European Union Hate Thread - Discuss why EU is shit (or not)

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I believe that we have europoors hating the EU (Me included). Some of the shit I saw them passing are batshit crazy. The recent one where a commissioner says that you could sniff encrypted messages. The attempt to regulate whatever international service, especially regulating "Muh hate speech", the infamous "No new combustion engines by 2035", or the collective ban on RTNews and Sputnik. We also know that EU loves journos especially NYT/WaPo type of journos. As soon as twitter was bought by Elon Musk, you could see the double standards:
So Eurobros (or Britbongs, whatever), rant away :)

This thread is to shit on the EU and its state members, don't shit it by retarded comparisons. thx.
 
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Does anyone actually like the EU from a political standpoint? I've only ever heard pro-EU arguments be made based on the single market and Schengen.
 
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Moja Zemlja said:
Does anyone actually like the EU from a political standpoint? I've only ever heard pro-EU arguments be made based on the single market and Schengen.
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That's because lack of tariffs and ease of movement are the only good things EU has, and that is not by necessity exclusive to it.
 
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The EU functions as an entity that puts many of the normal functions of government beyond the reach of democracy. Practically speaking, it accountable to almost no one and cannot be controlled by the voters within the European Union. It does what it wants.
Economically, the EU makes no sense whatsoever. Its a union of countries with vastly different economies containing massive disparities and economies requiring very different economic policies. But the economic policy of the union is almost entirely driven by the interests of the German economy.
While the EU might work if it contained just its richest members, the majority of countries currently in the EU have no business being in the EU and never really met the standards set for the entering the EU and Euro in the first place.
When, during BREXIT, the supporters of the EU had to defend why it was necessary - the main argument was economic. As good as admitting that the only benefit of being inside the EU was being able to avoid the trade barriers that the EU had put around itself.
Law and EU courts are completely arbitrary. Decisions are inevitably political and represent no real system of law.
 
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  • Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria all have literal ultranationalist, pre-WW2 irredentist parties polling in the double digits.
  • PiS holding up strong in Poland, KON now polling in the double digits
  • PSOE is on its way out in Spain, PP and VOX is looking like a likely coalition
  • Macron's party is getting destroyed in the polls, approval rating is in the gutter, Le Pen would be expected to come first if an election would be held tomorrow
  • Meloni's approval rating is pretty good and her party is by far the most popular in Italy
  • FPO is polling first place in Austria
  • BBB is polling first place in the Netherlands
  • Sweden and Finland recently elected centre-right parties which may not be anything to celebrate, but they're open to collaborating with nationalist parties at least, and Norway is predicted to do the same. That's the best you will get from Scandinavia unfortunately.
  • The Czech Republic's parliament has 4 out of 200 seats belonging to a left of centre party, and that's the Pirates. The socialists and socdems are dead.
Is shit about to get interesting?
 
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Useful_Mistake said:
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Schengen itself isn't an EU only thing, Switzerland and Norway are both part of it without being part of the EU.

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I've just been to Ireland and they will literally claw your eyes out on the spot if you badmouth the EU.
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There are still plenty of rabid EU supporters in Britain and we voted to leave seven years ago.
 
The EU is basically Europe trying to emulate the USA without realising why the USA works. There is no shared culture or language between the countries, they are basically in it because they'll get fucked economically if they refuse to join (which will happen eventually because the politicians will keep questioning the populace until they relent). For the common man the only reason to join the EU is convenience in traveling and becoming a literal rootless cosmopolitan, both are things only bughivers will want.

I don't know how much power the EU actually has in directly enforcing politics (rather than indirectly through economic means), usually I hear of it trying to impotently reign in the border countries without success. It is definitely a way to bypass democracy since you'd sooner find an American who knows his senator than a euro knowing his EU representatives.
 
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Moja Zemlja said:
Does anyone actually like the EU from a political standpoint?
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Of course, I.

Most for the part of integrating a former shit-tier continent without blood. Of course I see a lot that can be resolved in better way. For example, eurozone should not include Iberian countries and many of the southern nations and colonial francs should not be pegged to it.

Most of rambling of 'they wanna took our diesel!' is based on press blahblah, not the actual regulations or such. EU is also the boogeyman for countries when they must pass a shitty legislation. If you didn't like how something from european law is introduced, talk with your country (who is introducing it), not the EU (which ordered the country to do that). Most shit isn't produced in Brussel, but in Berlin/Rome/whateversville in the phase of enforcing EU law.

Moja Zemlja said:
Switzerland and Norway are both part of it without being part of the EU.
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And both of them pay for this in cash:

https://eeagrants.org/ here you go, they are in so-called EEA, which is not only a EU bitch but also it is a tool to transfer cash from Norway, Switzerland and few smaller countries to proper EU. EEA countires are also forced to introduce some parts of EU legislation without having even a option to have influence on them.

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-53724381 also a must-read. tl;dr: custom clearance take place when you travel from Glasgow (UK) to Belfast (UK), not when you travel from Belfast (UK) to Dublin (EU). When you leave EU, but parts of EU stays in your ass.
 
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  • Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria all have literal ultranationalist, pre-WW2 irredentist parties polling in the double digits.
  • PiS holding up strong in Poland, KON now polling in the double digits
  • PSOE is on its way out in Spain, PP and VOX is looking like a likely coalition
  • Macron's party is getting destroyed in the polls, approval rating is in the gutter, Le Pen would be expected to come first if an election would be held tomorrow
  • Meloni's approval rating is pretty good and her party is by far the most popular in Italy
  • FPO is polling first place in Austria
  • BBB is polling first place in the Netherlands
  • Sweden and Finland recently elected centre-right parties which may not be anything to celebrate, but they're open to collaborating with nationalist parties at least, and Norway is predicted to do the same. That's the best you will get from Scandinavia unfortunately.
  • The Czech Republic's parliament has 4 out of 200 seats belonging to a left of centre party, and that's the Pirates. The socialists and socdems are dead.
Is this wishful thinking, should we be optimistic?
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PiS not anti-EU per se. They are aware of EU's fuck-ups and unfair treatment of conservative states, but they are also aware Russia is our big bully neigbour and is a much greater threat than EU could ever be. Nobody treats Konfederacja seriously, not even their own members.
 
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PiS not anti-EU per se.
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In EU they are no serious anti-EU movements. Not big at least.

Every 'anti-EU' is just seething about how much money he should get from EU. This is main thing that is crippling EU - everyfuckinbody is thinking that EU is just a demented auntie with cash.

Also most of political forces is sure that the only option for Europe is some form of integration. If it will be called EU or othervise things will not change a lot.
 
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