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Chuck Gruden said:
The closest I can think of is the Varg/AFA types. Good if you consider hypocrites/larpshits as "Retvrn to Evropa" type shit.
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The neo pagan bullshit is insufferable. While Christianity originated in the near east, and is still widely represented though out the ancient world (in Libya we had a healthy number of Coptic Catholics before, well…you know), it’s still an overwhelmingly European religion. So much of European life and culture has been shaped by it for the last 2000+ years until the point where it’s nearly inseparable. There is no lasting pagan cultural consciousness that goes beyond dancing around a maypole, it’s all literally a LARP to claim that there is. There are no Wickerman cults or Midsomar Vikings doing blood eagles or whatever, just some lardasses waddling through the forests whooping and hollering about a heritage that stopped existing thousands of years ago. The church burners like Varg are the worst, as not only do they fancy their little play pretend as a super serious religion, but they actively destroy their own cultural heritage. Pathetic is the only word to describe someone who burns a thousand year old part of their nation’s history.
 
Adamska said:
Wow... that's a pretty shit reason to scream "DERE NO GOD" at Christians. Laugh at the retard for losing his faith due to throwing an entitled tantrum over his parents not buying the kid another goddamn toy. DarkSydePhil tier level right there.
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I was going to say if you're mad at God for not answering your Santa Claus prayers...take a step back. I hate to tell you but if God didn't answer the prayers of a child dying from brain cancer he's not going to get you that new job or action figure.

One attitude towards prayer I've always liked is that it teaches you to accept and cooperate with God's will rather than give you anything in particular. Overall my attitude is that God gives us the tools and strength we need (reason, intelligence, emotions, ability) to identify and right wrongs in this world and fight evil.

There is no karma or miracle that will save the day, it is up to us.
 
Flaming Insignias said:
I thought 2C was about false oaths and badmouthing God?
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It might be partially true, at least from some of the commentary I've read on it. But I'm sure she'll take it to mean something heretical or far-left-leaning instead.

Paul says in Romans 17-24 that Jews who profess to be holy in the Law but then commit sins and evil acts are blaspheming God by claiming to belong to him when they're showing a bad example to Gentiles. He pretty much says that their vain use of God's name while doing evil turns people away from true religion, thus it's blasphemy.

In his epistle to Titus he says (of blasphemers) "They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good."

If you're gonna take those as referring to the prohibition on taking God's name in vain (which as far as I'm aware is where people get that take on it) then it's a huge indictment of liberalizers and worldly Christians who want to preach things that are condemned in the Bible (and hypocrites who do what they're commanded not to).

On the other side Christ says in Matthew not to swear trivial oaths, since that violates the commandment. So even jokingly saying "I swear to God I'll..." is making light of God by swearing for something trivial. So she's half right half wrong.
 
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Shaka Brah said:
It might be partially true, at least from some of the commentary I've read on it. But I'm sure she'll take it to mean something heretical or far-left-leaning instead.

Paul says in Romans 17-24 that Jews who profess to be holy in the Law but then commit sins and evil acts are blaspheming God by claiming to belong to him when they're showing a bad example to Gentiles. He pretty much says that their vain use of God's name while doing evil turns people away from true religion, thus it's blasphemy.

In his epistle to Titus he says (of blasphemers) "They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good."

If you're gonna take those as referring to the prohibition on taking God's name in vain (which as far as I'm aware is where people get that take on it) then it's a huge indictment of liberalizers and worldly Christians who want to preach things that are condemned in the Bible (and hypocrites who do what they're commanded not to).

On the other side Christ says in Matthew not to swear trivial oaths, since that violates the commandment. So even jokingly saying "I swear to God I'll..." is making light of God by swearing for something trivial. So she's half right half wrong.
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The big thing is that this line clearly bitching about Christian morality being one major reason for objecting to abortion, so we should just throw this out and say “hoes mad.”
 
Adamska said:
Pretty retarded since Nimoy was a practicing and reasonably devoted Jew, and Trek as a show also actively seeks tolerance no matter the beliefs.

But what the fuck would they know.
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Also, the fact they're quoting a fictional character played by Nimoy to try and prove their point says it all right there.

Vic Mignogna is a devout practicing Christian but his most famous roles as a voice actor are a euphoric atheist manlet amputee named Ed and a very effeminate bisexual gigolo.

For fuck's sake, Leonard Nimoy wrote an autobiography titled "I Am Not Spock"

Granted, he followed it up with sequel autobiographies titled "I Am Spock" and "I Am Also Scotty", but that was because the producers of Star Trek showed up to his house with a dump truck full of money and he's not made of stone!
 
