Everything is about to get more expensive. It's a crucial next step for the US economic recovery. - But they told us printing money won't cause inflation?



Everything is about to get more expensive. It's a crucial next step for the US economic recovery.​


  • The US economy is headed for a rebound, but it'll make things more expensive for Americans.
  • Experts say the economy won't overheat, but more demand for things like homes and gas will mean higher prices.
  • This is good; inflation like this is a sign of a return to normal and a healthy economic recovery.
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Experts are growing increasingly hopeful the US economy will rebound in 2021, but there's a price to pay for that. The price of most things, actually.

A vaccine rollout, a $1.9 trillion stimulus package, and the lift in spending from December's smaller stimulus paint a promising picture of a roaring, reopened America with lively restaurants, indoor dancing, and crowded stadiums. The economy is set for "stellar" growth as the pandemic subsides, a Bank of America note stated Monday, while boosting its 2021 GDP growth estimate to 6.5% from 6%.

It could all be the biggest boomtime in the US economy in a generation — but not without a cost.

While history indicates that the US likely won't see an overheated economy after Biden's massive stimulus package launches, Wall Street is predicting that certain goods and services might become more expensive.

JPMorgan's David Kelly wrote in a recent bank note that high demand could "boost prices" across a range of services as the pandemic recedes over the summer, "maintaining inflation at or above" the Federal Reserve's 2% target. And Mark Haefele, the chief investment officer of global wealth management at UBS, wrote on Tuesday that while fears about persistent rise in inflation are likely "overdone," his bank is predicting that inflation may spike in the short-term.

"If pent-up demand emerges, prices could even rise above their pre-pandemic levels," Brian Rose, senior economist at UBS Global Wealth Management, told Insider.

This may not be friendly news for Americans' wallets, but higher prices and a demand for commodities without overheating is a sign of a healthier economy and a crucial next step toward the US' economic recovery.

Rising Treasury yields — a famous barometer for future inflation — were in evidence this week, and Wall Street economists see signs that everyday essentials like houses, gas, and healthcare are about to get more expensive.

Stronger inflation? Treasurys say so

The Treasury market spoke up this past week. The 10-year yield, after steadily climbing through February, leaped as high as 1.614% on Thursday. The note now trades with its highest yield in more than a year, and President Joe Biden's stimulus proposal is driving the economic optimism largely reponsible for this bond-market movement.

This matters because Treasury yields, especially in the 10-year, are an indicator of what investors think about the likelihood of inflation. It also matters because it could become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Investors have largely priced in the $1.9 trillion in relief set to be approved by Democrats in the next few weeks. Supporters argue a large-scale deal is needed to bring the economy back to its past strength. Republicans have voiced concerns that the package will overfill the hole in the economy and spark rampant price growth.

Markets, at least for now, are siding with the Democrats. Expectations for stronger inflation lifted yields as investors demanded higher returns to offset price growth. The continued rotation to cyclical assets — those most likely to outperform during a rebound — saw cash rotate from defensive investments and to riskier plays.

But rising yields have consequences. Since Treasurys serve as a benchmark for the broader credit market, higher yields signal regular payments on consumer loans will soon swing higher.

Rates on car loans, for example, closely track the 5-year yield, Kathy Bostjancic, head US financial market economist at Oxford Economists, told Insider. Those notes saw outsize selling through the week as investors bet on a sharp but temporary rise in inflation.

Higher yields can be the canary in the coal mine for commodity prices. Treasurys reveal how investors expect the economy to perform in the future, and those expectations can influence current spending activity. Since commodity markets focus so much on contracts for future sales and purchases, yields influence those forward price curves.

"Heating oil and natural gas could perhaps be a problem," Bostjancic said.

To be sure, yields are far from flashing warning signs of rampant inflation. Real yields, which subtract inflation from bonds' nominal yields, are still negative across all maturities. Though the 10-year yield sits near one-year highs, negative real yields suggest investors aren't yet fearful of uncontrollable price growth.

