Euphoric atheists

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I’m just going to say it now: I have never met a rational anti-theist.

Not. One.
For most of them their lack of belief in God comes from an emotional viewpoint, e.g. "If God real why bad thing happen?". Typically it doesn't involve rational discourse or actual logical thought processes, but rather a certain experience that turns them away from faith. Many an incompetent Sunday school teacher has made someone into an atheist simply due to not being able to provide an on the spot satisfying answer to a question.
 
For most of them their lack of belief in God comes from an emotional viewpoint, e.g. "If God real why bad thing happen?". Typically it doesn't involve rational discourse or actual logical thought processes, but rather a certain experience that turns them away from faith. Many an incompetent Sunday school teacher has made someone into an atheist simply due to not being able to provide an on the spot satisfying answer to a question.
The Problem of Evil really is one of the biggest factors in modern atheism, I think because it caters to the current cultural zeitgeist and its obsession with kindness and social justice.
 
Drunk ramblings of a euphoric nigger.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=i1qyvoC9lkA

This reminds me of an earlier post I saw that was talking about how fedora-tipping euphoric atheism is becoming en vogue in the black community long after it became a punchline among Whites for the past decade at least.

Honestly, it does kind of make sense. I've noticed that a lot of black Zoomers are now trying to do the mall goth and emo styles as well, to the point that "Emo Rap" is now a genre. So, it would make sense that they'd pick up on yet another trend of 2000's suburban White culture that's now seen as cringe-worthy.

Christopher Hitchens is probably the only one I can respect, although he did not believe that religion should be suppressed and targeted, rather, that it was just harmful.
To some degree you could argue that believing stuff in God without evidence could lead to one believing in other stuff without evidence, but thats also literally just an inescapable part of the human condition. Hitchens himself still believed in Iraqi War WMDs.

Honestly, I blame Hitchens more than anyone else for the rise of the smug fedora-wearing euphoric atheist midwit.
 
For most of them their lack of belief in God comes from an emotional viewpoint, e.g. "If God real why bad thing happen?". Typically it doesn't involve rational discourse or actual logical thought processes, but rather a certain experience that turns them away from faith. Many an incompetent Sunday school teacher has made someone into an atheist simply due to not being able to provide an on the spot satisfying answer to a question.
In many cases it's partially due to having a crummy upbringing, having controlling evangelical parents, and so go atheist as an attempt to rebel or regain some control over their identity. It's the typical teen reaction, parents want you to be X so the only way to take control of your life is to be not-X.

Nobody ever quit christianity because a Sunday school teacher failed to answer a question, but because they already hated their teacher. Likewise, if people still love and/or respect their family or christian peers, they don't quit the church simply out of a desire to not hurt the people they care about. If they don't care about offending them, it becomes an easy decision. It rarely has to do with logic, but like most things "logic" is a post-hoc rationalization for an emotion-driven decision
 
Christopher Hitchens is probably the only one I can respect, although he did not believe that religion should be suppressed and targeted, rather, that it was just harmful.
I have never really been an anti-theist even when I was a fairly euphoric atheist, although I thought organized religion was on balance more harmful than good. However, after having looked more closely at what happens in the absence of religion, I think the good outweighs the harm. People without some foundational beliefs gravitate to charismatic psychopaths instead and you end up with cults, secular and otherwise, with the expressly atheist ones (like Communism) being among the worst things ever invented by humanity.

Without the established religions, others would swoop into the vacuum. We already have enough Jonestowns and Heaven's Gates, and even the slightly less harmful ones like the Moonies and Scientology are atrociously awful. You're way better off being even a (non snackbar) Muslim than into any of that shit.
 
I have never really been an anti-theist even when I was a fairly euphoric atheist, although I thought organized religion was on balance more harmful than good. However, after having looked more closely at what happens in the absence of religion, I think the good outweighs the harm. People without some foundational beliefs gravitate to charismatic psychopaths instead and you end up with cults, secular and otherwise, with the expressly atheist ones (like Communism) being among the worst things ever invented by humanity.

Without the established religions, others would swoop into the vacuum. We already have enough Jonestowns and Heaven's Gates, and even the slightly less harmful ones like the Moonies and Scientology are atrociously awful. You're way better off being even a (non snackbar) Muslim than into any of that shit.
Temperance is a virtue for a reason, and that applies to evangelism as well as alcohol and food.
 
more sam harris tds


between this dude and matt dillahunty essentially arguing that mtf trannies have female souls it has been a wild ride for the euphoric crowd
 
The Problem of Evil really is one of the biggest factors in modern atheism, I think because it caters to the current cultural zeitgeist and its obsession with kindness and social justice.
People have been wrestling with this forever dude, it's not just those damn SJWs in current year

There have been interesting arguments in both directions. Harder is the Problem of the Problem of Evil, which is basically why would a omniscient benevolent God create this universe knowing suffering would exist within it. This one's trickier.
 