Dr.Troonenstein said:
Say, do you guys think if the founding fathers could have foreseen atheists/LaVeyan satanists (ab)using the first amendment to browbeat Christians and cults like Scientology also abusing religious freedom laws, they would have written those laws differently to ensure they couldn’t? Hell, do ya think if they could have foreseen a lot of modern degenerate shit that arose from or was given a helping hand by secularization, they would have just instead made Christianity the state religion?
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No because the founding fathers had no problem with making laws against blaspheming our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
I don't know why everyone keeps needing to explain this but America is not meant to be a secular country secularism is an invention of the French Revolution which was funded and backed by rosicrucian satanists
The Classical liberalism of the founders is based in Christian morality
After the Revolutionary War one of the most referenced books in treatises on history and philosophy with the New Testament and the Old Testament

FILTH Tourist said:
I wish they just acted like a Jack Chick strawman. I don't think even Chick saw shit like drag queen story time and adolescent transitions coming.
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Actually this one of his comics where that exact thing happens about homosexuality


The religious right was right about most things
 
Elbow Greased Strength said:
I was going to say if you're mad at God for not answering your Santa Claus prayers...take a step back. I hate to tell you but if God didn't answer the prayers of a child dying from brain cancer he's not going to get you that new job or action figure.

One attitude towards prayer I've always liked is that it teaches you to accept and cooperate with God's will rather than give you anything in particular. Overall my attitude is that God gives us the tools and strength we need (reason, intelligence, emotions, ability) to identify and right wrongs in this world and fight evil.

There is no karma or miracle that will save the day, it is up to us.
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Miracle may yet come, but the thing is God is still God when you are blessed & even in your suffering.

A lot of people's outlook towards God is, "God is... if He......" Which is a total nonsense if we understand that he is the supreme ruler above all. Even in the bible he once mentioned that if he wanted to consume an animal or anything else he doesn't need our permission because everything is his. Our denial doesn't change a thing.

If a King, theoretically a similar being as us is still king regardless we are rich or poor, then how much more for a being that is totally above us.
 
eternal dog mongler said:
You have any more resources on this? I love crazy conspiracies.
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Not the poster you were addressing, but by strange coincidence, I happen to be reading some books that touch on this. Check out "Children of Lucifer The Origins of Modern Religious Satanism" by Ruben van Luijk, and "Romantic Satanism: Myth and the Historical Moment in Blake, Shelley and Byron" by Mark P. Peter Schock. Fair warning, the latter one is dry and boring by even my standards, and I'm A. a sperg, and B. have a giant boner for transgressive 18th century Romantic poets. The first one is much more readable, and more directly on topic. Both can be... found... in libs that gen.

The bottom line if you don't want to read all that is that the conspiracy of proto-Commie Satanist witches being behind the French Revolution was part of a long, long history of accusing your opponents of being secret Satanic occultists. 2000 years ago, the Romans had similar conspiracies about the nascent Christians, and afterwards, different Christian denominations all accused their religious rivals of being devil cultists. The secular authorities recognized a useful smear when they saw one, and promptly started using it themselves against the various anti-monarchical political movements that started developing towards the end of the Renaissance.

EDIT -- Corrected author name. Don't know why some catalogue listings have Schock's name wrong.
 
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SCSI said:
The bottom line if you don't want to read all that is that the conspiracy of proto-Commie Satanist witches being behind the French Revolution was part of a long, long history of accusing your opponents of being secret Satanic occultists. 2000 years ago, the Romans had similar conspiracies about the nascent Christians, and afterwards, different Christian denominations all accused their religious rivals of being devil cultists. The secular authorities recognized a useful smear when they saw one, and promptly started using it themselves against the various anti-monarchical political movements that started developing towards the end of the Renaissance.
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For the classic original of the genre that specifically blames Freemasons (but not Rosicrucians specifically) of being behind the French Revolution (as well as everything else bad), check John Robison's 1797 conspiracy masterpiece Proofs of a Conspiracy.

This is the source of most of the subsequent Bavarian Illuminati theorizing.
 
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Aren't these technically covered by Copyright anyway since it's kind of parodying? My legalese isn't the sharpest so correct me if I'm wrong with this.

Colonel Gaddafi said:
The neo pagan bullshit is insufferable. While Christianity originated in the near east, and is still widely represented though out the ancient world (in Libya we had a healthy number of Coptic Catholics before, well…you know), it’s still an overwhelmingly European religion. So much of European life and culture has been shaped by it for the last 2000+ years until the point where it’s nearly inseparable. There is no lasting pagan cultural consciousness that goes beyond dancing around a maypole, it’s all literally a LARP to claim that there is. There are no Wickerman cults or Midsomar Vikings doing blood eagles or whatever, just some lardasses waddling through the forests whooping and hollering about a heritage that stopped existing thousands of years ago. The church burners like Varg are the worst, as not only do they fancy their little play pretend as a super serious religion, but they actively destroy their own cultural heritage. Pathetic is the only word to describe someone who burns a thousand year old part of their nation’s history.
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Funnily enough, most of the Nordic neopagan practices and "theology" comes from the Poetic Edda, a 13th century collection of poems originating in Iceland by Christian monks, although the poems themselves are anonymous in their origin. Essentially the neopagan beliefs come from an anonymous source, written down by people who don't have the best opinion of Nordic paganism, and was written well after Christianity took a hold on Nordic society. Essentially the modern Nordic Pagans are around thanks to Christians who'd bothered to write about them.

Wormy said:
So how would you effectively enforce the following of Christianity? What would the legal penalty for not being Saved be?
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I believe he's mistaking a quote from one of the Founding Fathers that went along the lines of how America should have a secular government with a moral people.
 
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