In fact, real yields began turning negative in 2019, well before the pandemic roiled the US economy. The recent uptick in yields is a healthy development, but the pace risks shocking the financial system at a critical turning point, Bostjancic said.

"The bottom line is the 10-year and the yield curve could have a ways to run, and that's not necessarily negative," she said. "But if it happens too rapidly, then it can be destabilizing. It could choke off this nascent recovery before it gets going."

Homes, gas, and healthcare

So, what does this all mean for Americans' wallets?

Well, the answer largely depends on what Americans want to spend money on the most. A UBS note this week predicted that largely looks like entertainment, personal services, and education — all key drivers in the experience economy.

"The biggest price increases are likely to be seen as a rebound to normal levels in those services that have been hit hardest [by the] pandemic," Rose said, citing airfare and hotel stays as examples.

Gas, too, is going to get expensive. A recent Jefferies note revealed the energy sector has already seen a 23.6% increase in CPI, a bigger uptick than any other industry, as cars increased in popularity during the pandemic. Oil prices increased from $40 per barrel last summer to nearly $60 per barrel at present and will likely stay that way through 2021, per the JPMorgan note.

A pandemic, naturally, has also driven health spending up. The healthcare sector has seen a 14.7% increase in CPI, per Jefferies, signaling that Americans will have to pay even more for health care than they already are.

Then, there's housing. The market has been booming, but buying a house has become more expensive. Interest rates hit a historic low in 2020, but the higher treasury yields signal that may be about to change. As of Thursday, mortgage rates climbed back to their highest level since August.

Mortgage lenders will hike up rates for borrowers to compensate for higher yields as they trade mortgage-backed securities on the bond market. "The market is looking out two or three years and thinking that rates are going to rise," Todd Johnson, a division manager in Wells Fargo's mortgage unit, told The Financial Times.

More expensive, but in a good way​

Since price increases will be driven by stronger demand, Rose said, it's an "encouraging sign that the impact of the pandemic is waning and life is returning to normal."

The Treasury market's latest moves suggest the Democrats' stimulus package will prompt a sharp but temporary rise in price growth. Where inflation settles in the long term depends on how well the labor market heals, Seema Shah, chief strategist at Principal Global Investors, told Insider.

The Fed has indicated it won't raise rates until it sees progress toward full employment. Once inflation runs hot for a period and unemployment declines, the central bank will move toward tamping down on inflation with higher interest rates.

Judging by the Treasury market, nobody expects the US to face runaway price increases, Shah said.

"The market is saying growth is going to be higher, therefore labor-market slack is going to disappear a lot quicker than people were anticipating," she said. "And therefore the Fed will actually hike earlier than expected, and by hiking earlier than expected, we're not going to see inflation take off."
 
is this really how they're going to approach this looming economic crisis caused by us printing whole percents of our national debt on multiple occasions all at once

by phrasing it as a "transitional period"

i'm mcfucking done

Yeah, inflation is a great sign we're heading in the right direction! Don't forget-- we have two weeks to slow the spread! Don't forget to thank your nurses and NPs as they organize a coordinated default dance during their nightshift, and be grateful when your governor writes an executive order allowing him to have sex with your wife and use local law enforcement to force you to watch.
Lol, everything that went down in the USSR was supposed to be a "transitional period" as well.

"Millions are suffering famines, starvation, hardship etc...but this is not communism, comrade! We must suffer so that we can secure the communist utopia for our children!"
 
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Why did the richest blacks commit more violent crime than poorest whites?
I'd rather we not talk memes with dubious (i.e. for the life of me, after Jontron mentioned these supposed stats I couldn't find them in any official publication) statistics, especially when crime is a product of several factors congealing, cascading or feeding into a "bad scene" as opposed to just "wealth" and our current info gathering methods for wealth can't even account for the different ways that wealth is gathered and how that ends up looking in the stats.

