only the phrase “diet culture” that is new.

Many of the models of the past, Kate Moss and Twiggy, were naturally thin, and it wasn’t unhealthy for them to lose a few pounds. But there were still women who wanted to be like Twiggy and dangerously thin who weren’t meant to be and resorted to extremes.

The point is we cannot pretend the pressure on women to be what society considers beautiful at any one time as something new. It’s been around for hundreds of years. It’s easy to live in our 80 year lifespan bubble and think our problems are new, but they are not. Until the day comes when women aren’t judged for physical attributes this will always be a problem, and I don’t see that ever disappearing as it’s been around since civilization began.

However, most women don’t want to go to extremes, either with thinnness, with obesity, with bodybuilding or whatever, and they won’t be influenced by anybody. Thinking they will be dismissed their intellect.

Anybody blaming Tik Tok today, or Cosmo in the 70s is just stupid, or trying to get a payday. .

2000's thin in the modelling industry was way worse than Twiggy times. I used to watch a channel called fashion television in 2008 and you wouldn't believe the emaciation that came down the runway. It was unfathomable.

Hardcore Anorexia was normalized in the modelling industry and in Hollywood in the 2000's. These were not slim women, these were extremely anorexia women.

I think I posted that Kate Bosworth 2000's photo back in this thread so it was well present in Hollywood not just in modelling.

 

[autoerotic bus accident]

I wrote a whole thing about eating disorders and then deleted it because a lot of it was pointless medsperge that didn't relate to Eugenia. The relevant bit was, and I'll try to keep this short:

We can sit here and critically compare pro-ana content to HAES propaganda in terms of potential harm to society all day, but at the end of that day anorexia remains the only one of the two where obsessive social media use is currently understood to be a ubiquitous and potentially causal factor in the clinical presentation of the disease. "Thinspiration" is a thing for basically every anorexia patient, but for fats it's the opposite. HAES content hasn't been shown in research to cause measurable harm (yet), and some emerging research actually shows that watching a fat influencer - particularly watching one promote unhealthy food - can lead to a preference for healthier food in the viewer. (If you visit Anna O'Brien's thread, take note of how many people use Tubbo as a diet aid or encouragement not to go to Starbucks.)

Anyway, the known link between anorexia and social media is why it's easy to sue and attempt deplatforming for skellies, not so easy to say "that online deathfat gave me diabetes, please give me five million dollars and take that off the god damn internet."

(I'm not endorsing deplatforming, just trying to help explain why these efforts are lopsided.)