Harder is the Problem of the Problem of Evil, which is basically why would a omniscient benevolent God create this universe knowing suffering would exist within it. This one's trickier.
Would you be interested in:

A story with no villains, threats or danger?

A video game with no hazards or enemies?

A test you could never fail?
 
People have been wrestling with this forever dude, it's not just those damn SJWs in current year

There have been interesting arguments in both directions. Harder is the Problem of the Problem of Evil, which is basically why would a omniscient benevolent God create this universe knowing suffering would exist within it. This one's trickier.
It was important to academics and philosophers, but it wasn't such a big part of the popular mindset then as it is now. The fact that it's become a rallying-cry for atheists in Current Year is an anomaly, since good refutations of it have existed for close to 1000 years at this point.
 
Christopher Hitchens is probably the only one I can respect, although he did not believe that religion should be suppressed and targeted, rather, that it was just harmful.
To some degree you could argue that believing stuff in God without evidence could lead to one believing in other stuff without evidence, but thats also literally just an inescapable part of the human condition. Hitchens himself still believed in Iraqi War WMDs.
Thing is, Hitchens arguments are based on him assuming "his own words" are truth.

One of the most annoying thing euphorics like to bring out is the "Hitchens's razor", where he says, "anything that can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".

Euphorics treat it like gospel, and so does Hitchens, and at a glance it sounds reasonable. But hol' up a minute, if you then ask them "so where is the evidence for this assertion?"...... Then boom, they go wild and make whataboutism screech etc after realising they have 0 evidence. Which means based on their own rules, they failed to provide any evidence for that assertion, and thus dismissed themselves. Pretty stupid eh?

And once you realize this, you can look back and see that all Hitchens' arguments is made based on him making his own assumptions as truth, but when pressed for evidence, there is none except his own words, which is something they love to call...."circular argument".

So when you see Hitchens believe all that bullshit WMD .... that's because he is also full of bs.

People have been wrestling with this forever dude, it's not just those damn SJWs in current year

There have been interesting arguments in both directions. Harder is the Problem of the Problem of Evil, which is basically why would a omniscient benevolent God create this universe knowing suffering would exist within it. This one's trickier.
Actually, not true, people have solved it, but it's not really well spread or.... to say it bluntly.... "people actually don't give shit".... they asked, but they never bothered to really search for the answer. They asked, but if the answer doesn't come within 5 mins or served to them, people tend to assume there is no answer.

Sorry if i sound like a smug ass euphoric, that's only because i lack the skill to properly convey it politely.

But the main fundamental issue to learn is first, "What is evil" & "Is moral standard objective or subjective?” (hint: it's objective)

Can't teach it over a forum post, but if you really like to understand look towards Christian Apologetics, where they try to seek these questions through logic.

In fact I can refer you to the specific book I learnt from "belief - by Francis S. Collins", which is a collection of many apologetics answering many of these eternal questions that people say there's no answer for, especially the moral dillema one.

Some are even more interesting, like "why are so many Christians jerks/assholes?" (my own words) But i leave it up to you learn about it, and i hope you do.
 
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Some are even more interesting, like "why are so many Christians jerks/assholes?" (my own words) But i leave it up to you learn about it, and i hope you do.
Well this ones an easy one, actually. It's them getting high on their own supply and not holding themselves up to the standards set. Which happens to the best of us, but if you're constantly giving in to the savior or superiority complex people aren't going to like you.

Of course, I don't think Christians are any worse than any other group of people at the end of the day. Every group has their assholes.
 
Well this ones an easy one, actually. It's them getting high on their own supply and not holding themselves up to the standards set. Which happens to the best of us, but if you're constantly giving in to the savior or superiority complex people aren't going to like you.

Of course, I don't think Christians are any worse than any other group of people at the end of the day. Every group has their assholes.
Partly, but also due to our own false viewpoints on Christians too.

We tend to view Christians as the "good guys", role model etc, but most forget that Christians are essentially "sinners" who realize their sins and decided to repent, and the church is like the "hospital" where they seek treatment.

If you go to a hospital, you don't go and say "why are there so many sick people here ?". So in similar analogy, you are stepping into a place where the sinners congregate, then it's also no wonder you will meet more dickheads easily.

You don't come to Christ if you are already perfect.
 
To some degree you could argue that believing stuff in God without evidence
For me, the issue is that you have to believe one of two things:
  • An extradimensional entity or entities (God) created the universe
  • The universe created itself via time travel
Both of these are equally magical concepts and neither jibes whatsoever with our understanding of the laws of the universe. Yet believing the second one is seen as the Scientific and Rational stance. It makes no sense and it's extremely hypocritical.

There is a theoretical third stance, which is "I don't know how the universe came to be and I probably never will", but good luck finding a talking head willing to admit it. Scientists™ believe the big bang theory, thus if you want to appear smart, you have to go along with it.

If capital A Atheists could just admit that there are things beyond their understanding I'd have no problem with them, but they insist that not only do they know there is no God, but that they know everything else too.
 
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