The African-American community is indeed encumbered by crime, and-- not accounting for actual crime distribution across the country-- is well-overrepresented in violent crime statistics. Bullshit like this isn't an argument-- literally, it poses a question that can be answered in perhaps more than 25 different possible ways (e.g. is there any reason to believe that there doesn't exist a slightly less wealthy black neighborhood with a drastically lower crime rate than either of the examples given here?), but the user of the meme really wants that you come to the conclusion that it's in the nature of black people to be more violent.

It's on the complete opposite end of the "I'm depraved because I'm deprived" vision that leftist activists have that allow them to sign off on expensive sums in what amounts to alms to these communities instead of knuckling down and examining the "bad scene", because they'll probably figure out that a significant amount of their vision is substantially responsible for what they supposedly want to fix. Either way, it obscures real issues in favor of easy answers and fantastical solutions.
 
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I'm not sure what this rant is supposed to be directed at. While I'm personally not a landlord I absolutely understand landlords that can't can't evict their people while the BANKS keep up the MORTRAGE PAYMENTS and the government keeps up the PROPERTY TAX, while they SUSPEND EVICTING TENANTS. All these contained are to manipulate the markests

The moratorium on evicting tenacts is absolutely the most damaging policy there is.
I'm saying don't rent. If you must rent, do so far outside the city where you're not getting gouged, and only do it until you can afford not to. Land ownership is, and always has been, something to aspire to.

I'm not anti landlord, though I do think there need to be massive, nigh insurmountable restrictions on foreign interests buying American property. Half the residential property in the biggest cities is owned by foreign investors, and all that money is being siphoned out of the country. Every $3000 check you write to pay for your piece of shit one bedroom apartment is $3000 permanently removed from the domestic economy.

The issue isn't landlords, it's a combination of globalism, consumerism, and nobody giving a shit about anything more than ten minutes into the future.
 
The issue isn't landlords, it's a combination of globalism, consumerism, and nobody giving a shit about anything more than ten minutes into the future.
It's kind of mortifying how a certain kind of time preference has been actively fostered and encouraged in populations. Reminds me of all the fucking gangbangers I'd see with Smile Now Cry Later tattoos.
 
Based in Japan so yen, been thinking about moving some of my paycheck from Uncle Sam defending freedom over here to yen since things back home are looking spicy.
Honestly, I’d probably drop the dollar. I suspect it’s going to inflate especially with articles like these. Not financial advice.TM I could be wrong, but I suspect the dollar is going to drop in value.
 
Not living in the US atm, but I have a decent chunk of change in dollars.

Should I cash that shit now to home currency before the crash?
Honestly, I’d probably drop the dollar. I suspect it’s going to inflate especially with articles like these. Not financial advice.TM I could be wrong, but I suspect the dollar is going to drop in value.
Not to sound like a downer, but I remember someone mentioning in another thread that it wouldn't really matter because if the dollar gets fucked every other economy and currency in the world goes to the toilet as well. I dunno, it may still not be a bad idea to convert, just thought I'd pass along what I heard. It sounds like a rock and a hard place scenario but I'm sure there could be some sort of creative solution somewhere.
 
Not to sound like a downer, but I remember someone mentioning in another thread that it wouldn't really matter because if the dollar gets fucked every other economy and currency in the world goes to the toilet as well. I dunno, it may still not be a bad idea to convert, just thought I'd pass along what I heard. It sounds like a rock and a hard place scenario but I'm sure there could be some sort of creative solution somewhere.
Learn orgami.
Fold your worthless dollars into an art master piece
Sell your art for some currency worth a damn
 
It's kind of mortifying how a certain kind of time preference has been actively fostered and encouraged in populations. Reminds me of all the fucking gangbangers I'd see with Smile Now Cry Later tattoos.
Life Fast, Die Young and Live In the Moment was the same bullshit I heard spread out in my teens. I hope the world learns the hard lesson of passing its management over to back scratching frat and sort girls.
 
I get grandma is really important, but I don't want all the shit that will happen if America implodes.
I think we could have kept grandma safe without indefinitely hogtying the national economy.

It would involve keeping specifically grandma, and maybe the people grandma lives with, at home. Heck, this would have also helped with freeing up space for grocery delivery, instead of everyone relying on it because Dr. Birx said that it wasn't the greatest idea to go to the grocery store for the next arbitrary period of time.
 
All I know is that a fucking piece of 4'x8' Chinesium sheet of OSB 7/16"board is $35 fucking bucks at Home Depot in my region. It was $23 last month and $17 before the election. A 2"x4" cheap ass board is $5.50. $3.49 before the election.

This is totally fucked. I don't care about the lip service. All I know is that I have seen Trump and then Biden completely fucked the buying power of the elderly and those who are trying to save BY ENFORCING PEOPLE TO PLAY THE MARKET so they can try to keep up with the hyper inflation we are already in. The current pricing on the stock market now is indictive to the depreciation of the US dollar. The people who are going to win are those people who have the money to invest... which is only 16% of the US population.

2.78% on CD's in February 2019. The best rate I found today for a 1 year CD is .75% You do the fucking math on the loss of buying power for the average person.

Nobody talks about food... the real cost of food in the US as people DO NOT COOK. I can afford going out to eat as this is a way for my disabled wife to associate with people. So it is an expense I'm willing to take.

Because of the Coof, I saved $18 grand from cooking at home from what I spent in 2019. Average is $50 per day for 2 people eating lunch and/or dinner.

2 tacos was 99 cents in December 2019. It is now @ $1.39 in my region. 40% increase in Cheap ass food. a Fucking Mc Double regularly costs $.267 now if there is no special sales going on.

It's an eye opener as how much it is costing to eat now, so I buy in bulk in meat, cheeses, and frozen products. The Savings I made was immediately invested into my holdings.

This is the horror that people ignore. You are spending your life, your savings, everything on something that is not tangible. I've seen this happen in 1987, then in 1999, then at 2006. I don't like what I'm seeing now.

The only people that will win are those who have the money to just keep up.
 
All I know is that a fucking piece of 4'x8' Chinesium sheet of OSB 7/16"board is $35 fucking bucks at Home Depot in my region. It was $23 last month and $17 before the election. A 2"x4" cheap ass board is $5.50. $3.49 before the election.

This is totally fucked. I don't care about the lip service. All I know is that I have seen Trump and then Biden completely fucked the buying power of the elderly and those who are trying to save BY ENFORCING PEOPLE TO PLAY THE MARKET so they can try to keep up with the hyper inflation we are already in. The current pricing on the stock market now is indictive to the depreciation of the US dollar. The people who are going to win are those people who have the money to invest... which is only 16% of the US population.

2.78% on CD's in February 2019. The best rate I found today for a 1 year CD is .75% You do the fucking math on the loss of buying power for the average person.

Nobody talks about food... the real cost of food in the US as people DO NOT COOK. I can afford going out to eat as this is a way for my disabled wife to associate with people. So it is an expense I'm willing to take.

Because of the Coof, I saved $18 grand from cooking at home from what I spent in 2019. Average is $50 per day for 2 people eating lunch and/or dinner.

2 tacos was 99 cents in December 2019. It is now @ $1.39 in my region. 40% increase in Cheap ass food. a Fucking Mc Double regularly costs $.267 now if there is no special sales going on.

It's an eye opener as how much it is costing to eat now, so I buy in bulk in meat, cheeses, and frozen products. The Savings I made was immediately invested into my holdings.

This is the horror that people ignore. You are spending your life, your savings, everything on something that is not tangible. I've seen this happen in 1987, then in 1999, then at 2006. I don't like what I'm seeing now.

The only people that will win are those who have the money to just keep up.
Yeah I was out for chores today. Heard people bitching about how their bills are twenty dollars or more.

Too many people sleep walking through life
 
>"This is good; inflation like this is a sign of a return to normal and a healthy economic recovery."

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Inflation and devaluation are not just bad, they are the single worst thing that can be done against the majority working class population of a country by the ruling elites. There's really no worse way to fuck over the working class than by implementing inflationary policies.

Anyone telling you the opposite has an used car to sell.
 
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